# legal question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 10, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040 "2011-01-10T00:02:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/61 "2011-01-10T22:06:55Z")

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> [@monjb](#):
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> I’m not making excuses for him. Ive been with him for 13 yrs. and known him longer than that. So if you dont have an answer for me about the case than you can just butt out. I think who ever is saying this is an asshole.

**Moderator comment** :

**monjb** , you need to dial it back a bit. It’s against the rules to call someone an asshole in this forum–in fact anywhere on the SDMB other than the Pit. From the context, it isn’t 100% that you are actually addressing that epithet to specific posters in this thread, so I’m not officially “mod noting” you, or warning you. But I am reminding you to take it easy here.

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**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/62 "2011-01-10T22:28:18Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Negligent entrustment doesn’t exist in some jurisdictions.
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> Plus, she was uninsured, and the asset check probably revealed that she had less to seize than the cost of the suit.

Ah, ok.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/63 "2011-01-10T22:49:18Z")

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> [@monjb](#):
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> I’ll have to defend him on this he is not an alcoholic and I 'am pretty sure you yourself or someone you love has drove drunk before . I know I have everyone makes mistakes.

Why is it that drunk drivers/alcoholics always incorrectly assume that _everyone_ has driven drunk at one time or other?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/64 "2011-01-10T23:04:19Z")

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> [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](#):
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> Why is it that drunk drivers/alcoholics always incorrectly assume that _everyone_ has driven drunk at one time or other?

She didn’t, she said you or someone you love. Hell, Second Stone knows _hundreds_ of alcoholic drunk drivers, so that might mess up the averages.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/65 "2011-01-11T03:07:53Z")

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IME, everyone _has_ driven drunk at least once. People are very bad at judging how impaired they are.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/66 "2011-01-11T03:16:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> IME, everyone _has_ driven drunk at least once. People are very bad at judging how impaired they are.

Not me. I never have more than one beer. And if the wife and I are out to dinner, I nurse that one beer through dinner, easily an hour or more.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/67 "2011-01-11T03:17:27Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> Not me. I never have more than one beer. And if the wife and I are out to dinner, I nurse that one beer through dinner, easily an hour or more.

Why do you hate America? 😛

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/68 "2011-01-11T03:31:54Z")

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The comment was directed at me and it was a fair comment. I’m an a-hole. There is a general consensus in these parts and I agree with it. Not only have I never driven drunk, I’ve never been drunk. And in the 20 years I’ve been avoiding drunk driving cases (hey, I’ve actually taken two of them!) I have met hundreds of people with DUI and/or are admitted alcoholics.

Those of us who drive badly sober wish that the drunks would get themselves into a program like AA.

And yes, I have loved ones who have driven drunk. And they are alcoholics. Every last one of them. It usually takes quite a while before they will admit that to themselves and others.

I also know people who get drunk, get into cars and hurt people. They claim that don’t have a drinking problem and don’t drink to excess. They have been to jail. They are in denial.

Anybody who has driven drunk and hurt someone and served 1.5 years in prison is a felony drunk driver. An alcoholic. De Nile is not just a river in Egypt. He’s an alcoholic. I repeat, he is an alcoholic. He damn near killed someone (he wouldn’t have done 1.5 years in prison if that weren’t the case.) As long as he and the people around him do not take this matter seriously enough to get themselves to meetings and pretend that they do not have problems, it will happen again.

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**Author:** ![monjb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@monjb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monjb)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/69 "2011-01-11T03:41:31Z")

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your so cool

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/70 "2011-01-11T03:46:38Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> The comment was directed at me and it was a fair comment. I’m an a-hole. There is a general consensus in these parts and I agree with it. Not only have I never driven drunk, I’ve never been drunk. And in the 20 years I’ve been avoiding drunk driving cases (hey, I’ve actually taken two of them!) I have met hundreds of people with DUI and/or are admitted alcoholics.
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> Those of us who drive badly sober wish that the drunks would get themselves into a program like AA.
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> And yes, I have loved ones who have driven drunk. And they are alcoholics. Every last one of them. It usually takes quite a while before they will admit that to themselves and others.
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> I also know people who get drunk, get into cars and hurt people. They claim that don’t have a drinking problem and don’t drink to excess. They have been to jail. They are in denial.
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> Anybody who has driven drunk and hurt someone and served 1.5 years in prison is a felony drunk driver. An alcoholic. De Nile is not just a river in Egypt. He’s an alcoholic. I repeat, he is an alcoholic. He damn near killed someone (he wouldn’t have done 1.5 years in prison if that weren’t the case.) As long as he and the people around him do not take this matter seriously enough to get themselves to meetings and pretend that they do not have problems, it will happen again.

[Moderator Note]Let’s take the discussion about the definition of “alcoholism” to another thread, o.k.?[/Moderator Note]

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/71 "2011-01-11T03:47:27Z")

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> [@monjb](#):
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> your so cool

Did you consult a lawyer today as you said you would?

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**Author:** ![monjb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@monjb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monjb)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/72 "2011-01-11T04:00:37Z")

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no the lawyer I am trying to talk to was out of town with another case.

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**Author:** ![monjb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@monjb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monjb)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legal-question/567040/73 "2011-01-12T22:59:28Z")

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Well, my fiancée did talk to his lawyer and he said it would be double jeopardy to charge him with anything other than a law-suite, since he had already been convicted for the crime. so thanks to all. You all had good advice. Again thanks!

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