# Legends of Tomorrow Season 3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476 "2017-10-10T12:31:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/41 "2017-11-20T17:06:32Z")
Maybe it would’ve worked if it was a rabbit trailer. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/42 "2017-11-22T14:05:00Z")
Kudos to the location scout and/or set dresser for managing to make Vancouver look like Viet Nam. At first I thought that this was going to be one of those disjointed episodes with multiple unconnected narrative threads (Cf. yesterday’s _Supergirl_), what with most of the team running off into the jungle leaving Jax and Marty behind on the Waverider to work out their divorce. But the Waverider actually became relevant during the climax of the episode, pulling all the threads neatly together. I stand by my assertion that _Legends_ is the best, most tightly-written show of the Berlantiverse. This was an unusually serious, introspective episode. Especially introspective for Mick. Some great character development there. Now does interacting with his father change his own personal timeline? Next week is the crossover. I’ve created a separate thread for all crossover-related discussion. In case you haven’t seen it yet,[Crisis on Earth-X](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=842378) ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/43 "2017-11-22T14:13:25Z")
Oh, and this episode pointed out what’s possibly a Very Important Plot Point. Mick and his father, Stein and his great(x5) grandfather, Amaya and her granddaughter, big Ray and little Ray, there’s some sort of pattern going on there. Possibly due to Dhark or even Mallus. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/44 "2017-11-22T20:41:52Z")
‘There is no Sarah, only Grodd.’ ‘Kneel before Grodd!’ Grodd is a neeeeeerd. Also, having seen no promotional material, I didn’t realize Grodd was going to be the villain, so everyone calling him ‘the new god’ had me going down a different route as to who it might be. (Not that the New Gods would be as inherently anachronistic as Grodd, but they could have made it work!) ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/45 "2017-11-23T03:09:49Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Oh, and this episode pointed out what’s possibly a Very Important Plot Point. Mick and his father, Stein and his great(x5) grandfather, Amaya and her granddaughter, big Ray and little Ray, there’s some sort of pattern going on there. Possibly due to Dhark or even Mallus. And we still don’t know who the father of Stein’s grandchild is… ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/46 "2017-11-23T04:13:09Z")
Oops. Missed one of my comments, in my previous post. Johnson’s makeup was terrible. The last time I saw such an obviously fake nose, I was watching the video for Humpty Dance. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/47 "2017-12-06T14:15:57Z")
_Legends_ is now trolling the other shows in the Arrowverse. When young Stein shot the toy arrow to get Beebo, the oh-so-dramatic _Arrow_ main theme started playing. Come to think of it, Iris outright complained about Felicity butting in on her wedding vows, but the way _Legends_ did it was much more meta. The fight between Legends and Vikings over a blue teddy bear was absolutely hilarious and perfectly _Legends_. Agent Sharpe actually got to be an active participant in another Legends fuckup. A little of Sara is rubbing off on her. We now see why Citizen Cold decided to stick around. Ostensibly to help the Legends deal with Martin’s death (with a Stein puppet, no less), but really to help himself deal with his own partner’s death (i.e., Rory-X). This was the mid-season finale, so we’ll have to wait until the show returns early next year to see what John Constantine wants. Unfortunately, when the other shows come back, _Legends_ isn’t coming back with them. _Black Lightning_ is going to premiere in the _Legends_ timeslot. I’m not sure when the show will come back. Happy Beebo Day! ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/48 "2017-12-06T14:59:20Z")
I really wish they’d give Constantine a 3 or 4 episode miniseries to wrap up his show. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/49 "2017-12-06T16:19:32Z")
Frak. It looks like Franz Drameh has also left the show: [http://ew.com/tv/2017/12/05/legends-of-tomorrow-franz-drameh-exit/](http://ew.com/tv/2017/12/05/legends-of-tomorrow-franz-drameh-exit/). Jax isn’t dead so hopefully they’ll find a way for him to come back. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/50 "2017-12-06T17:46:09Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > _Legends_ is now trolling the other shows in the Arrowverse. When young Stein shot the toy arrow to get Beebo, the oh-so-dramatic _Arrow_ main theme started playing. Come to think of it, Iris outright complained about Felicity butting in on her wedding vows, but the way _Legends_ did it was much more meta. > > The fight between Legends and Vikings over a blue teddy bear was absolutely hilarious and perfectly _Legends_. Agent Sharpe actually got to be an active participant in another Legends fuckup. A little of Sara is rubbing off on her. > > We now see why Citizen Cold decided to stick around. Ostensibly to help the Legends deal with Martin’s death (with a Stein puppet, no less), but really to help himself deal with his own partner’s death (i.e., Rory-X). > > This was the mid-season finale, so we’ll have to wait until the show returns early next year to see what John Constantine wants. Unfortunately, when the other shows come back, _Legends_ isn’t coming back with them. _Black Lightning_ is going to premiere in the _Legends_ timeslot. I’m not sure when the show will come back. > > Happy Beebo Day! They said after the episode that _Legends_ is coming back in February, with no specific date. