# Let me be real clear: this message board does NOT need conservatives

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 28, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474 "2021-07-28T02:12:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1866 "2021-08-20T16:12:22Z")

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That was hilarious!

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1867 "2021-08-20T16:15:38Z")

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Worried about parrots? There is one, alleged, parrot here… Why not worry about the multitude that make the hive? Look in the mirror and what you would see is that 95% of this forum is a hostile, circle jerking, hivemind and it’s not even an exaggeration at this point after so many differing points of view have either been banned or left in disgust.

This is a microcosm of society where the progressive left is becoming more and more illiberal and resorts to violence and extreme social pressures in order ensure an orthodoxy of thought and action. Why not fight some real villains? Round up the Warriors of Wokeness and some Workers of Socialness and go deal with the Taliban and other truly reprehensible sorts?.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1868 "2021-08-20T16:26:55Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Worried about parrots? There is one, alleged, parrot here… Why not worry about the multitude that make the hive? Look in the mirror and what you would see is that 95% of this forum is a hostile, circle jerking, hivemind and it’s not even an exaggeration at this point after so many differing points of view have either been banned or left in disgust.
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> This is a microcosm of society where the progressive left is becoming more and more illiberal and resorts to violence and extreme social pressures in order ensure an orthodoxy of thought and action. Why not fight some real villains? Round up the Warriors of Wokeness and some Workers of Socialness and go deal with the Taliban and other truly reprehensible sorts?.

Parroting standard right-wing false narratives? Check.

Blaming others for one’s failings? Check.

I note how easily you handwaved away the actual fascism of the right in order to complain about the imaginary fascism of the left, and away from the very real right-wing support for violence in order to make some tenuous claims about the left. And we get it: you accuse everyone else of hypocrisy and condoning of partisan violence in order to draw attention away from your own.

I now eagerly await your explanation of how it’s the left’s fault that you’re a morally bankrupt hypocrite. Be sure to use the word “woke” again, because it **totally** makes you sound more credible.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1869 "2021-08-20T16:40:25Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> I looked up the Pit threads on other posters going back two months at the time. wolfpup was in 4 ouf of 7 of them. crowmanyclouds was in all 7. Both with multiple posts, most threads in the dozens. It doesn’t say what it implies–that these two people don’t participate in pile-ons. It just says that they’re mightily pissed off by pretty much everyone who is Pit.

Did you actually check the content of those posts? Because I know on a number of occasions my reason for posting in a thread attempting to pit another poster was to defend that poster.

So taking that into account, I think that an unqualified “4 out of 7” without specifying what it was that was actually said in those posts is, to put it kindly, very far removed from “mightily pissed off by pretty much everyone who is Pit”. To put it less kindly, it’s a lie.

> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> This is why when some liberals on this board tell conservatives to take a good look at themselves, I roll my eyes.

This is why whenever some conservatives on this board cite “facts” and “statistics”, I roll my eyes, imagining them curled up with their copy of that classic tome, “How to Lie with Statistics”.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1870 "2021-08-20T17:45:12Z")

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Woke!

Historically and currently the far left ideology of communism is responsible for the most misery that humanity has suffered. Yet you and fellow hivesters cling to the fear of the spectre of a defeated 1920s-1940s era ideology to use as tool to justify the violence and illiberalism of the modern left. Sad!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1871 "2021-08-20T17:50:16Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> …to justify the violence and illiberalism of the modern left.

You call this violence? I’ll show you violence:

> **[Fried Octopus | Italian Food Forever](https://italianfoodforever.com/2019/12/fried-octopus/)**
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> Golden and crispy on the outside and tender and meaty inside, this is one seafood recipe you will want to make over and over again.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1872 "2021-08-20T17:53:37Z")

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You’re arguing with very liberal liberals and calling them communists, my man.

Those of us who really are on the (what I imagine you mean by) illiberal far left exist, but we have different prescriptions for these problems. You would know if we were in charge of things on this side.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1873 "2021-08-20T17:57:16Z")

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That’s fine, and they do.

What they object to is others choosing for them.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1874 "2021-08-20T17:59:26Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Historically and currently the far left ideology of communism is responsible for the most misery that humanity has suffered. Yet you and fellow hivesters cling to the fear of the spectre of a defeated 1920s-1940s era ideology to use as tool to justify the violence and illiberalism of the modern left. Sad!

I know. The Senator from MBNA is exactly the same as Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov. It really is sad.

