# Legends of Tomorrow Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974 "2018-10-15T12:47:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/21 "2018-11-05T13:22:33Z")
Dancing Queen promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/QhXYoeERSQI) **LONG LIVE THE CORGI** - _When the Legends discover a fugitive is hiding in 1970’s London, they realize he is part of a gang that is targeting the British Monarchy. Trying to stop the gang, they realize someone from the Legends must infiltrate them. Surprising everyone, Ray is the one to gain their trust after he is put through a series of tests with help from Sara and Rory. Meanwhile, Gary shows Nate the ropes at the Time Bureau, but it turns out to be anything other than an ordinary day at the office._ ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/22 "2018-11-06T11:03:00Z")
Enter “Charlie”. So the Legends pick up yet another misfit. That was certainly a creative way to introduce a new character while keeping the same actress, perfectly in keeping with what’s already been previously established. Great callback to “Here I Go Again”. Shapeshifting seems like it would be a useful ability when battling a magical fugitive but Constantine took it away. Hopefully Charlie has other abilities. Does Maisie Richardson-Sellers get to speak in her native accent now? The lunch lady “Mona” that Gary zapped MiB-style is also supposed to be a new cast member, although my understanding is that she’s supposed to be called “Alaska Yu”. Poor Nate still hasn’t gotten over Amaya and now there’s an Amaya lookalike on the Waverider. It looks like he’ll be stuck in the Time Bureau a little while longer. He’s also missing his time bro Ray (or rather Rayge) and has to settle for Gary, of all people. It did seem like they had a good time fighting Audrey II. Caity Lotz posted this Instagram video: [CAITY LOTZ on Instagram: "New music video!!! 🕺🏻 A little tease to get you excited for tonight’s episode of #legendsoftomorrow ✨"](https://www.instagram.com/p/BpzybirA8Ly/) This episode featuring anarchy in the UK was aired on the Fifth of November. I am sure that was a total coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/23 "2018-11-06T23:43:37Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Enter “Charlie”. So the Legends pick up yet another misfit. That was certainly a creative way to introduce a new character while keeping the same actress, perfectly in keeping with what’s already been previously established. Great callback to “Here I Go Again”. Shapeshifting seems like it would be a useful ability when battling a magical fugitive but Constantine took it away. Hopefully Charlie has other abilities. Does Maisie Richardson-Sellers get to speak in her native accent now? > > zapped MiB-style is also supposed to be a new cast member, although my understanding is that she’s supposed to be called “Alaska Yu”. > > The lunch lady “Mona” that > Poor Nate still hasn’t gotten over Amaya and now there’s an Amaya lookalike on the Waverider. It looks like he’ll be stuck in the Time Bureau a little while longer. He’s also missing his time bro Ray (or rather Rayge) and has to settle for Gary, of all people. It did seem like they had a good time fighting Audrey II. > > Caity Lotz posted this Instagram video: [CAITY LOTZ on Instagram: "New music video!!! 🕺🏻 A little tease to get you excited for tonight’s episode of #legendsoftomorrow ✨"](https://www.instagram.com/p/BpzybirA8Ly/) > This episode featuring anarchy in the UK was aired on the Fifth of November. I am sure that was a total coincidence. I think Lunch lady is Kaya in the Skya from Z nation. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/24 "2018-11-06T23:47:01Z")
‘Ball kick paradox’ needs to replace ‘grandfather paradox’ for that concept. How long are they going to milk the nipple? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/25 "2018-11-08T19:44:59Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Enter “Charlie”. So the Legends pick up yet another misfit. That was certainly a creative way to introduce a new character while keeping the same actress, perfectly in keeping with what’s already been previously established. Great callback to “Here I Go Again”. Shapeshifting seems like it would be a useful ability when battling a magical fugitive but Constantine took it away. Hopefully Charlie has other abilities. Does Maisie Richardson-Sellers get to speak in her native accent now? Charlie seems to be telepathic, since she was able to imitate people (like Amaya) who she has never seen. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/26 "2018-11-08T21:19:59Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Charlie seems to be telepathic, since she was able to imitate people (like Amaya) who she has never seen. She saw Amaya in the picture from the newspaper. Ray pointed out each of the people and told her about them. When he pointed out Amaya, he said something like “she’s our moral center, but not with us anymore.” So she saw Amaya from the front and is making some guesses about the 3d version. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/27 "2018-11-08T21:23:49Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > She saw Amaya in the picture from the newspaper. Ray pointed out each of the people and told her about them. When he pointed out Amaya, he said something like “she’s our moral center, but not with us anymore.” So she saw Amaya from the front and is making some guesses about the 3d version. Thanks. Sorry about missing that. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/28 "2018-11-12T14:36:43Z")
Wet Hot American Bummer promo: [https://youtu.be/t5cFTT6Veuo](https://youtu.be/t5cFTT6Veuo) **MEMORIES FOR A LIFETIME** - _When the Legends discover that kids at a summer camp have disappeared, Sara, Ava, Ray and Constantine find themselves as the new camp counselors. At camp, Ava struggles to get along with the kids, but Constantine whips up a potion that helps Sara and Ava bond with the children. Luckily, the team finds clues to the whereabouts of the missing kids, but the battle to save them leaves one member in bad shape. Meanwhile, Rory and Zari are tasked with watching the fugitive and Rory finds a kinship with their “prisoner.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/29 "2018-11-13T06:22:51Z")
Pretty low key but absolutely solid episode. It was written and shot like the cheap teen slasher flicks it was emulating, with minimal special effects and not showing the monster until the absolute last minute. The kids they got play Sara and Ava were great. It must have been difficult to stage a fight scene with child actors, especially on a TV budget, but they pulled it off. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/30 "2018-11-14T23:41:57Z")
