# Let me be real clear: this message board does NOT need conservatives

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**Created:** [July 28, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474 "2021-07-28T02:12:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2657 "2021-09-23T05:00:48Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The left here and in the media downplayed the violence that included arson, rape, murder, vast amounts of looting

You’re arguing that “the left” “media” were downplaying violence and looting in the summer 2020 protests?

Have you just forgotten what the media were actually reporting back then, or are you just hoping that it was long enough ago that we’ll have forgotten?

I really can’t even with right-wingers imagining that if they just let a few weeks or months pass between a given event and the time they start lying about it, nobody will even notice the discrepancy.

[SF Chronicle, 11 June 2020: Oakland police on protests: 137 arson fires, more than 200 businesses looted, vandalized](https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/OPD-on-protests-137-arson-fires-more-than-200-15332043.php)

[BBC, 29 April 2020: Man fined $12m for police station arson during George Floyd protests](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56932263)

[MN Star-Tribune, 13 July 2020: Buildings damaged in Minneapolis, St. Paul after riots](https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-st-paul-buildings-are-damaged-looted-after-george-floyd-protests-riots/569930671/)

And on and on and on and on: there was hardly anything else but protest-related violence and crime in the news last summer, except COVID. But somehow conservatives like octopus can tell themselves that it was all “hand-waved away” because that’s what they want to believe, and what difference do facts make compared to what they want to believe?

I genuinely wonder if there’s ever going to be a serious confrontation with reality on the American right wing ever again. Are significant numbers of them ever going to look in the mirror and say to themselves “Taking horse dewormer and inhaling hydrogen peroxide? Spreading a deadly virus in the name of ‘freedom’? Pretending that political events and media reports were whatever we chose to believe about them? Made-up scenarios about vast election-stealing conspiracies? Masturbatory fantasies about having to overthrow democracy and seize control of government by force to avoid the demographic realities of losing majority status? My God, what were we thinking??!?”

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