# Lesbians in the porno industry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 11, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177 "2008-07-11T20:18:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/21 "2008-07-12T07:30:14Z")

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[QUOTE=astorian]  
Mind you, straight male fantasy “lesbians” don’t bear much relation to reality.  
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And where exactly might one find porn that does bear some relation to reality?

Like “Real Teenage Sex,” a showcase of 20 full length scenes in a 20 minute video.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/22 "2008-07-12T11:58:15Z")

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[QUOTE=neutron star]  
How many incredibly sexy heterosexual porn starlets are interested in what you have to offer? 😃

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I don’t know, I’ve never asked. 😉  
Perhaps I should say “no theoretical interest in the general class of things that I have\* to offer”

[not necessarily mine, which as an individual unit may or may not interest them, not that it’s not nice in its own way], which I [or some other individual of my orientation] would have available to offer, [if I were offering it, which I’m not]. \*\*

\*\*void where prohibited, this offer does not constitute an offer.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/23 "2008-07-12T12:01:56Z")

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[QUOTE=gravitycrash]  
II seriously doubt that most of the more popular lesbian websites actually use real lesbians.  
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Did anybody else immediately see a cereal-box style package with a big red banner across the top and the phrase:

**NOW WITH REAL LESBIANS**

written on it? 'cause I did.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/24 "2008-07-12T13:33:36Z")

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I sometimes like lesbo-porn.

However two twentysomething year old girls making out in public places, _pretending_ to be bi, just to get the attention of any hard dicked men around; grates me to no end. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/25 "2008-07-12T13:36:05Z")

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[QUOTE=gravitycrash]  
**Astorian** you know you are going to catch hell for that, right? 😉  
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Somehow, I doubt that kd and Martina are heartbroken that they don’t turn me on! I hold even LESS interest for them, I’m sure.

My only point (small though it was) was that even we hetero males who’ve been turned on by the idea KNOW deep down what a silly fantasy it is.

Just as we know that the flirtatious 21 year old waitress at Hooters doesn’t REALLY have any interest in us.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/26 "2008-07-12T13:38:57Z")

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[QUOTE=samarm]  
Thinking about it fron the other perspective, would women be turned on by two guys going at it? I suspect not.  
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'Nother female Doper checking in. I don’t actively seek out gay porn (hell, the way I feel about sex these days I don’t actively seek out _any_ porn – I’m just too tired from moving), but I certainly enjoy what I find if I’m in the mood for certain kinds. I mean, as has been stated many a time before on these boards, if one hot guy is good, wouldn’t two hot guys together be better? 😃

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/27 "2008-07-12T13:44:05Z")

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I was hoping the OP might have been calling for a ban on it. Isn’t it prejudicial against long-term single males, or something??

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/28 "2008-07-12T13:59:56Z")

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I like women.

[QUOTE=gravitycrash]  
And to be honest I seriously doubt that most of the more popular lesbian websites actually use real lesbians.  
[/QUOTE]  
Can’t believe I’m the first in the thread to recommend [www.abbywinters.com](http://www.abbywinters.com) Abby Winters . Apparently half the population of Melbourne is attractive, promiscuously bisexual young women. (And the other half is _lucky bastards!_)

Clearly fake lesbian scenes do nothing for me. (By “fake” I mean your standard porn “acting”.)

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/29 "2008-07-12T14:54:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
Can’t believe I’m the first in the thread to recommend Abby Winters.  
[/QUOTE]

I used to work there. Beautiful women parading in and out of the office, often in a state of minimal dress, was not uncommon. Going on shoots was even better.

[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
(And the other half is _lucky bastards!_)  
[/QUOTE]

Correct.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/30 "2008-07-12T15:00:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Cat Fight]  
I find it odder that there is so much dick in plenty of hetero porn aimed at men. How straight is it to be bombarded with extreme close-ups of another man’s cock?  
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Audience identification.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/31 "2008-07-12T15:00:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
I like women.

Can’t believe I’m the first in the thread to recommend Abby Winters.

