# Legality of Nevada malaria treatment ban **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [March 25, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247 "2020-03-25T12:12:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/61 "2020-04-10T02:20:55Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > Dr. Wallace might assuage your fear, and a lot of other fears people have expressed on this message board in regards to Hydroxychloroquine: > > His interview starts around 2:30, but the lead up is also very interesting. Ya know, Jim, you seem to have trouble distinguishing from credible sources and quacks, so let me offer some advice: Oz is a discredited quack. Almost any doctor who’s not a discredited quack will tell you so. [Here’s one](https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-is-alleged-quack-dr-oz-giving-coronavirus-advice-on-the-today-show): > [@](#): > > “He’s just a quack,” said physician and scientific researcher Henry I. Miller, one of Oz’s more vocal critics in the medical community, but by no means unique in his condemnation of, among other transgressions, Oz’s enthusiastic endorsements of phony weight-loss remedies, his bogus claims of dangerous levels of arsenic in children’s apple juice, and his willingness to provide a platform to the debunked assertion that genetically modified food causes cancer. But I forced myself, for your sake, to watch the Daniel Wallace interview. Wallace, who is NOT, as Oz gushes, a “foremost authority” says that the incidence of toxic retinopathy for patients on HCQ for 5 years is zero. Not true, but close. But for any MD to consent to an interview with another MD as discredited as Oz is suspect in an of itself. So [here are some experts](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-miraculous-recovery-some-icu-doctors-say-hydroxychloroquine-isn-t-n1177556) who really _are_ experts: > [@](#): > > “UC San Diego Health does not support the use of medications in ways for which there is not yet scientific evidence to support safety and efficacy,” > > Critical care physicians at Northwestern Medicine in Chicago aren’t using it either. “It’s the view of our ICU group here that the data supporting its use are insufficient for routine use for COVID-19 patients, particularly when they become critically ill,” Dr. Ben Singer, assistant professor of medicine in pulmonary and critical care at Northwestern University’s Feinberg School of Medicine, said. > > But, “those reports were talking about patients who received a particular drug and then got better. We know most people with COVID-19 get better on their own,” said Dr. Wesley Self, an emergency physician at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee, who is studying the drug. … > [@](#): > > “If you took those same people, and didn’t give them medicine, many of them would report, we think, similar rates of recovery,” Self said. > > In other words, it’s possible those patients would have improved clinically whether they got hydroxychloroquine or nothing at all. I’m sure it’s tempting to believe whatever you find that bolsters your hope, however unscientific. Try to put that aside and look at the data from true experts that don’t corroborate what you want to believe. You’ll be better off, and so will the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/62 "2020-04-10T15:07:32Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Ya know, Jim, you seem to have trouble distinguishing from credible sources and quacks, so let me offer some advice: Oz is a discredited quack. Almost any doctor who’s not a discredited quack will tell you so. [Here’s one](https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-is-alleged-quack-dr-oz-giving-coronavirus-advice-on-the-today-show): “Credible Source” vs. “Quack” is not as useful a dichotomy as you seem to think it is, and I think it is leading you astray here. It is actually a trend in responses on this message board: people will write that they won’t even read or listen to a source (for example, Dr. Oz here) because they consider them a quack, and seem to sometimes go to the extreme of therefore automatically believing the opposite of what the supposed “Quack” says. (I guess people attracted to a message board promising the “Straight Dope” tend to give more weight to sources deemed an authority by group consensus than folks do elsewhere.) I think “Credible Source” vs. “Quack” can save time, as one can rule out looking at a source when trying to get at some truth, from past experience of the source being wrong. But I recommend being open to going back to a source one considers a “Quack” and evaluating their new message without bias from prior experience. And certainly don’t dismiss a source on someone else’s word that the source is a “Quack”, without having ever considered the source, which I suspect some people do as well. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/63 "2020-04-10T15:16:48Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > “Credible Source” vs. “Quack” is not as useful a dichotomy as you seem to think it is, and I think it is leading you astray here. It is actually a trend in responses on this message board: people will write that they won’t even read or listen to a source (for example, Dr. Oz here) because they consider them a quack, and seem to sometimes go to the extreme of therefore automatically believing the opposite of what the supposed “Quack” says. (I guess people attracted to a message board promising the “Straight Dope” tend to give more weight to sources deemed an authority by group consensus than folks do elsewhere.) I think “Credible Source” vs. “Quack” can save time, as one can rule out looking at a source when trying to get at some truth, from past experience of the source being wrong. But I recommend being open to going back to a source one considers a “Quack” and evaluating their new message without bias from prior experience. And certainly don’t dismiss a source on someone else’s word that the source is a “Quack”, without having ever considered the source, which I suspect some people do as well. All I see here are people going back to the source – the French study, which has since been disavowed by the publisher. What source would Dr. Oz lead me to? Does he provide cites with his videos? In other words, WTF are you talking about? If a doctor often pushes discredited ideas, it’s pretty safe to ignore him and go to real research scientists instead, right? ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/64 "2020-04-10T15:23:17Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > All I see here are people going back to the source – the French study, which has since been disavowed by the publisher. What source would Dr. Oz lead me to? Does he provide cites with his videos? In other words, WTF are you talking about? > > If a doctor often pushes discredited ideas, it’s pretty safe to ignore him and go to real research scientists instead, right? In this instance I was directly responding to someone’s expressed fears of heart side effects of Hydroxychloroquine, by providing a link to Dr. Oz interviewing a Dr. Wallace, wherein Dr. Wallace gave his assessment of the heart risks as being, as I interpreted it, not so scary. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/65 "2020-04-10T15:39:13Z")
Hey Jim You do realize that the link I posted in post 59 completely and fully refutes the supposition that people that take Hydroxychloroquine don’t get COVID-19, right? The links you posted are all from people I consider to be disreputable but that’s not the primary reason they are bullshit. They are bullshit because it only takes me a few minutes on line to refute them. Viruses have confounded medical scientists for decades. They aren’t like bacterial infections, which are frequently treated very successfully. To date, the best anti-virals available do nothing but slow down viral reproduction and the only cure is time. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/66 "2020-04-10T15:49:56Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > In this instance I was directly responding to someone’s expressed fears of heart side effects of Hydroxychloroquine, by providing a link to Dr. Oz interviewing a Dr. Wallace, wherein Dr. Wallace gave his assessment of the heart risks as being, as I interpreted it, not so scary. Oh, the same doctor that claimed that Lupus patients did not get corona? He was wrong. > **[Trump's False Coronavirus Claim About Lupus Patients - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trumps-false-coronavirus-claim-about-lupus-patients/)** > > President Donald Trump once again touted hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus. This time, the president falsely claimed that "people with lupus" who take hydroxychloroquine "aren’t catching this... > [@](#): > > The White House did not offer any support for the president’s claim that “people with lupus aren’t catching” the coronavirus. However, there is evidence from the COVID-19 Global Rheumatology Alliance that he is wrong. > > The international alliance was formed to “help guide rheumatology clinicians in assessing and treating patients with rheumatologic disease.” The alliance — which is supported by the Lupus Foundation of America, Lupus Research Alliance and the American College of Rheumatology — has called on clinicians to report “all cases of COVID-19 in rheumatology patients, including those with mild or no symptoms.” > > As of April 2, the group had information on 110 validated patients: 36% with rheumatoid arthritis, 17% with psoriatic arthritis and 17% with systemic lupus erythematosus, or lupus, an autoimmune disease. > > “One frequently asked question: over 25% of patients who developed a COVID-19 were on HCQ at the time of diagnosis,” the group said in a tweet thread on April 2, referring to hydroxychloroquine. > > “Based on early data currently available in our registry, we are not able to report any evidence of a protective effect from hydroxychloroquine against COVID-19,” the group said in an April 4 tweet. To be clear, that doesn’t mean there isn’t one — but there aren’t signs so far, and ultimately, the question will have to be answered in a randomized controlled trial. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/67 "2020-04-10T15:59:34Z")
> [@vaping lung damage and coronavirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vaping-lung-damage-and-coronavirus/848556/1): > > Does anyone else remember the “epidemic” of lung damage due to vaping that was in the news towards the end of last year? > [https://www.healthline.com/health-news/vaping-may-be-causing-acute-lung-damage-in-teens](https://www.healthline.com/health-news/vaping-may-be-causing-acute-lung-damage-in-teens) > How many of the coronavirus casualties were vapers? (I read smokers are considered a higher risk, and “a lot” of Chinese males are smokers, but how about vaping?) Could the coronavirus be a “bad cold” that is particularly bad for vapers? And when did the technology to gene sequence a virus start being used to track infections? Could the panic be due to a confluence of a specific virus identification technology being newly available, and also a new type of lung damage from vaping starting to pop up? > [@How concerned are you about this Coronavirus?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-concerned-are-you-about-this-coronavirus/847164/419): > > Now some experts are looking at vape lung as a cause for the freak out: > [Flu, vaping or novel coronavirus: experts suspect the US might have failed to identify causes of deaths - Global Times](http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181292.shtml) > Was this the spread of my idea, or near simultaneous discovery? > [@grid sampled virus database?