# Lekatt, if one could sell ignorance, you'd be Walmart

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587 "2003-08-25T20:10:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/21 "2003-08-26T01:13:42Z")

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Bosda:

[Hey, he can get one for free!](http://home.planetinternet.be/~bliek/drew-page/cluefr-white.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/22 "2003-08-26T01:34:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by appletreats \*  
> \*\*[Here’s a much better book for **lekatt** …](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1587211351/qid=1061845747/sr=1-18/ref=sr_1_18/104-3774231-2351119?v=glance&s=books) \*\*

[Actually, I would go for this one.](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/030681188X/qid=1061862089/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-1490846-3924728?v=glance&s=books)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/23 "2003-08-26T02:57:20Z")

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Well, he’s not bad when he goes up against **His4ever/lynn73** types.

Other than that-harmless kook.

Mildly entertaining. I’d give him a five.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/24 "2003-08-26T03:09:19Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
\*\*I’m honestly perplexed about why **lekatt** is still here.

[list=1][li]He’s a known kook, as evidenced by **Mtgman** ’s link.[/li][li]He adds nothing to the board except disinformation and frustration.[/li][li]He is impervious to rational discussion.[/li][li]He hijacks threads that were going perfectly well before he polluted them.[/li][li]Evicting him would feed his martyrdom complex. He’d feel vindicated, and we’d be rid of him. Win-win![/list=1]He’s the **Jack Dean Tyler** of dewy-eyed brainless Bible-waving bullshit. Why, _WHY_, is he still here? \*\*[/li][/QUOTE]

Well, I guess it’s because he’s not a jerk (he may be many things but I’ve never seen him be particularly jerkish). Also, he is his own worst enemy, anyone reading his debates with half a brain can see that his opinions are severely flawed. Those who can’t see that are probably too far gone down the path of unenlightenment to worry about.

Doc Cathode, on the other hand, is a real gem.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/25 "2003-08-26T04:27:46Z")

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Of course, **SimonX** , myself and others [have been trying to get the terms “to Lekatt” or “Lekatting” to take off](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169316) , but with little success so far.

Personally I think Lekatt’s efforts are so above and beyond the call of ordinary kookiness that I think he deserves to have an SDMB in-joke named after him, but it remains up to you, dear dopers, to decide in the court of popular usage whether that occurs.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/26 "2003-08-26T06:33:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Skogcat \*  
> **Well, I guess it’s because he’s not a jerk (he may be many things but I’ve never seen him be particularly jerkish).**

Well, yes, but eventually the sheer waste of bandwidth becomes more than a little grating.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/27 "2003-08-26T07:24:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> \*\*Well, yes, but eventually the sheer waste of bandwidth becomes more than a little grating. \*\*

I find him quite amusing. I also find him to be a little pathetic and sad.

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**Author:** ![Publius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@Publius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Publius)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/28 "2003-08-26T07:45:47Z")

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I wasn’t quite sure what to make of this:

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> \*Originally posted by lekatt \*  
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> No one, theists, atheists, _lumberjacks_, etc., can change the world. T\*\*

Please tell me I wasn’t the only person to think of a certain Monty Python sketch upon reading that.

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> \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \*  
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> Although I’m starting to suspect a worldwide conspiracy of Publiuses… er… Publii… um… lotsoyou. \*\*

Wow, you’ve just made me realize that I have no idea what to call more than one Publius. I’ve always assumed I was the only one. Frankly, the idea that there’s more than one of me out there is a pretty scary thought.

I’m not going to be able to sleep tonight.

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**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/29 "2003-08-26T10:03:02Z")

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Publii, possibly?

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/30 "2003-08-26T10:48:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by andros \*  
> \*\*I’ve always found him to be pretty harmless. A kook, sure. But rarely an asshole kook, and easy to ignore. \*\*

Part of the problem is that he’ll jump into a perfectly nice thread and pull out his old, tired and repeatedly debunked claim that life after death has been proven in controlled scientific studies. Every single time this happens someone _has_ to do the routine boring debunking all over again, lest a new poster see it and not recognize it for the blivvit it is. Waste of bandwidth, waste of energy, source of frustration.