[/QUOTE]

I’m sure that you are aware of this already, but [abby](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) is a member here.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/32 "2008-07-12T15:08:16Z")

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[QUOTE=pepperlandgirl]  
Missed the edit window, and I realized I should clarify. It’s not about touching literal boys, it’s abuot physical expressions between grown men…  
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\<stops having the heart attack that was building\>

Thank you for the clarification!  
I think **Zeriel** is right. I also agree with **astorian** , despite whatever grief he gets for it. Porn is a fantasy and serves as such, no matter hetero/homo etc. Martina and k.d. (does she have a real name?) are attractive, but they’re not exactly fantasy material (unless you’re into that sort of thing: ex tennis great with Lillith fair performer… there’s probably a market for it! 😉 ).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/33 "2008-07-12T16:00:49Z")

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> I just don’t get it. It’s like seeing two people enjoying themselves, and they have no interest in what I have to offer. Wait, it’s not like that, it is exactly that.

The women on the tape could be completely heterosexual. Heck, they could be asking for me by name. But what good does that do me? It’s a video.

If I’m going to just watch somebody having sex, I want to watch women.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/34 "2008-07-12T16:02:25Z")

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> does she have a real name?

Kathryn Dawn Lang

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/35 "2008-07-12T18:37:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
The women on the tape could be completely heterosexual. Heck, they could be asking for me by name. QUOTE]

Great idea.

You can get CDs of kid’s music where they insert your child’s (or more likely grandchild’s) name in the songs. Using the same theory, I see a niche market here, where one inserts the viewer’s name into the porn flick.

"Oh,\* **Little Nemo** , \* you’re delivering pizza! "

[Cue funky porn music]

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/36 "2008-07-12T19:41:06Z")

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[QUOTE=samarm]  
Also, I suspect that many of these “lesbians” in porno flicks are simply good at acting the part.  
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That’s funny, because I always suspected that many “lesbians” in porno flicks are unbelievably bad at acting the part. 😉

Something interesting I (as a hetrosexual man) have noticed is that while I prefer lesbians over het couples in professional produced porn, I don’t care nearly as much in amateur (or really convincing fake amateur) porn.

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**Author:** ![sunacres](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@sunacres](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunacres)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/37 "2008-07-12T21:53:01Z")

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[QUOTE=samarm]  
Thinking about it fron the other perspective, would women be turned on by two guys going at it? I suspect not.  
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I think you need more data, especially if even with your own perspective you have a sample size of zero. On the occasions when I’ve been in a postition to participate in relevant encounters, it has been made quite clear to me that sexual contact among the boys is of _great_ interest to the girls, regardless of their own orientations.

For many, if not most people, it’s all just fascinating!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/38 "2008-07-12T23:44:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Attack from the 3rd dimension]  
I have to agree with the OP on at least one point. I’ve never understood the interest that heterosexual men (and, to keep things clear, I’ll point out that I am a heterosexual man) have in lesbians in general, and lesbian porn in particular…  
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It’s not lesbian porn, it’s the girl-girl sex just before the guy shows up and joins in. It’s the idea that the guy will will be welcomed into the action once he and his studly penis stumble upon the scene.

And if it’s not about that, it’s about keeping up proficiencies while the man is away.

> [@](#):
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> If you can’t be with the love, love the one you’re with

– CSN

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/39 "2008-07-12T23:46:57Z")

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[QUOTE=samarm]  
Am I in the minority of people who don’t find this in the least bit attractive?  
[/QUOTE]

Yes, the vast minority. 🙂

I think the fantasy has to do with the idea that if YOU were there, you could get into the mix somehow and show these ladies how a REAL man (like the general YOU) could make them feel.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lesbians-in-the-porno-industry/456177/40 "2008-07-12T23:57:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
Can’t believe I’m the first in the thread to recommend Abby Winters .  
[/quote]  
Seconded. Or thirded. Or fourthed. I was a fan of her productions long before I knew she posted here. It’s actually the _only_ lesbian porn I’ve ever seen that didn’t seem the least bit fake, and that does a lot for me.

I’m not one of those guys who remembers porn star names or any names even associated with porn really, but, other than a couple hugely famous stars like Jenna Jamison, the only name in the industry that I actually know off the top of my head is that of Abby Winters.

Or, to put it another way, “A+++++++++++!! WOULD _FAP_ AGAIN~!!!”

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