Legal question about homeopathic alcohol

Established products that took their lumps to get where they are.

I think that attempting to market a product called [anything] Bourbon with only a homeopathic dilution of alky would draw heavy attention from ATF and you’d have to battle for years, with maybe a 50-50 chance, to get them to approve your labeling. To start with, the homeos might mount arguments that the product could induce intoxication because their science works that way.

Closer to the point, I’m pretty sure even NA wines and beers have to conform to ATF (and possibly FDA) regulations.

But hey, major points for the notion. :smiley:

I would just call it Homeopathic Bourbon, without the word “elixir”. I like the label idea: Centum Cento Anguis Oleum(one hundred percent snake oil).

Followup: I think you’d have trouble getting “BASELESS BOURBON 100% Distilled Water” onto the shelves for labeling reasons, all trivialities of homeopathics aside.

A substance does not become homeopathic just through being diluted many times over. Dilution is not what makes something a homeopathic remedy. According to homeopathic theory, a substance is a homeopathic remedy for a disease if it causes the same sorts of symptoms as the disease does. Unsurprisingly, however, the early homeopathic practitioners found that giving people such a substance as a medicine generally made them worse. They therefore took to diluting the stuff until it did not make their patients worse any more (sometimes this meant until there was effectively none of the original substance left in it), and concluded that they had then found the remedy.

If you are going to claim that what you are selling is a homeopathic remedy, you need to be able say what it is a remedy for. I suppose you could argue that since whiskey causes the symptoms of drunkenness and hangovers, homeopathic, highly diluted, whiskey is a remedy for drunkenness and/or hangovers.

You may have discovered the first homeopathic remedy that will actually work!

Exactly! :smiley:
Side question concerning profitability-Using a 200c dilution, how many fifths of my homeopathic whiskey can I get from one fifth of the original rotgut?

According to ATF regulations, you may not call it Bourbon or Whiskey if it is bottled at less than 80 proof alcohol.

Perhaps you could sell it in paper sacks…

Are there any hard alcohol names that aren’t covered by that reg?

Probably not:

Ah! You aspire to be a ‘snake oil’ salesman.

That industry mostly ran the course about 100 years ago and could be ripe for a resurgence.

“Czarcasm’s Miracle Mystery Tonic”, “Brother Loves’s Elixir for What Ails You.”

Pack up the babies and grab the old ladies…

You would definitely not be able to sell a “Mother Tincture” of whiskey. And a regular tincture is probably out as well.

That link involves brand names, not types or styles of alcohol itself.

Call it ‘Wiskey’ and ‘burben’ and hire a sharp lawyer to fight out in court

I think a microscopic fraction of one drop from the original bottle would be overkill, so feel free to drink the rest and never fear you are wasting your original investment. And don’t use rotgut (horrors!), but the finest whiskey you can find. After all, in a million years, from a billion consumers, one of them might just stumble upon a single molecule of your whiskey and sue you. :slight_smile:

Not only that, but there are specific steps that Hahnemann required such as using a leather pad to repeatedly tap (succuss) each bottle of intermediate solution, and the number of taps is also prescribed.

Not so simple now, is it? :slight_smile:

I presumed you wanted a brand name that included whiskey.

Nope-The brand name would be Invisible Jackalope, and would, of course, have a beautifully drawn portrait of an invisible jackalope on every bottle.

Hangover cure.

Then I’m not sure why you bother with diluting whiskey if you aren’t calling your product by a name that implies whiskey to the buyer.

Here’s some background on the subject from the FDA (pdf). Whether or not the alcohol is considered an active ingredient may make a difference.

Invisible Jackalope would be the brand name of the product, the product would be homeopathic whiskey.

I can’t open a pdf at work…but I do believe that alcohol would be the only active ingredient.