# Legends of Tomorrow Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974 "2018-10-15T12:47:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/81 "2019-04-30T04:20:28Z")
Gary’s missing nipple not only came back, literally, but is also plot-relevant rather than just a throwaway joke. That’s some forward thinking on the part of the writers. > [@dropzone](#): > > Why didn’t anyone tell me this has Rory in it? Does he get Crowning Moments of Awesome in it? Do you consider Rory moonlighting as the best-selling author of erotic science fiction to be awesome? Because I do. It’s hilarious and also awesome. Now to see if the writers can figure out a way to make that relevant to the plot. Not so awesome is Nate+Zari. I am just not buying it. Those two just have no romantic chemistry. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/82 "2019-04-30T04:40:56Z")
And Constantine revives Nora with Phoenix Down. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/83 "2019-04-30T17:38:25Z")
I don’t know how anyone could possibly complain about this show jumping the shark. This show is a bunch of sharks riding a shark, jumping legions of sharks while sharks fall from the sky. As I tell people, you pretty much know what you’re getting when you watch a CW show. So either enjoy the ride or don’t watch. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/84 "2019-05-06T13:31:03Z")
Nip/Stuck promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/eEW4LB69o-A) Nip/Stuck scene: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/TM1pksb65rI) Inside Nip/Stuck: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/DuOJeCJYQcM) **WHAT WOULD RAY DO?** - \*With Constantine missing, the Legends struggle to find a way to track him. When Sara hesitates to make a tough call, Rory steps up creating a wedge in the team. Meanwhile, Ava gives Gary (guest star Adam Tsekhman) the responsibility of handling the Bureau performance reviews for all the Agents. \* ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/85 "2019-05-07T03:54:50Z")
I thought the best bit was going to be Gideon’s cheerful announcement of the Waverider’s imminent demise. Then they showed us Gary’s demon nipple. Just when you think Gary’s nipple is the height of marvelous ridiculousness, the show brings in the long-feared Tabitha, a.k.a. the Fairy Godmother. And then she and Ray Palmer lock lips. Zari is going to be mother of dragon[Del]s[/Del], isn’t she? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/86 "2019-05-12T02:02:18Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > I thought the best bit was going to be Gideon’s cheerful announcement of the Waverider’s imminent demise. Then they showed us Gary’s demon nipple. Just when you think Gary’s nipple is the height of marvelous ridiculousness, the show brings in the long-feared Tabitha, a.k.a. the Fairy Godmother. And then she and Ray Palmer lock lips. > > Zari is going to be mother of dragon[Del]s[/Del], isn’t she? The Pooka reminded me of a Pakuni (from Land of the Lost). ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/87 "2019-05-13T12:46:23Z")
Terms of Service promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/hJNQWArfViY) Terms of Service scene: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/QK19CKIF7R8) Inside Terms of Service: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/xapAT9w10LQ) **SELLING THEIR SOULS** - _With things getting out of control, Sara and Ava concoct a bold plan to take back the Time Bureau. But when things go awry, Zari and Charlie must work together to discover what Neron is planning. Elsewhere, Constantine, is given a tough choice on who to save from Hell._ ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/88 "2019-05-14T07:14:21Z")
I was right, Zari is going to be mother of dragon[del]s[/del], but it’s present kid Zari rather than future adult Zari. How is this going to tie into the main arc? Gary wants to be a Legend, and he certainly screws up enough for one. However his ambitions are just so small. He had all that power in the form of, at first, a demon nipple then a fairy godmother, and his most ambitious act was to form a book club. Whereas when Mick teamed up with the fairy godmother, he had her turn everyone into puppets. Tabitha foisted her fairy godmother curse on Nora, which was an unexpected twist. The former looked much, much better in black while the fairy godmother gown certainly didn’t do anything for Nora. Mona’s lycanthropy actually turns out to be plot-relevant. First, Wolfie bites off Gary’s demon nipple. Then Neray uses her to convince everyone to download his evil app. The wolf effect is still pretty bad though. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/89 "2019-05-14T15:01:28Z")
