# Leno/Conan Shakeup at NBC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 7, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073 "2010-01-07T21:31:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/681 "2010-01-22T22:37:16Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Conan lost advertising money, period, end of story. He’s no different then any other entertainer on television. If you can’t generate the numbers, you get replaced. Conan lost money, Leno lost money from advertising for the affiliates. You can’t generate the numbers you lose your job. Leno had a large payout if his contract was breached, Conan didn’t. Cheaper way to resolve the whole issue is can Conan and get Jay to agree to a renegotiated contract. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/682 "2010-01-22T22:43:45Z")
> [@BMada](#): > > Conan lost money, Leno lost money from advertising for the affiliates. You can’t generate the numbers you lose your job. Leno had a large payout if his contract was breached, Conan didn’t. Cheaper way to resolve the whole issue is can Conan and get Jay to agree to a renegotiated contract. What are you talking about. $30 million was a huge golden parachute for Conan. ---
**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/683 "2010-01-22T22:45:04Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > What are you talking about. $30 million was a huge golden parachute for Conan. i believe if they let Jay go it woulda been a payout of $100million. hence the “cheaper” choice. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/684 "2010-01-23T00:59:50Z")
> [@BMada](#): > > i believe if they let Jay go it woulda been a payout of $100million. hence the “cheaper” choice. So you only have room for one late night host and Leno produces better commercial revenue then the correct decision is? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/685 "2010-01-23T04:42:05Z")
“Quiet down folks. We have exactly one hour to steal everything in this studio.” Lovely. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/686 "2010-01-23T04:59:02Z")
Haven’t chimed in until now, but I have to say I love Leno and hate Conan, so I won’t miss him. I’m also having a hard time feeling sorry for a guy who, for 7 months of work, will never have to work again. Leno will once again win the late night ratings war, as Letterman sucks as well. Carson was such a class act. When he was done, he walked away and never popped up again. This last week, Conan has been acting like a baby, whining and crying at every opportunity. For the cash buyout he’s getting, he should be on his knees blowing everyone at NBC. Never liked him, won’t miss him. Leno makes money for NBC at 11:30. Conan didn’t. Get over it, Conan. it’s a business decision, nothing more. I wish I could get booted from my job with the parachute this crybaby got. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/687 "2010-01-23T05:05:48Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > You do know Conan is in his late 40s, right? Jon Stewart is 47 but he attracts a younger demographic because of his incisive remarks and zany antics. It’s all in the flourish. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/688 "2010-01-23T05:08:24Z")
is “restricted NFL footage” real or something Conan made up ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/689 "2010-01-23T05:08:26Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I’m also having a hard time feeling sorry for a guy who, for 7 months of work, will never have to work again. His earnings from 15 years of Late Night have to be _far_ more than $33 million, so he probably hasn’t had to work in 10 years. In any case, this episode is good so far, but the montage should have been at the end, not near the beginning. I liked the exit interview and the topper to the money-wasting bits was solid. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/690 "2010-01-23T05:11:49Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > His earnings from 15 years of Late Night have to be _far_ more than $33 million, so he probably hasn’t had to work in 10 years. In any case, this episode is good so far, but the montage should have been at the end, not near the beginning. I liked the exit interview and the topper to the money-wasting bits was solid. True enough. But he really seems to be “hurt”. Like his feelings have been bruised. I don’t think this is an act, which is why I find it so pathetic and sad. I guess his fragile ego just can’t take the rejection. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/691 "2010-01-23T05:14:25Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > True enough. > > But he really seems to be “hurt”. Like his feelings have been bruised. I don’t think this is an act, which is why I find it so pathetic and sad. > > I guess his fragile ego just can’t take the rejection. He had his dream job and he lost it. We relocated his entire staff across the country and they are all out of work. He isn’t allowed to be upset? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/692 "2010-01-23T05:15:31Z")
The bit with Steve Carell was comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/693 "2010-01-23T05:16:35Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > He had his dream job and he lost it. We relocated his entire staff across the country and they are all out of work. He isn’t allowed to be upset? Seriously. You don’t do “late night talk show host” for the money. You do it because you enjoy it. Plus he’s responsible for lots of other people. It’s not just him getting canned. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/694 "2010-01-23T05:18:57Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > We relocated his entire staff across the country and they are all out of work. I iterated this position way upthread before the deal was struck, but now that it’s official I want to repeat myself. Conan played that sympathy card about the crew heavily on the show, and now that he’s getting a $45 million payday let’s see how much of it he shares with them and their poor, relocated families. I’m just dying to find out. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/695 "2010-01-23T05:21:23Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > I iterated this position way upthread before the deal was struck, but now that it’s official I want to repeat myself. Conan played that sympathy card about the crew heavily on the show, and now that he’s getting a $45 million payday let’s see how much of it he shares with them and their poor, relocated families. > > I’m just dying to find out. He’s paid their wages out of pocket before. Most notably during the writer’s strike, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/696 "2010-01-23T05:22:36Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > But he really seems to be “hurt”. Like his feelings have been bruised. I don’t think this is an act, which is why I find it so pathetic and sad. > > I guess his fragile ego just can’t take the rejection. I’m sure they were, and why wouldn’t they be? But as far as I’m concerned he’s taken it very well and he’s made some very funny jokes out of it. > [@Rigamarole](#): > > I iterated this position way upthread before the deal was struck, but now that it’s official I want to repeat myself. Conan played that sympathy card about the crew heavily on the show, and now that he’s getting a $45 million payday let’s see how much of it he shares with them and their poor, relocated families. > > I’m just dying to find out. According to all the reports from the other day, he’s getting $33 million and $12 million is going to the staff and crew. ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/697 "2010-01-23T05:23:42Z")
Jay Leno is a talentless hack who doesn’t have an original thought or joke in his body. I hope all of you 65-year old AARP members enjoy him when he returns. Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/698 "2010-01-23T05:24:05Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > I iterated this position way upthread before the deal was struck, but now that it’s official I want to repeat myself. Conan played that sympathy card about the crew heavily on the show, and now that he’s getting a $45 million payday let’s see how much of it he shares with them and their poor, relocated families. > > I’m just dying to find out. [$12 million.](http://sify.com/movies/hollywood/fullstory.php?id=14928428) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/699 "2010-01-23T05:30:11Z")
Say what you will about the man but that speech shows what a class act he is. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073/700 "2010-01-23T05:30:22Z")
Listen at Conan being all sincere and classy and raw and honest! Go, Coco! It’s your birthday! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leno-conan-shakeup-at-nbc/524073.md?page=36)