# Let a Tragedy be a Tragedy, what are your thoughts on this statement? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 25, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526 "2018-02-25T05:25:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/41 "2018-02-26T19:01:19Z")
> [@BloodStalk](#): > > **the disrespectful victims** who are too young to know what they are talking about. Oh, so now he’s attacking the kids themselves? Whatever happened to that “Respect the victims” bit he was on about earlier? Clearly, he doesn’t actually give a crap about the victims, he’s just looking for an excuse to shut them up. Time to tell him to bugger off. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/42 "2018-02-26T19:13:43Z")
> [@BloodStalk](#): > > Moron said this: > > While I have not been there in person, but at least I am trying to respect the dead and not use their corpses as a platform for a forced and brainwashed political agenda. It’s 2018, we should grow up and learn that offensiveness is not something we should be policing. Said moron needs to accept that his position is also an “agenda”. The dead don’t have an opinion, but the people who lived through the tragedy–and the families of the people killed–have an opinion, and it’s a bit more informed his, given that they’re living directly with the effects of gun violence. He’s scared because this time the “agenda” seems to be gaining traction, finally. This has nothing to do with respecting the dead. It’s about using the dead to try to silence the living. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/43 "2018-02-26T19:18:48Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I think there is a slight difference. An airplane crash investigation usually isn’t very politicized, or politicized at all. Only because we don’t have a major political party that opposes airline safety regulations. If one party said stuff like “this is not the time to talk about airline safety,” “the only way to make air travel safer is to give airlines _more_ flexibility in aircraft maintenance” and “planes don’t crash, bad pilots do”, you can be sure that it will become politicized. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/44 "2018-02-26T19:21:00Z")
> [@BloodStalk](#): > > Should I continue to respond to this idiot or leave him? You’ve started at least one other thread about arguments/debates you’ve had on Twitter, Facebook, or some other social media. My sincere suggestion is that if you want to have a reasonable debate, don’t do it on those platforms. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/45 "2018-02-26T19:22:24Z")
Or with those antagonists. ---
**Author:** ![BloodStalk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee59a6/32.png) [@BloodStalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BloodStalk)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/46 "2018-02-26T19:47:15Z")
I’m not gonna try with this idiot. He believes Abe Lincoln fought for equality. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/47 "2018-02-26T20:22:15Z")
So the whole “Now is not the time to talk about gun control” is an amusing though silly rhetorical trick. Basically each time there’s a mass shooting, lots of the pro-gun politicians say this meaningless line, since essentially they don’t want to hold an argument when emotions are high and they are definitely going to lose. So what happens when mass shootings start occurring every week? It’ll never be the time to talk about stopping them then, since we’ll always be “reeling from an unavoidable tragedy”. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/48 "2018-02-26T20:23:33Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Only because we don’t have a major political party that opposes airline safety regulations. If one party said stuff like “this is not the time to talk about airline safety,” “the only way to make air travel safer is to give airlines _more_ flexibility in aircraft maintenance” and “planes don’t crash, bad pilots do”, you can be sure that it will become politicized. Don’t forget “if everyone had a plane, everyone would be safe”. Only way to stop a plane crashing and hurting someone is to be in your own plane that didn’t crash and/or shoot down the crashing plane with your armament. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526/49 "2018-02-26T20:24:49Z")
This isn’t a debate. Given the tone of the OP I’m not inclined to move it to MPSIMS so the Pit is where I’d normally send it. But given the half baked nature of these types of post, I’m just going to close this. If you’d like to debate, then feel free to start a debate. The form: XX said YY, you guys argue is not good debate fodder. This one [as did the other thread I just closed](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20813733#post20813733) also carries with it well poisoning and insults to one side of the proposition. [/moderating] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-a-tragedy-be-a-tragedy-what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-statement/809526.md?page=2)