# Legends of Tomorrow Season 3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476 "2017-10-10T12:31:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/21 "2017-11-01T22:24:08Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > This show is now just blatantly, shamelessly stealing plots from old movies. It’s great! Who knew a baby Dominator would be so cute? OK, it was still pretty ugly but cuter than E.T. ever was. > > Great callback to last season. The bespectacled agent in charge here was the same one we saw in last season’s episode with the Dominators. The poor guy is going to be spending his whole life chasing those aliens, only to be ultimately exiled to a remote arctic station. > > In the last scene with the heroes’ lineup, Zari appeared in a costume that was inspired by [her comic-book counterpart](http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Adrianna_Tomaz_(New_Earth)). I wonder if we’ll ever see it again. > > I’m going to be sad to see Victor Garber go. He lends the show just that tiny bit of class. Damm, Ray’s Mom was hot, took me right back to the eighties. I think Caity Lotz should have chosen a look other than Madonna. Rory stealing the halloween candy had me in stitches. This show is Doctor who done right. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/22 "2017-11-01T23:58:53Z")
Another Spielberg tribute - Nate polishing the DeLorean. “_This_ is a time machine.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/23 "2017-11-02T00:15:25Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Damm, Ray’s Mom was hot, took me right back to the eighties. I think Caity Lotz should have chosen a look other than Madonna. Rory stealing the halloween candy had me in stitches. “Billy Jo-El?” ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/24 "2017-11-02T00:30:51Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > “Billy Jo-El?” Almost as good as Nate showing up as animal control, looking for a cougar ,lol. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/25 "2017-11-02T00:47:58Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Almost as good as Nate showing up as animal control, looking for a cougar ,lol. Amaya, Ray’s mom, Nate seems to like the older ladies. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/26 "2017-11-04T01:40:55Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Another Spielberg tribute - Nate polishing the DeLorean. > > “_This_ is a time machine.” I thought that was a Delorean. Got a kick out of the prominently displayed walkie-talkie - a reference to the editing out of the guns in “ET”? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/27 "2017-11-08T14:05:51Z")
Martin Stein lives on a time-traveling spaceship, fought aliens and zombies, seen magic in action, but he doesn’t think vampires are real? Damien Dahrk returns for another shot at Sara Lance. I think this is the writers acknowledging that he was really, really wasted on _Arrow_. The question is, can he carry the season without two or three other villains with which to chew scenery? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/28 "2017-11-15T14:08:32Z")
Attention Flash writers: This is how you portray strong women kicking ass and being heroes. Show, don’t tell. None of this hashtag nonsense. Granted, it also helps that they have a time machine and they can just go and visit real Amazons. This show is such a joy to watch. The old-style black and white opening titles. Sara looking especially fine in dolled up in glamorous Hollywood makeup. A literal war erupting between Hollywood studios. Hedy Lamarr! Themyscira!!! The best part, of course, was Firestorm’s Freaky Friday situation. Franz Drameh did a spot on Victor Garber impression. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/29 "2017-11-15T16:22:31Z")
We must’ve been watching different versions. I thought the Martin Stein impersonation was pretty weak, though the Freaky Friday stuff was lots of fun. Also, while I like Neil McDonough’s Damien Darhk, too soon. I understand if you don’t keep McDonough in play, he’ll probably find other work and be unavailable, but Darhk has been over-exposed. Also, how old is Stein supposed to be? Hedy Lamarr was a great beauty in her day, but my guess is that she would be at least 35 years older than Martin Stein. ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/30 "2017-11-16T01:38:44Z")
