# Legends of Tomorrow Season 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 14, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506 "2016-10-14T13:59:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/101 "2017-03-15T23:54:44Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Oh come on, lighten up. 😃 It was funny. The audience knows Ray’s love for Star Wars. George Lucas didn’t name Luke’s weapon a lightsword. “It’s like a saber…made of light” may not have been technically accurate, but it works with the canon to make it funny. Everybody has heard of a lightsaber.

They could have done something like this:

SOLDIER: “It’s like a sword … made of light!”  
RAY: “If it were curved, it would be a light” – [looks knowingly at STEEL] – “saber!”  
STEEL: “No. Just no.”

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/102 "2017-03-16T04:37:11Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> They could have done something like this:
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> SOLDIER: “It’s like a sword … made of light!”  
> RAY: “If it were curved, it would be a light” – [looks knowingly at STEEL] – “saber!”  
> STEEL: “No. Just no.”

This is sounding like that bit from _Skyrim_: “They’ve got curved swords. Curved! Swords!”

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/103 "2017-03-16T09:03:30Z")

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**THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!** 😃

Nope. The joke doesn’t really work if you’re going to be pedantic about it. George Lucas didn’t call the damn thing a “lightsword.”

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/104 "2017-03-16T20:42:14Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Also, what became of “Jack Swigert”? Thawne abandoned Lovell and Haise in the command module. Did it land with only the two of them, or did Thawne return to it after escaping from the _Waverider_ to take his place as “Swigert” again?

Yeah, more to the point with this episode, THERE WERE THREE ASTRONAUTS! How are Lovell and Haise going to explain that one?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/105 "2017-03-16T21:04:32Z")

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Well, I guess what it’ll come down to, is, six foot, seven foot, eight foot, bunch.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/106 "2017-03-17T02:52:21Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Well, I guess what it’ll come down to, is, six foot, seven foot, eight foot, bunch.

Daylight come an’ me wanna go home.

I didn’t want this to pass without an acknowledgement that it literally made me spit out my coffee.

We’ll get to see more of Victor Garber singing on _The Flash_, as he’s set to appear in the musical episode along with Jessie L Martin and John Barrowman.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzC0jta2nEM)

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/107 "2017-03-19T23:26:27Z")

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Both Snart and Rory will be in the new Prison Break (they were in the original), not sure how that effect their screen time on LoT

Brian

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/108 "2017-03-20T00:27:52Z")

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Is the the show new this week? My DVR guide literally has a gap from 9-10 after flash. Not even a “To Be Announced” place holder. It’s as if Flash is two hours but the running time of Flash says 60 minutes.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/109 "2017-03-20T00:50:52Z")

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TV Guide’s website says it’s a new episode…

…set in WWI France, with young JRR Tolkien.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/110 "2017-03-20T00:53:26Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Is the the show new this week? My DVR guide literally has a gap from 9-10 after flash. Not even a “To Be Announced” place holder. It’s as if Flash is two hours but the running time of Flash says 60 minutes.

Yes, I believe it is. Google says Tuesday’s episode is episode 15: Fellowship of the Spear.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/111 "2017-03-20T16:41:37Z")

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Thanks for the confirmation. Hopefully my DVR updates before tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/112 "2017-03-22T01:53:45Z")

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Deleted line from this episode:

Laurel: “Rip, why don’t we just take the Waverider directly to the place where we can destroy the item that is way too dangerous to fall into anyone’s hands? The whole arduous journey seems unnecessary and superfluous.”

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/113 "2017-03-22T16:59:01Z")

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Laurel is dead, unless they’re going to use the Spear of Destiny to bring her back. Although her Earth-2 doppelganger is still at large. Maybe the Legion of Doom can recruit her.

The show is already recycling its own plots. Just a few episodes ago, they went back in time to give George Lucas the idea for _Star Wars_. Now they give J.R.R. Tolkien the idea for _The Lord of the Rings_. But the show unapologetically recycles plots from everything. It’s frakken trope-tastic!

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/114 "2017-03-26T17:03:54Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> Deleted line from this episode:
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> Laurel: “Rip, why don’t we just take the Waverider directly to the place where we can destroy the item that is way too dangerous to fall into anyone’s hands? The whole arduous journey seems unnecessary and superfluous.”

Or “Why don’t we just time travel to a point when the battle isn’t going on?”

All they had to do was start the episode with “We’ve been hit. The time drive is broken and it’s going to take some time to fix.”

> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> The show is already recycling its own plots. Just a few episodes ago, they went back in time to give George Lucas the idea for _Star Wars_. Now they give J.R.R. Tolkien the idea for _The Lord of the Rings_. But the show unapologetically recycles plots from everything. It’s frakken trope-tastic!

I wish they hadn’t done the Star Wars episode, because I think they did a much better job with the same idea this episode.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/115 "2017-03-26T17:46:17Z")

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I like how they recited part of Aragorn’s speech from ROTK “A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day.” (though that is the movie, not the books IIRC)  
And hey JRRT did write about Sir Gawain and contracted trench fever so the writers did do some homework.

So the bad guys have the spear AND the vial of blood has been destroyed – doesn’t look good. But I’m not too worried as the bad guys won’t use it intelligently.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/116 "2017-03-26T17:50:47Z")

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What I want to know is this: Ok, only the blood of Christ can destroy the Spear. This is the gimmick, so we can’t argue with that. We know that ~0 AD to 33 AD is just totally off limits because the butterfly effect is crazy-ass multiplied.

But you’ve got a ship that travels time and space. Throw the thing into a black hole. Will it be destroyed? No, per the rules above. Will anyone be able to get at it? No. So problem solved.

Or better: use the spear to wish that the spear never existed: remember, it’s paradox-proof, so this isn’t an issue.

Why are the people on this show so DUMB?

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/117 "2017-03-27T13:09:35Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I wish they hadn’t done the Star Wars episode, because I think they did a much better job with the same idea this episode.

The _Star Wars_ episode was a more comedic take. The _LoTR_ episode was set against the backdrop of WWI, so not much opportunity for comedy there. I like them both more or less equally.

> [@Fenris](#):
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> Why are the people on this show so DUMB?

Remember, this is pretty much the same group that repeatedly managed to NOT finish off Vandal Savage last season.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/118 "2017-03-27T13:41:31Z")

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Or why put the spear back together in the first place?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/119 "2017-03-28T23:35:43Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Or “Why don’t we just time travel to a point when the battle isn’t going on?”

Totally. Just go back to 1912, before WW1 started. The Somme was just some pastoral area in France back then. And it’s not like they’ve visited 1912 before so they can’t go there again. They could hop out, retrieve the macguffin, AND as a bonus befuddle the Legion of Doom (who “figured out” that they were gonna go after it in the same time period they learned of its location).

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2/768506/120 "2017-03-29T01:34:39Z")

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So far we have bad guys chewing on lots of scenery and making me laugh. I’ll take this sort of episode.

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