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/51 "2017-12-06T21:16:29Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I really wish they’d give Constantine a 3 or 4 episode miniseries to wrap up his show. He’s getting an animated series, next year…the problem is it’s a web series, and, like their other web series, only an hour or two in total, so any wrapping up will probably be perfunctory. (Assuming it’s the same universe, which isn’t 100% clear.) To the main episode… It really bugged me that Darhk was able to pass himself off as Odin without, in some way, hiding that he had two good eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/52 "2017-12-09T02:27:28Z")
The CW has announced that _Legends_ will return on Feb 12, in _Supergirl_’s timeslot. The latter show was previously set to come back on Jan 15. Then _Legends_ is going to air for nine weeks (which I think concludes its season), before _Supergirl_ returns to air its remaining episodes. This juggling of schedules can’t be good for either show. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/53 "2018-01-20T13:06:02Z")
I didn’t know whether to put this in the Flash season 4 thread or in here since this affects both shows. I guess I’ll put it here, even though _Legends_ doesn’t return until Feb. 12. Keiynan Lonsdale, who plays Wally West, aka Kid Flash, will be leaving the _Flash_ series, from which he has been largely absent for most of the season, to _Legends of Tomorrow_ where he will become a series regular. Lonsdale’s first episode as a Legends regular will be on episode 11 on Feb. 19, and he will formally join the Legends two weeks later. > **[The Flash's Keiynan Lonsdale Moving to Legends of Tomorrow as Series Regular](https://tvline.com/2018/01/19/keiynan-lonsdale-exits-the-flash-joins-legends-of-tomorrow/)** > > One of the Waveriders’ newly vacated seats has already been filled. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/54 "2018-02-12T11:56:23Z")
A reminder that _Legends_ returns TONIGHT (Monday instead of Tuesday) replacing _Supergirl_ in its timeslot. It is supposed to air all its remaining nine episodes for the season, after which _Supergirl_ returns to close out its season. In tonight’s episode, John Constantine boards the Waverider to collect on the debt Sara own him for reviving her. Trailer: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPYV39u56mA) ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/55 "2018-02-13T14:18:21Z")
That was quite the fine episode of _Constantine_, complete with logo and theme music. At the same time, it was also a great episode of _Legends_, advancing the overarching plot with regards to Damien, Nora and Mallus. They didn’t forget the comedy. The best bit was probably Mick snapping off orders to the away team, just so he can go back to watching his football game. Plus Gideon got off a few snarky lines. We also got reminded that Sara is bi. And apparently Constantine is bi as well. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/56 "2018-02-13T14:50:41Z")
I hope no one was trying to seduce someone while I was getting a lobotomy! ---
**Author:** ![Iggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Iggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggins)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/57 "2018-02-13T17:48:37Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > And apparently Constantine is bi as well. The Constantine: Hellblazer series explored this side of John. > **[The New Constantine Comic Is Way More Comfortable With His Bisexuality](https://gizmodo.com/the-new-constantine-comic-is-way-more-comfortable-with-1710643002)** > > This week saw the launch of Constantine: Hellblazer, a new DC ongoing series for everyone’s favorite British Occult Detective. And while its first issue is enjoyable in and of itself, it has one notable little element to it: The comic is portraying... ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/58 "2018-02-13T19:21:10Z")
I haven’t really watched any of the CW shows except for Constantine, so I had to go watch this episode today. Thought it was pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/59 "2018-02-13T20:11:12Z")
I was amused that the asylum that John found Nora in was the Sumner Asylum. (John’s look was based on Sting in the movie Brimstone and Treacle.) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476/60 "2018-02-14T19:01:04Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I haven’t really watched any of the CW shows except for Constantine, so I had to go watch this episode today. Thought it was pretty good. Constantine was on NBC, not CW. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-3/798476.md?page=4)