Anyone else think the head gear that lead to the brain swap was a Weird Science call-out? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/31 "2017-11-20T02:46:23Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Also, how old is Stein supposed to be? Hedy Lamarr was a great beauty in her day, but my guess is that she would be at least 35 years older than Martin Stein. That would be the age difference between her and Victor Garber, so probably about that. But Stein seems like he’d go for the classics. They really seem to be dialing back Sarah’s sexuality this season… You’d think Helen of Troy, a woman so preternaturally beautiful she started an _actual shooting war_ between movie studios would at least turn her head, even if she didn’t get dragged around by her genitals like the guys did at a couple points. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/32 "2017-11-20T03:01:55Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > That would be the age difference between her and Victor Garber, so probably about that. But Stein seems like he’d go for the classics. > > They really seem to be dialing back Sarah’s sexuality this season… You’d think Helen of Troy, a woman so preternaturally beautiful she started an _actual shooting war_ between movie studios would at least turn her head, even if she didn’t get dragged around by her genitals like the guys did at a couple points. I thought of that myself, but apparently this Helen’s effect is only on men - or else the solution of dropping her off on Paradise Island would have been no solution at all. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/33 "2017-11-20T03:08:49Z")
Coming up, Gorilla Grodd! This should be good. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/34 "2017-11-20T03:37:36Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > I thought of that myself, but apparently this Helen’s effect is only on men - or else the solution of dropping her off on Paradise Island would have been no solution at all. That doesn’t necessarily argue against it…she might not get the Amazons forming up battle lines, but I’d expect her to be very popular. The effect doesn’t seem to be any form of mind control, but rather just being Really (Possibly Literally) Goddamned Hot, and thereby triggering extreme versions of some of the more unhealthy cultural traits in the female-attracted men she interacts with, and presumably this is one of the takes on the Amazons which goes with ‘warriors, but only for peace’, so the effect wouldn’t be the same. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/35 "2017-11-20T04:31:58Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > That doesn’t necessarily argue against it…she might not get the Amazons forming up battle lines, but I’d expect her to be very popular. The effect doesn’t seem to be any form of mind control, but rather just being Really (Possibly Literally) Goddamned Hot, and thereby triggering extreme versions of some of the more unhealthy cultural traits in the female-attracted men she interacts with, and presumably this is one of the takes on the Amazons which goes with ‘warriors, but only for peace’, so the effect wouldn’t be the same. nm - I see **Kamino Neko** already made the point wrt Sarah… ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/36 "2017-11-20T04:51:28Z")
Sara did flirt with Helen of Troy, but only to the extent she flirted with any other female (or male) she’s attracted to. The latter’s effect on men, however, was quite literally preternatural. Helen of Troy was supposed to be the daughter of Zeus, so there was probably something mystical going on there. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/37 "2017-11-20T12:52:25Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > That doesn’t necessarily argue against it…she might not get the Amazons forming up battle lines, but I’d expect her to be very popular. The effect doesn’t seem to be any form of mind control, but rather just being Really (Possibly Literally) Goddamned Hot, and thereby triggering extreme versions of some of the more unhealthy cultural traits in the female-attracted men she interacts with, and presumably this is one of the takes on the Amazons which goes with ‘warriors, but only for peace’, so the effect wouldn’t be the same. That makes sense - thanks. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/38 "2017-11-20T15:33:39Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > That would be the age difference between her and Victor Garber, so probably about that. But Stein seems like he’d go for the classics. Nah, I was just assuming that Stein is ~65. Nothing wrong with the classics, but picking someone 35 years older than yourself as one’s fantasy ‘freebie’? Figuring Stein did that when he was about 25, Hedy Lamarr would have been 60. That’s…off, even for Professor Stein. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/39 "2017-11-20T16:55:24Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Nah, I was just assuming that Stein is ~65. Nothing wrong with the classics, but picking someone 35 years older than yourself as one’s fantasy ‘freebie’? Figuring Stein did that when he was about 25, Hedy Lamarr would have been 60. That’s…off, even for Professor Stein. I figured that Stein thought it would never happen, so he picked someone he truly admired. On rewatch, I finally got that Sara went to abduct/rescue Helen driving a horse trailer, with Amaya and Zara hidden inside. Because, you know, horses and Trojans. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/40 "2017-11-20T17:00:40Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > On rewatch, I finally got that Sara went to abduct/rescue Helen driving a horse trailer, with Amaya and Zara hidden inside. Because, you know, horses and Trojans. Hence the crack about “Have people gotten smarter in 3000 years?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476.md?page=3)