# lekatt is leaving **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2004, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816 "2004-06-23T16:30:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/61 "2004-06-24T15:19:28Z")
> [@lambchops](#): > > No, **Snakespirit** was actually heavily involved with the Astral Projection trainwreck in GD a month or so back. IIRC, he was the OP. He was arguing on the same side as **lekatt** , insofar as that is possible. i would challenge whether it was ever possible to be on **lekatt** ’s side. He/she/it had an odd little trick: whenever somebody would agree with He/she/it, **lekatt** _would narrow the definitions of his/her/its beliefs to exclude the potential ally._ Then ignore the “narrowing” when it became inconvienent later on. An odd trick of self-sabotage. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/62 "2004-06-24T15:28:22Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I do remember that he used to annoy **His4ever**. That’s ONE good point in his favor. Well, yes, but **His4ever** could get annoyed by tall grass, so… ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/63 "2004-06-24T16:01:39Z")
As the opener of the thread which apprently drove **lekatt** off (but he’s said the same before, mind) I feel a little regret. I tried to explore his worldiew as rigorously as possible, addressing every citation no matter how kooky. In the end, I think he became rather uncomfortable and frustrated with _me_ and used **Czarcasm** ’s IMO slightly overly caustic comments as a convenient excuse for martyrdom. I think we might, just _might_, have been getting somewhere with the neuroscience-explains-mind like electronics-explains-computers analogy. I don’t think he liked that at all. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/64 "2004-06-24T16:09:11Z")
> [@SentientMeat](#): > > I think we might, just _might_, have been getting somewhere with the neuroscience-explains-mind like electronics-explains-computers analogy. I don’t think he liked that at all. You’re a true optimist. When faced with absolute evidence that he’s wrong, **lekatt** ignores it. Or disappears, as he’s done now. ---
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/65 "2004-06-24T22:53:48Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > They weren’t combat records, for what it’s worth. Anyhow, can you back this assertion up with anything? Why are military records more screwed up than any others? And why did you snip out the rest of my post? What about the technical inconsistencies and the inconsistencies with observed reality? > > I take it you still haven’t read any of **lekatt** ’s past misdeeds. If you knew him as well as we do, you wouldn’t be hanging around here, defending the lunatic. OK, **Price** , one thing at a time. 1. ``` I back it up with research I've done over the past 15 years into VietNam-era military records. First-hand accounts of significant incidents often agree more with one another than with 'official' military records. ``` 2. ``` Because most of the time the records are kept by ameteurs with no record-keeping training. Combat units used to get company clerks by lining up incoming troops and asking, "Do any of you know how to type?" If you said yes, you were the new company clerk and chief record keeper. Also, when a unit is moving from one location to another records get lost. People go on sick call and are never heard from again, until their assignment to a new unit is made. The old unit is not always notified, though there are procedures in place to do that. Sometimes when the choice is "save the records" or "save your ass" the ass wins. ``` 3. ``` I snipped the rest of your post because I had no comment on the parts I snipped. ``` 4. ``` Someone else is free to address the other issues; I only had my 2¢. ``` 5. ``` I've read only about half of **lekatt**'s stuff. Quite enough to know enough about him to know better. Actually, I'm not defending him, except as an example. I'm defending open discourse. Too often I have seen the effect that ridicule, intolerance, hatred, ignorance and the like has on human discourse, human development, human history and freedom. ``` Nothing personal. ---
**Author:** ![Edlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8797f3/32.png) [@Edlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edlyn)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/66 "2004-06-25T01:31:22Z")
Reading this thread reinforced why I only visit this board when I’m really, really bored and Pogo is busy. I rather like Lekatt and found other posters behaviour towards him quite dreadful at times. I don’t think anyone deserves to be treated like that. I really don’t. Take care Lekatt. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/67 "2004-06-25T02:05:31Z")
Adios Jerkoff. I didn’t really have any run-ins with lekatt, and could care less if he stays or goes, but i’m pissed off today, so… ---
**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/68 "2004-06-25T03:12:53Z")
Rejoice. Since my registration here Lekatt is the _only_ person I’ve even thought about pitting. The only reason I didn’t was because by the time I was done reading his dribble I was too mad to even type out a coherent thought. And this is coming from someone who has only read one debate which he has participated in. I felt like ringing his neck eveytime I saw his “Love” sig. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/69 "2004-06-25T04:18:17Z")
Having dealt with **Lekatt** before (in the thread that must never be named), I finally decided there was no point. At first, I hated the idea of him getting the last word in, but really, it doesn’t matter. It always amuses me to see him post because he’s so predictable, so in a way I’ll miss him until he comes back. I’m sure he _will_ come back, because he’s like a human car wreck. He always pops up sooner or later, and causes a gaper’s delay when he does. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/70 "2004-06-25T05:45:52Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > **Excalibre** , I haven’t read those threads. Were his posts off topic or were they related enough to the subject at hand that he was able to repeatedly hijack the topic? > > Or was it something else that wouldn’t quite fit into the category of jerkish behavior? They had nothing to do with evolution. They were rants so vague as to be meaningless about how scientists are trying to oppress anyone with spiritual beliefs. It was not helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/71 "2004-06-25T06:47:01Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Most of the “data” he advanced in support of his views on NDEs appears to be spurious. No added value, IMO. That’s dead wrong. He consistently cites well-known and well-documented cases. Which is not to say that _everything_ he cites is well-known and -documented. Lekatt is a decent fellow, but he is not a great debater. But I don’t think he really tries to “debate”–he is more of a sharer. I also personally like most or all of the skeptics on this board, but they can get quite nasty when debating “paranormal topics.” Lekett’s posting style and theirs are like oil and water. It is tricky when someone is modding and debating at once. Czarcasm does better than most would, and he is overall a very good moderator, but I too have found it a little tricky to participate in debates when he’s playing both roles. I also doubt that Lekatt is gone for good. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2004, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816/72 "2004-06-25T12:32:02Z")
> [@](#): > > That’s dead wrong. He consistently cites well-known and well-documented cases. Which is not to say that everything he cites is well-known and -documented. Well, I was stating my general impression, not a detailed analysis, but it wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong about something. By contrast, admitting that possibility is something our boy seemed to have great trouble doing. Anyway, I had no particular axe to grind with him, hence my reaction being pretty much a shrug, rather than one of the more forceful responses in this thread. Gotta confess , though, that “Woohoo!” post cracked me up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lekatt-is-leaving/251816.md?page=3)