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grid-sampled-virus-database/848656/3): > > Hey, I’m not panicing. As I explained in my original post, I firmly believe it’s a run of the mill virus and the whole freak out was due to vapers who damaged their lungs with new bad additives experiencing a run of the mill flu season. Can we really doubt that a dog tested positive for the coronavirus because of the political leanings of the news source? I don’t. Can someone find a source for it which people haven’t blocked out of consideration? > [@Spring Break in Vegas.. Cancel?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/spring-break-in-vegas-cancel/849365/7): > > I think Vegas would be a bad vacation. But I am not changing any of my plans for coronavirus. I think it is an overblown run of the mill virus. > [@Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/895): > > I certainly do remember, Aleq, and have a thread over on General Questions about it. If it was coronavirus back then, it has been spreading much longer than the main narrative says, and so I am not alarmed about this virus. I think the Chinese freaked out back around the new year because they were seeing a spike in pneumonia cases when people with vape lung hit the flu season. Read that thread and reply with your thoughts. > [@proposal to minimize economic impact of pandemics](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-to-minimize-economic-impact-of-pandemics/849512/14): > > I think instead of complete cancelation, going from a crowd of say 60000 to 0. Instead you might have a crowd of 40000. > [@How concerned should I be about eating fast food in the covid-19 pandemic?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-concerned-should-i-be-about-eating-fast-food-in-the-covid-19-pandemic/849494/16): > > What is the threshold number of deaths there will have to be before you finally admit to being utterly wrong? (I’m gessing infinity.) > [@How concerned should I be about eating fast food in the covid-19 pandemic?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-concerned-should-i-be-about-eating-fast-food-in-the-covid-19-pandemic/849494/18): > > More than the flu. Way ahead of you, Jim. We do our best to consider the source. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/68 "2020-04-10T16:21:33Z")
I see the whole “Do Lupus patients have a lower incidence of serious Covid infections?” as a different debate. The Dr. Oz video I posted a link to does discuss that, but my purpose in posting the link was to give another poster a chance to listen to Dr. Wallace’s assessment of the heart side effect danger of Hydroxychloroquine, independent of Lupus. I haven’t looked at all the Lupus links people are posting. That issue is lower down in my stack of things I want to learn about than a lot of other stuff. But I have the suspicion there is an issue with whether the patients were also getting enough zinc. The “Trump Pills”, the last time I checked, were: Hydroxychloroquine + ZInc + Azithromycin. A Dr. Cardillo argues the necessity of zinc here: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SKZidi5yOb4/hqdefault.jpg "LA DOCTOR SEEING SUCCESS WITH HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE/ZINC TO TREAT COVID-19") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKZidi5yOb4) (The azithromycin is an antibiotic, and my inference is that it is part of the drug cocktail in order to treat secondary bacterial infections.) If Lupus patients are having serious enough Covid infections to be included in these studies (assuming they don’t count asymptomatic infections), then I would ask “are they getting enough zinc?” But again that is lower down in my stack of things to read about. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/69 "2020-04-10T16:22:49Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Hey Jim > > You do realize that the link I posted in post 59 completely and fully refutes the supposition that people that take Hydroxychloroquine don’t get COVID-19, right? > … Your problem is that you went to a source, rather than a “source”\*. - YouTube video ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/70 "2020-04-10T16:35:27Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Your problem is that you went to a source, rather than a “source”\*. > > - YouTube video The “source” is Dr. Cardillo. Do you think he is a “Quack”? I guess you don’t like the particular Youtube channel the clip is from? An ABC new’s Youtube channel has the same clip: Does ABC, a mainstream media outlet, as the hosting channel make it a credible enough source? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/71 "2020-04-10T16:45:32Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > The “source” is Dr. Cardillo. Do you think he is a “Quack”? I guess you don’t like the particular Youtube channel the clip is from? An ABC new’s Youtube channel has the same clip: > > Does ABC, a mainstream media outlet, as the hosting channel make it a credible enough source? No, I’m saying a random doctor on a television show is not a source. He is saying it’s a miracle cure – very sick people he’s given it to were symptom-free in hours. Seriously, **Jim** , is there any way that that’s true? No one else has tried this miracle cure? Jesus Christ, use your brain. Anyway, I watched the whole video and saw no references to any scientific cites. He said his results were in line with the French study (which has been withdrawn), but that’s a lie – they didn’t see those kinds of results. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/72 "2020-04-10T16:51:10Z")
