# Les Miles kicks Honey Badger off the team. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105 "2012-08-10T18:03:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/1 "2012-08-10T18:03:34Z")
[Story Here](http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/08/tyrann-honey-badger-mathieu-has-been-kicked-off-the-lsu-football-team) Twitter-verse going nuts. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/2 "2012-08-10T18:30:07Z")
Honey Badger don’t care. Wow. What are the rumors behind the “rule violation”? ---
**Author:** ![PacifistPorcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PacifistPorcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PacifistPorcupine)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/3 "2012-08-10T18:34:34Z")
Does he have to sit out a year if he transfers or will he be playing this season? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/4 "2012-08-10T18:35:35Z")
Apparently he was caught going to class. (Go Big 10!) ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/5 "2012-08-10T18:55:14Z")
So what do you think he [did](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/sports/ncaafootball/tyrann-mathieu-is-off-louisiana-states-football-team.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/6 "2012-08-10T19:18:41Z")
Third failed drug test. Automatically dropped from the team, even at LSU. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/7 "2012-08-10T19:26:20Z")
Ah, the devil weed! He WAS suspended one game last year, wasn’t he? Why the hell is that even an issue, BTW? Weed isn’t a performance enhancer, and no one I know of had ever gotten stoned on cannabis and found naked in the middle of the road by teenagers in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/8 "2012-08-10T19:31:30Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > Ah, the devil weed! He WAS suspended one game last year, wasn’t he? > > Why the hell is that even an issue, BTW? Weed isn’t a performance enhancer, and no one I know of had ever gotten stoned on cannabis and found naked in the middle of the road by teenagers in the morning. It’s still illegal. Which means that to obtain it, you associate with people who are criminals(and not just selling weed). That’s generally something colleges wish their student-athletes to avoid. Also,drug use goes against the concept of athletic training. ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/9 "2012-08-10T19:38:04Z")
The school has a written policy. He consistently failed. They tried to help him many times, but I guess it comes down to he’d rather get high than play football at a D-1 school. One with a great chance at a National Championship and that puts him in the running for the Heisman. He’d just rather smoke dope. I say this with a heavy heart, as a die-hard LSU fan. I’m going to miss my Honey Badger. But it had to be done. > [@](#): > > The policy is a written policy. It’s like the speed limit, if you are going over the speed limit, you’re breaking the law. He’s been over the speed limit. As in, he’s been over it a lot." > > Asked if it was a legal issue, as in a law violation, or just policy, Alleva said, “policy,” and added that LSU made efforts to counsel Mathieu. > > “We do everything we can to help these kids. He’s had help and we’ve been trying to help him all along in everything,” Alleva said. “Being an athlete is a privilege. You have to follow the rules to take advantage of that privilege and unfortunately, he doesn’t have that privilege here any more. He’s a good kid. He really is a good kid, it’s a shame. But I told him this morning, that he has the rest of his life. His life is still ahead of him. He still has an opportunity to do good things.” ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/10 "2012-08-10T19:38:14Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > It’s still illegal. Which means that to obtain it, you associate with people who are criminals(and not just selling weed). I.e., the majority of attendees at a typical LSU home game? C’mon. **divemaster** , thanks for the quote above. It does hint at some compassion shown. It does sound like Alleva thought it was on the BS side, too, though. Maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/11 "2012-08-10T19:43:21Z")
I don’t think it was as much “Les Miles kicked him off the team” as it was the breaking of team and school rules necessitated his removal. Miles didn’t have any choice in the matter. > [@PacifistPorcupine](#): > > Does he have to sit out a year if he transfers or will he be playing this season? If he drops down a division, he can play this year. If he transfers to another FBS school, he’d have to sit out a year. Odds are, he’ll sign on with some D1-AA school for this year and then enter the draft. Hopefully he can get his act together b/c he’ll soon realize NFL teams are loathe to take on persistent drug and/or character issues ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/12 "2012-08-10T19:52:03Z")
Well, FAU will have a hell of a team this year, what with Duron Carter _and_ Tyrann Mathieu. I wouldn’t worry about your team very much, divemaster. You still have a hell of a defensive backfield. As for Tyrann, he’ll get a shot at the NFL next year, pretty much no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/13 "2012-08-10T19:53:57Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Well, FAU will have a hell of a team this year, what with Duron Carter _and_ Tyrann Mathieu… Doesn’t Mathieu have to sit out a year? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/14 "2012-08-10T19:56:33Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Doesn’t Mathieu have to sit out a year? Yeah, it was just a joke about high-profile washouts. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/15 "2012-08-10T20:05:13Z")
The honey badger don’t give a fuck!! I guess it’s true… kid is an idiot… you can’t risk your future for either a couple of dollars or some weed… Seriously… who’s talking to these kids… ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/16 "2012-08-10T20:07:13Z")
Their friends. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/17 "2012-08-10T20:23:59Z")
Is there any possible way that he can sign an NFL Contract? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/18 "2012-08-10T20:29:34Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Is there any possible way that he can sign an NFL Contract? Not this year. NFL rules state three years out of high school. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/19 "2012-08-10T23:49:34Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Doesn’t Mathieu have to sit out a year? He can play right away if he goes to a school in Division II - sorry, FCS or whatever it is this week - and has to sit out a year if he wants to stay for another Division I/FBS school. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/les-miles-kicks-honey-badger-off-the-team/631105/20 "2012-08-11T00:11:47Z")
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