You’ve convinced me.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1875 "2021-08-20T18:01:49Z")

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It’s like deja vu all over again…

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> > [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > As a third party observer, I am really having a hard time figuring out why you are so offended by this, given that QuickSilver seemed to be making a point that I think you would agree with, and if the “joke” was pointed at anyone it was pointed at bigoted conservatives and one eight armed individual in particular.
> > 
> > > To break it down. Quicksilver was asserting that the notion that which bathroom a person should go into being purely a matter of a 2nd grade biology notion of male, is false. Instead the designation of which bathroom a person goes into is directed more by conventions instituted by society.
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> > > When Quicksilver said that such a notion was “laughable”, he was saying that the notion was absurdly stupid, not that it was a particularly funny situation for those who are the target of discrimination.
> > > 
> > > I can understand that you are sensitive about this topic, but you are really manufacturing offense where none was intended or even exists.
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> Not to mention the subtle Schrodinger’s wave function collapse reference when one is observed to enter one or the other bathroom. The joke had layers.
> 
> So thanks for doing the painful work of having to explain a joke. Shouldn’t have to. But here we are. Surrounded by humorless bastards looking for new ways to be offended.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1876 "2021-08-20T18:03:05Z")

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It’s nice when someone does your backpedaling for you, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1877 "2021-08-20T18:04:06Z")

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Go fuck yourself.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1878 "2021-08-20T18:04:26Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Historically and currently the far left ideology of communism is responsible for the most misery that humanity has suffered

I’m sorry to hear about all that misery, since as a liberal, dictatorial communism has always been my ideal form of government and the objective toward which I always strive.

I must admit that your criticism of liberals, Democrats, and progressives in general is well placed. To quote that great intellectual from Alabama, Mo Brooks, who said, in defending the actions of the most recent Trumpist who threatened to bomb the Capitol:

> Although this terrorist’s motivation is not yet publicly known, and generally speaking, I understand citizenry anger directed at dictatorial Socialism and its threat to liberty, freedom and the very fabric of American society,”

> **[GOP Rep. Mo Brooks says he understands 'anger' at 'Socialism' amid Capitol...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/gop-rep-mo-brooks-says-he-understands-anger-at-socialism-amid-capitol-hill-bomb-threat-194336237.html)**
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> As U.S. Capitol Police were negotiating Thursday for the surrender of a suspect who threatened to detonate a truck bomb in front of the Library of Congress, Republican Rep. Mo Brooks issued a statement in which he said he understood "citizenry anger...

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1879 "2021-08-20T18:19:09Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Woke!
> 
> Historically and currently the far left ideology of communism is responsible for the most misery that humanity has suffered. Yet you and fellow hivesters cling to the fear of the spectre of a defeated 1920s-1940s era ideology to use as tool to justify the violence and illiberalism of the modern left. Sad!

I could only hope to be awakened from the endless incubus of your befuddled issuance. You are a torturer of logic, a butcher of language and reason, a phantasm of sprawling poppycock issued from from faint simulacrum of intellect no more convincing than a talking dog, with manners and measures beneath the lowest flea-ridden rodent. Bite thy tongue and begone, guileless wretch. Per good William’s words, more of your conversation would infect my brain.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Go fuck yourself.

Or, that.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1880 "2021-08-20T19:47:41Z")

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FYI : before you trot me out again as your great defender you should probably note a couple of important caveats related to the post you are using.

> [@Babale](#):
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> I think you are mixing up my post, and QuickSilver’s post which it was in response to.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Ooops!

I didn’t correct you the first time you quoted me since I really didn’t want to get embroiled in the argument one way or another, nor did I want to rehash my embarrassing mistake. But since you repeated this again, I want to make it clear that the post you were referring to as your defense was based on a misunderstanding and actually written as an (unneeded) defense of your opponent.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1881 "2021-08-20T19:55:37Z")

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It’s not like your “joke” was a very good one. Any joke that needs to be explained is a bad one to start, and one that is offensive doubly so.

In any case, I was not referencing the lack of humor of your statement, but rather that those in this thread who would find your joke to be humorous would be the ones who would insist on making the choice for others as to which bathroom they are allowed to use.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1882 "2021-08-20T20:06:34Z")

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Not sure I understand the distinction since you seem to be one of the few who understood the tone and intent of my joke. But duly noted. I won’t be referencing your response again.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1883 "2021-08-20T20:14:27Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Go fuck yourself.

Its mad!

> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> I could only hope to be awakened from the endless incubus of your befuddled issuance. You are a torturer of logic, a butcher of language and reason, a phantasm of sprawling poppycock issued from from faint simulacrum of intellect no more convincing than a talking dog, with manners and measures beneath the lowest flea-ridden rodent. Bite thy tongue and begone, guileless wretch. Per good William’s words, more of your conversation would infect my brain.

One hut is short its nut. Hope you find your way home.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1884 "2021-08-20T20:18:38Z")

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bzz bzz

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/1885 "2021-08-21T02:39:58Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Woke!
> 
> Historically and currently the far left ideology of communism is responsible for the most misery that humanity has suffered. Yet you and fellow hivesters cling to the fear of the spectre of a defeated 1920s-1940s era ideology to use as tool to justify the violence and illiberalism of the modern left. Sad!

Listen well you unintellent mollusk that still think that using “woke” as a slur does not brand you as deluded.

When I was very young I came very close to joining the leftist guerilla forces in El Salvador, when my family fled I choose at the last moment to follow them to the US. I got better and realized that far left ideologies are not a solution.

Suffice to say, you are an idiot in the Greek sense X1000 when you continue to think that most leftists, moderates and even more reasonable conservatives participating here are just like the old extreme left ideologies, simply because they are roasting you. (Most moderates that are doing it, do so because you are indeed making a mockery of what a reasonable conservative or moderate is supposed to be.)

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