…I’m in awe with what they’ve managed to turn Legends into. I struggled with the first season. I only stayed around because of Arthur Darvill: I was missing 11 and Rip Hunter was the closest I was going to get. But from season 3 onwards its just been a new show. Not afraid to reinvent itself. Not afraid to get rid of characters, bring characters back, or turn a character inside out. And season 4 is better than 3. Its such great and fearless writing now: not trying to insert pointless drama but focusing on the characters, the relationships, and bringing the funny. And there was a pitch-perfect shout-out to the AV Club last week: the review of the monster movie was actually a pull-quote from an AV Club review from a first season episode: that got a well deserved D+ 🙂 Turns out the writer of that badly reviewed episode also wrote the latest episode, and the episode that got the D+ was also the first thing he had written for television. > The latest got a well deserved A- . That’s just brilliant. > **[A near-perfect Legends Of Tomorrow uses the buddy system in more ways than one](https://www.avclub.com/a-near-perfect-legends-of-tomorrow-uses-the-buddy-syste-1830400305)** > > I’ve seen enough horror movie trailers to know this won’t end well. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/31 "2018-11-15T03:21:07Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > And there was a pitch-perfect shout-out to the AV Club last week: the review of the monster movie was actually a pull-quote from an AV Club review from a first season episode: that got a well deserved D+ 🙂 Turns out the writer of that badly reviewed episode also wrote the latest episode, and the episode that got the D+ was also the first thing he had written for television. > > [https://twitter.com/OliverSava/status/1062374858733043712](https://twitter.com/OliverSava/status/1062374858733043712) > > The latest got a well deserved A- . That’s just brilliant. > > [A near-perfect Legends Of Tomorrow uses the buddy system in more ways than one](https://tv.avclub.com/a-near-perfect-legends-of-tomorrow-uses-the-buddy-syste-1830400305) This show has gone full meta, hasn’t it? From Ray commenting that they need to get their ratings up in the first episode of the season, and now this. That article also has a link that explains why Nick Zano was absent this episode. His wife delivered a baby that went straight into NICU, then into surgery, then into _another_ surgery. Both mother and infant are now doing well. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/32 "2018-11-19T13:27:39Z")
Tagumo Attacks!!! promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/0WL-67epa3M) **SOMETHING’S FISHY** - _A new fugitive is on the loose in 1951 Tokyo and Sara, Zari, Rory and Charlie try to capture it. As Constantine struggles to recover, Ray knows that magic might be the only thing that can save him but must look outside the team for help. Meanwhile, Ava joins Nate and his family for an unconventional Thanksgiving dinner._ That is exactly how this episode is entitled - with three exclamation points!!! ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/33 "2018-11-20T04:28:27Z")
Not sure if I was watching Godzilla or tentacle porn ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/34 "2018-11-20T04:41:22Z")
Tagumo is a good name. It seems to have been created in the same way Godzilla was. Tako + Kumo == Tagumo the same way Gorira + Kujira == Gojira. Onlike Goji-Kun, though, Tagu-chan has retained the original named elements - it’s an octopus (tako) who appears to have a spider (kumo)-like carapace…but Godzilla definitely isn’t a gorilla-whale (gorira kujira). ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/35 "2018-11-20T06:23:37Z")
Having finished the episode, Tagumo is less spidery than the drawing looked. Still sure that’s the derivation of the name, though. Also… ‘Let’s make like a tree and leave.’ ‘I’m not sure if that’s how it goes.’ Now, that is a clever reference. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/36 "2018-11-20T09:31:09Z")
I looked it up: Ishiro Honda, the hapless filmmaker featured in the episode, did indeed create Godzilla in 1954. We can thank Mick Rory for that. I liked how they shot the Tokyo scenes to mimic the cheap color film stock of the 1950s, with flat lighting and desaturated color. And they went to the trouble of staging a kaiju fight in the miniature destructible Tokyo, with Rory’s triple-breasted warrior woman no less. I thought Biff Tannen was just going to be fanservice for a couple of episodes, but it looks like he’s going to sticking around for a while longer. Does he think he can control all the fugitives with food? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/37 "2018-11-26T11:29:37Z")
Tender is the Nate promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/xz1sGE74CJk) **SHOCKED BUT NOT FORGOTTEN** -\* When Hank Heywood (guest star Tom Wilson) confronts Ava about the spending habits of the Legends, Nate steps in to try and smooth things over by inviting Hank on to the Waverider. The Legends then show Hank what they do by visiting 1920s Paris, trying to capture the newest Fugitive. Meanwhile, Mona is trying to make a good impression with Ava, but her over eagerness gets her and Ava stuck in a cell instead.\* ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/38 "2018-11-26T13:31:31Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Does he think he can control all the fugitives with food? Works with Mick. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/39 "2018-11-27T12:43:34Z")
This one was just a comedy of errors, wasn’t it? And it was glorious, from Sara in lingerie to Hank singing James Taylor. I mean, every Legends mission (after Season 1) is pretty much a comedy of errors, but this one even more so. Even Gideon got in a few good zingers. Ava, Nora, and Mona had a better “Girls Night Out” than _The Flash_ episode of the same name. I think Mona is going to fit right in. I hope she gets to go on a few missions. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/40 "2018-11-27T12:44:51Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > This one was just a comedy of errors, wasn’t it? And it was glorious, from Sara in lingerie to Hank singing James Taylor. I mean, every Legends mission (after Season 1) is pretty much a comedy of errors, but this one even more so. Even Gideon got in a few good zingers. > > Ava, Nora, and Mona had a better “Girls Night Out” than _The Flash_ episode of the same name. I think Mona is going to fit right in. I hope she gets to go on a few missions. I had forgotten that Tom Wilson can sing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974.md?page=3)