Speaking of the book club, the book was “The Collector” with an author’s name of “Neil Lachance”. “The Collector” was actually written by John Fowles. Anybody have an idea what this was all about? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/90 "2019-05-20T13:56:30Z")
Hey, World! promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/RMIpmJ8ytYE) Hey, World! scene: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/1BpJhMtyH3E) Inside Hey, World!: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/AKjJ3DAB-So) **SEASON FINALE** - _While on a mission to find Ray, Constantine and Nora discover Neron’s evil plan. Nate convinces the Legends to think outside the box and suggests a dangerous plan to unite magical creatures and people to save the world._ ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/91 "2019-05-21T04:51:53Z")
That was a much better finale than a certain other show that also had a dragon in it. Granted, that other show’s dragon was much better animated, but that’s only because they had a much bigger budget. Legends are still throwing shade at their own show, bringing back Vandal Savage in hell. He’s actually a nice guy if you get to know him, and if you can get past that whole “immortal mass murderer” thing. They’re also still throwing shade on the other shows for being excluded from the crossover. The Monitor showed up at end and shook his head at their antics as if to say, “Good thing I excluded them that last time we saved the Multiverse.” Then he started munching on popcorn. “Maybe I can find a use for them in the coming Crisis.” So Zari has changed the future and her own personal timeline. Without an A.R.G.U.S.-led anti-metahuman pogrom, her brother still has the Air Totem, is never killed, and it’s he who joins the Legends. Does this mean Tala Ashe is leaving the show? Zari is still around, but she’s undoubtedly different now. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/92 "2019-05-21T12:19:48Z")
Interestingly silly finale that was at the same time entertaining. They have almost eliminated the 4th wall, they might as well take the next step next year and be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/93 "2019-05-22T12:07:30Z")
The season 4 finale was, in fact, the last episode of _Legends_ this year. The show is not in the CW’s fall lineup, but rather will return in 2020. The presence of the Monitor in the finale indicates that the Legends will be included in the crossover. How can this be when the crossover happens at the end of the year? The CW has [announced](https://tvline.com/2019/05/16/arrowverses-crisis-on-infinite-earths-crossover-schedule-legends/) that the crossover will take place in five parts over two quarters. In other words, both _Legends_ and _Batwoman_ will be included and there’ll be a cliffhanger in December, to be resolved when the shows resume (or start in the case of _Legends_) early next year. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/94 "2019-05-22T14:40:39Z")
I’ll never listen to “Sweet Baby James” quite the same way again. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/95 "2019-05-23T04:32:18Z")
That was a fun finale. The Heyworld commercial with Sara as Supergirl and Gary as Flash was funny. I was finally starting to like Zari, and now she’s erased. I hope not permanently. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/96 "2019-05-23T11:37:55Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I was finally starting to like Zari, and now she’s erased. I hope not permanently. I read an interview which said that the actress will be back, but not as the Zari we know. This is good, 'cause \*damn \*is she hot. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974/97 "2019-05-23T14:46:28Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I’ll never listen to “Sweet Baby James” quite the same way again. I’ll admit I teared up a bit at that scene. > [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Legends are still throwing shade at their own show, bringing back Vandal Savage in hell. He’s actually a nice guy if you get to know him, and if you can get past that whole “immortal mass murderer” thing. So it looks like next season is going to be about the worst of the worst coming back from hell. I would love if Savage got resurrected only to come back as a good guy. > [@Lightnin](#): > > I read an interview which said that the actress will be back, but not as the Zari we know. Baby dragon is still out there right? Maybe she’ll be a dragon rider. I’m guessing part of the plot next season will be Nate realizing that something is off with the timeline and trying to bring old Zari back. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/legends-of-tomorrow-season-4/822974.md?page=4)