# Let me be real clear: this message board does NOT need conservatives **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 28, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474 "2021-07-28T02:12:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 108
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2148 "2021-09-03T19:32:56Z")
YES! Sorry. I misread. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2149 "2021-09-03T21:56:51Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Well, he can clear it up, because it’s not immediately evident which “malfunction” the other assorted ones are other than. He also threw in “issues”, in case anyone missed his subtle innuendo about the sanity of liberals. Well, I’m sure he’ll be along any time now to explain. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2150 "2021-09-04T00:08:42Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Well, now you’re just saying things he didn’t say. He clearly stated “other assorted malfunctions”. I imagine he’s talking about piercings, vapers, vegans, PETA members, and people who cry at parties. Correct; not so much the piercings but definitely the vegan/PETA/crying at parties/crippling anxiety & depression/declaring videogames and other works of fiction to be “problematic” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2151 "2021-09-04T13:19:48Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > When conservatives lose arguments with liberals they tell themselves it’s just because liberals are “conforming” to “orthodoxy” and need a “hive mind” and an “echo chamber” etc. Wilfully disregarding the fact that liberals tend to be much more tolerant of dispute and disagreement, and much less threatened by argumentative challenges, than conservatives are. To be fair, it’s much more soothing to think like that. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2152 "2021-09-04T13:22:23Z")
Never pictured you for a piercings and video games guy. Whatever. I don’t judge. Much. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2153 "2021-09-04T13:45:16Z")
@Martini_Enfield, It must be hard, to be so self-loathing. Perhaps you should stop being a sucker for conservative propaganda and stereotyping of the people you claim to be aligned with on a number of issues, and actually engage your brain to see that you are being had by those seeking to use the politics of division to get people like you to act against their own interests? That’s assuming you’re _totally not a conservative_, as you’ve previously protested. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2154 "2021-09-04T13:56:19Z")
If you truly believe that the earth is flat, your only choice is to believe all the round-earthers are part of a hive mind conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2155 "2021-09-04T16:30:50Z")
Complete sidebar: Flat earthers fascinate me. The mental contortions they go through to push aside all physical evidence is extraordinary. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2156 "2021-09-04T16:59:45Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > The mental contortions they go through to push aside all physical evidence is extraordinary. You have to admire the commitment and will power required to remain stupid and wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2157 "2021-09-04T17:02:57Z")
In this case I do. 🙂 In other cases, I wish we could just put people in a colony where the idiocy only infected themselves. Looking at you anti-vaxxers. 😒 ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2158 "2021-09-04T17:22:21Z")
Did you all see the leader from this weeks issue of _The Economist?_ [Here you go.](https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/09/04/how-did-american-wokeness-jump-from-elite-schools-to-everyday-life) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2159 "2021-09-04T17:34:55Z")
Subscription required. Can you quote some of the more salient paragraphs? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2160 "2021-09-04T17:39:59Z")
Actually, no. I subscribe on my Kindle, but that is somehow not good enough to get the full article online. Go figure. We have got to fix that. Suffice it to say that they bemoan the bullying of the illiberal left and they tell people to shut up and get of their platforms. They see such ideas as simple tyranny. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2161 "2021-09-04T17:53:57Z")
Hush you! You’re [not allowed to talk about that.](https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-07-09/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-signs-bill-banning-critical-race-theory) It might make some white boy reading this thread feel bad. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2162 "2021-09-04T18:03:56Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Wilfully disregarding the fact that liberals tend to be much more tolerant of dispute and disagreement, and much less threatened by argumentative challenges, than conservatives are. This should please Dopers. According to this study greater ideological intolerance is a sign of intelligence: > **[More intelligent people are more ideologically intolerant than their less...](https://www.psypost.org/2021/02/more-intelligent-people-are-more-ideologically-intolerant-than-their-less-intelligent-counterparts-59701)** > > A recent study of Americans found evidence to suggest that liberals are more tolerant toward conservatives than conservatives are toward liberals. The ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2163 "2021-09-04T18:13:59Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > … all physical evidence is extraordinary. Mostly rhetorical: what physical evidence (of a non-flat Earth)? It seems to me it’s really a question of (1) how little we can actually come to know the world through casual observation, and (2) whose reporting of the evidence beyond our observation we will credit. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2164 "2021-09-04T18:14:01Z")
Well, my reaction is that that research is problematic. It may be correct, but it needs to be verified with different methodology. ETA: response to DemonTree’s post ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2165 "2021-09-04T18:16:50Z")
I’ve watched a few documentaries on flat earthers. They set up elaborate experiments to prove that the earth was flat. When the experiments proved the opposite, then they blamed it on the experiment failing rather than accepting that it succeeded. I’m still waiting for pictures of the giant ice wall… it sounds neat. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2166 "2021-09-04T18:24:12Z")
Don’t confuse flat-earthers who set out to make documentaries for flat-earthers in general. While many do no doubt go through extraordinary hoops and mental gymnastics to maintain belief in the face of what should be overwhelming evidence against their position, I would wager (not literally, because rules) that the _vast majority_ of flat-earthers fall into the category of believers who credit other (alleged) believers over actual scientists. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2167 "2021-09-04T18:48:02Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Mostly rhetorical: what physical evidence (of a non-flat Earth)? It seems to me it’s really a question of (1) how little we can actually come to know the world through casual observation, and (2) whose reporting of the evidence beyond our observation we will credit. I’ve visited the southern hemisphere and observed that the moon and constellation Orion were upside down compared to how I see them at home. Maybe flat Earthers have never travelled? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474.md?page=107) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474.md?page=109)