I say toss him. He’s provided all the entertainment value he ever will.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/31 "2003-08-26T11:00:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Skogcat \*  
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> Doc Cathode, on the other hand, is a real gem. \*\*

Thank you.  
I believe Lekatt should be banned for his deliberate attempts at spreading ignorance. He embodies everything the Straight Dope was created to fight.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/32 "2003-08-26T13:01:26Z")

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**Singular** : Publius.

**Plural** : Latin: Publii; English: Publiuses.

Although the Latin looks like you’re dribbling soup, and the English raises the dread spector of the plural possessive.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/33 "2003-08-26T13:20:50Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
\*\*I’m honestly perplexed about why **lekatt** is still here.

[list=1][li]He’s a known kook, as evidenced by **Mtgman** ’s link.[/li][li]He adds nothing to the board except disinformation and frustration.[/li][li]He is impervious to rational discussion.[/li][li]He hijacks threads that were going perfectly well before he polluted them.[/li][li]Evicting him would feed his martyrdom complex. He’d feel vindicated, and we’d be rid of him. Win-win![/list=1]He’s the **Jack Dean Tyler** of dewy-eyed brainless Bible-waving bullshit. Why, _WHY_, is he still here? \*\*[/li][/QUOTE]

I think the last item is pretty close. He is a pathetic attention whore dying for attention and the chance to witness for his kooky beliefs on the off-chance it may validated his shallow existance. No matter how many times he is caught posting lies he will continue. Sadly, pitting him seems to do no good. In fact, he probably loves the attention.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/34 "2003-08-26T13:23:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DocCathode \*  
> \*\*I believe Lekatt should be banned for his deliberate attempts at spreading ignorance. He embodies everything the Straight Dope was created to fight. \*\*

I don’t really disagree with your ultimate conclusion but I don’t think that Lekatt is a troll. I don’t think he is deliberately spreading ignorance. I think he believes the dribble that he types.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/35 "2003-08-26T15:06:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> \*\*Well, yes, but eventually the sheer waste of bandwidth becomes more than a little grating. \*\*

. . . he says in the Pit.  
😃

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/36 "2003-08-26T15:18:00Z")

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Lots of people believe the dribble they type. Some of that dribble is founded in ignorance and can be, and should be IMHO, fought. Some people refuse to listen and re-evaluate the basis of their dribble. At this point it becomes willful ignorance. My dear friend **lekatt** has been a bastion of willful ignorance for a very long time now. While I don’t advocate banning the ignorant, I’m much less sure about the willfully ignorant.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/37 "2003-08-26T15:33:50Z")

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I agree with Princhester, which is why I’m so patient with him. He’s ignorance, we fight it. Slooooowwwly.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/38 "2003-08-26T16:06:22Z")

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**Mtgman** - I almost used the phrase “willful ignorance”. Yes Lekatt believes what he types. I never questioned that. It’s his refusal to answer questions, his continuing use of strawmen, posts that contradict other posts, his repeated postings of claims shown to be false, and his debating stance of sticking his fingers in his ears and chanting “La la la la la! I’m not listening!”

I remember a poster ( OTOMH BZ000) who asked how much energy you would need to make the earth rotate backwards and thus reverse time-just like in Superman.

Various posters attempted to educate BZ on basic physics. One Doper even suggested a book. He said that if BZ would read it, he would be happy to answer any questions BZ had. A new thread was started. BZ had bought the book, he posted genuine questions and various Dopers provided facts and answers.(IIRC he ended getting banned quickly, though I can’t recall why)

His first post showed no knowledge of physics. But after his error was explained to him, he made a genuine effort to learn.

Lekatt, OTOH, continues to repeat the same debunked claims he made in his first thread. He continues to attack the same straw men. He continues to show the same deliberate close-mindedness.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/39 "2003-08-26T16:27:20Z")

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I’d be surprised if **Lekatt** had left already.

**Doc** ,  
You are a jewel in the crown of the SDMB.

Leroy, have you heard from your brother Kenneth yet?

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-if-one-could-sell-ignorance-youd-be-walmart/197587/40 "2003-08-26T16:33:32Z")

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I’d be surprised if **Lekatt** had left already.

**Doc** ,  
You are a jewel in the crown of the SDMB.

Leroy, have you heard from your brother Kenneth yet?

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