Your ‘sources’ are simply not reliable, in fact they are not sources at all because they are not published, nor are they peer reviewed - they are simply words on a video without any context or methodology. They are actually not sources at all. Do you need to have a definition of a ‘source’ in the scientific community sense of the word rather than just some people making their opinions known. You have not linked to any source - please remember that - you have not linked to any source. The word ‘source’ in the scientific sense has a specific meaning - you have not linked to a source Are you getting the idea yet? ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/73 "2020-04-10T17:05:36Z")
I see now, many people define a “source” as a “peer reviewed scientific publication”. I do not require that stamp of approval in order to admit some evidence into my assessment of a situation. And no, Dr. Cardillo is not the only doctor saying this. Google Dr. Zelenko, who credits doctors in France, South Korea, and China for inspiring his treatment approach. In this case, the world doesn’t have time for a formal scientific study to play out. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/74 "2020-04-10T17:10:05Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > In this case, the world doesn’t have time for a formal scientific study to play out. 😕 The world has plenty of time. This is an overblown run of the mill virus, no? Why should we throw out science because you decided to be in a rush? Relax. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/75 "2020-04-10T17:13:55Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > I see now, many people define a “source” as a “peer reviewed scientific publication”. I do not require that stamp of approval in order to admit some evidence into my assessment of a situation. And no, Dr. Cardillo is not the only doctor saying this. Google Dr. Zelenko, who credits doctors in France, South Korea, and China for inspiring his treatment approach. In this case, the world doesn’t have time for a formal scientific study to play out. We don’t need ‘inspired’ treatment approaches, we need scientifically verified ones. To do otherwise is like having a flat earther taking on rocket science. [Flat earther as rocket scientist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrAdayUh6-4) ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/76 "2020-04-10T17:16:10Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > 😕 The world has plenty of time. This is an overblown run of the mill virus, no? Why should we throw out science because you decided to be in a rush? Relax. The economy is shutdown because many people are being told they are not allowed to work. That is a very real danger. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/77 "2020-04-10T17:16:33Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > I do not require that stamp of approval in order to admit some evidence into my assessment of a situation. You do if you want to be taken seriously. These doctors aren’t much different from random street kooks if they are pushing nonsense like this. You’ve been wrong pretty much on every single piece of information you’ve posted here on Covid-19. But as we know, past performance is no guarantee of future results. The 45th try is almost always the one that succeeds. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/78 "2020-04-10T17:19:48Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > I see now, many people define a “source” as a “peer reviewed scientific publication”. I do not require that stamp of approval in order to admit some evidence into my assessment of a situation. And no, Dr. Cardillo is not the only doctor saying this. Google Dr. Zelenko, who credits doctors in France, South Korea, and China for inspiring his treatment approach. In this case, the world doesn’t have time for a formal scientific study to play out. So, do you think Cardillo was truthful when he was saying that, when he gave his mixture to very sick patients, they were symptom-free in 8-12 hours? Dr. Zelenko is a family medicine doctor from upstate NY. If I can get my family doctor to say he’s spouting bullshit, would we call it a tie? On edit, feel free to ignore my second question, but I’d an answer to the first – do you think this mixture is a miracle cure that cures very sick patience to the point of having no symptoms within 12 hours? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/79 "2020-04-10T17:19:37Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > The economy is shutdown because many people are being told they are not allowed to work. That is a very real danger. Don’t worry. I hear there’s a pill for that too! Magic beans, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247/80 "2020-04-10T17:24:54Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > You do if you want to be taken seriously. These doctors aren’t much different from random street kooks if they are pushing nonsense like this. You’ve been wrong pretty much on every single piece of information you’ve posted here on Covid-19. But as we know, past performance is no guarantee of future results. The 45th try is almost always the one that succeeds. I expect when the dust settles people will ask “Why were the Chinese freaking out?” My guess is vape lung, which I think you are referring to. There will probably be many who say “it wasn’t so bad because shutting the economy down worked” when this is all over instead. That is a debate for the future though. If the Trump Pills work, we can open the economy back up though, regardless of why the Chinese freaked out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legality-of-nevada-malaria-treatment-ban/850247.md?page=5)