# Lesbians chosen high school's "cutest couple"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 17, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434 "2002-12-17T22:36:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/22 "2002-12-21T04:23:06Z")

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Only if you link, **Kezermezer**.

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/23 "2002-12-21T04:26:36Z")

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\*I obviously wasn’t the one who penned the phrase, but IMHO it would have actual meaning as a sig other than the online equivalent of T-shirts that say I’m so surrounded by idiots if the subject was linked to.

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**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/24 "2002-12-21T05:57:59Z")

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🙂

I’ve had the warm fuzzies since reading this story at Planetout. Things have changed so much in such a short time.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/25 "2002-12-21T07:11:48Z")

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Lesbians are incredibly, overwhelmingly, super extra godzilla popular, what’s new?  
The kids that walked out of class probably just did it because they wanted to be the lesbian’s friends. I swear to god, I’ve never even _heard of_ lesbians being treated as anything less than goddesses outside of these boards. And no, I’m not just talking about gorgeous lipstick lesbians.

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/26 "2002-12-21T22:59:39Z")

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Spot on, **Cisco**.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/27 "2002-12-22T03:59:20Z")

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Oh really, **Cisco**? Try telling that to [Sharon Bottoms](http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/virginia/vanews29.htm) who lost custody of her child to _her own mother_ because she is a lesbian.

Or how about the mother in the [case in Alabama this year](http://www.actwin.com/eatonohio/gay/scalabama.html) wherein a California mother lost custody to her ex-husband. Alabama Chief justice Roy Moore wrote that the mother’s relationship made her an unfit parent and that homosexuality is “abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature.”

What about [Mary Ward](http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/96_columns/121096.htm) who lost custody of her daughter to the girl’s father despite he was a **convicted murderer**.

When Tampa police officer [Lois Marerro](http://www.weeklyplanet.com/2002-07-17/news_feature.html) was killed in the line of duty, her long-time partner was denied her pension.

I could go on, but I’ll just point you to [this website](http://www.lambdalegal.org/cgi-bin/iowa/documents/record?record=31). Or just read the [Gaybashing thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=135183) for some more real life examples.

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/28 "2002-12-22T04:18:56Z")

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Yes all those things are horrible and they do happen even to lesbians, but I can’t think of anything from the Gaybashing thread or personal recollection of anything happening to lesbians in highschool. All the highschool trauma tales are from gay boys. Hmm.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/29 "2002-12-22T04:20:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cisco \*  
> **The kids that walked out of class probably just did it because they wanted to be the lesbian’s friends.**

You’re, of course, going to give some kind of reason for that suspicion, right?

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/30 "2002-12-22T04:23:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Blackeyes \*  
> \*\*Yes all those things are horrible and they do happen even to lesbians, but I can’t think of anything from the Gaybashing thread or personal recollection of anything happening to lesbians in highschool. All the highschool trauma tales are from gay boys. Hmm. \*\*

OK… so let’s assume that nothing bad ever happens to lesbians in high school. Based on that, what’s your beef with the OP?

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/31 "2002-12-22T04:25:58Z")

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Whah, oh? Oh, nothing. The OP is good. I was just responding to **Homebrew** s reply to what **Cisco** said. In support of **Cisco**.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/32 "2002-12-22T04:28:05Z")

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> All the highschool trauma tales are from gay boys. Hmm.

In the gaybashing thread, **andygirl** , a lesbian, posted this:

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> In high school: I was very frequently slammed against lockers… My bookbag got spat on now and then. There were boys who would follow me around in the hallways calling me the entire gamut of names- faggot, dyke, lezzie, you name it…My freshman year some of the boys around me would frequently talk about how raping lesbians shouldn’t be a sin because lesbians needed to be “taught a lesson.”… one day four of them cornered me after school. I’d rather not think about what might have happened if a teacher hadn’t come around and I’d gotten away. … Not that the teachers tended to care, mind you. If people starting talking about how much they hated queers in class, … most teachers never said anything. Or they would participate in gaybashing- nothing quite like your social science teacher admitting that he understood why people would want to firebomb gay bars. And then there’s the more subtle stuff. I’m a Christian, and in my freshman year I was one of the founding members of an after-school Bible study group. A year later I was thrown out of it. …This same group of people did not take kindly to Jennifer and I dating. At one point they decided to perform an exorcism on us to cast out our homosexual demons.

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/33 "2002-12-22T04:33:09Z")

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I stand corrected, **matt\_mcl**. I was wrong for over-generalizing.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/34 "2002-12-22T04:43:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Blackeyes \*  
> \*\*Whah, oh? Oh, nothing. The OP is good. I was just responding to **Homebrew** s reply to what **Cisco** said. In support of **Cisco**. \*\*

Well, Cisco obviously has a beef with the OP, and you were supporting him.

But, given your last post, I guess it’s all moot. Carry on, no harm, no foul.

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**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/35 "2002-12-22T05:07:58Z")

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god forbid anybody says anything disparaging about lesbians :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/36 "2002-12-22T05:15:17Z")

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What’s that, **Incubus**?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/37 "2002-12-22T05:19:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Troy McClure SF \*  
> \*\*Well, Cisco obviously has a beef with the OP, and you were supporting him.
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I have beef with the OP? No, not at all, I don’t know where you got that idea. I was just stating an opinion based on personal observation.

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> **You’re, of course, going to give some kind of reason for that suspicion, right?**

Sure. Personal experience. Lesbians got flocked around in my high school and college and afterwards at work and in social environments.

I’ve never known a lesbian who wasn’t liked and these were obviously very good looking “lipstick” lesbians which makes the case even more extreme.

How does any of this translate into me having “beef” with the OP? I just don’t think it’s shocking or unusual.

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**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/38 "2002-12-22T05:20:29Z")

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> Sure. Personal experience. Lesbians got flocked around in my high school and college and afterwards at work and in social environments.
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> I’ve never known a lesbian who wasn’t liked and these were obviously very good looking “lipstick” lesbians which makes the case even more extreme.

ditto.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-chosen-high-schools-cutest-couple/143434/39 "2002-12-22T05:59:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Homebrew \*  
> I just wanted to share a story that made me smile.

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> _Originally posted by Cisco_  
> The kids that walked out of class probably just did it because they wanted to be the lesbian’s friends.

Seems like you wanted to rain on **Homebrew** ’s parade by denouncing the credibility of the poll’s result. Perhaps “beef with the OP” was too harsh.

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> _Originally posted by Cisco_  
> Lesbians got flocked around in my high school and college and afterwards at work and in social environments.  
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> I just don’t think it’s shocking or unusual.

That doesn’t have anything to do with the OP. And it wasn’t supposed to be shocking or unusual. Just to “make us smile.”

The OP is pointing out a step in the fight against ignorance. While in your high school, the same result may have been expected, in mine, it’d be a much different story (in San Francisco, no less.) I don’t see any point in trying to “debunk” the story in the OP. I’m not trying to say you’re a jerk or anything, or invite you to the Pit, but your comments just seem out of place. Why should lesbians-in-general’s popularity take away from the couple being so cute?

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