# Let me be real clear: this message board does NOT need conservatives **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 28, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474 "2021-07-28T02:12:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2670
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/2670 "2021-09-27T02:52:12Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > You know why you need conservatives? To fight ignorance caused by being in a bubble. You can’t fight any ignorance by spreading lies. Or by credulously regurgitating a mix of facts and falsehoods and exaggerations so tangled up that it’s impossible to determine how much is which. Moreover, the “bubble” nature of news and facts on the left is nowhere near as pervasive and distorting as it is on the right. In fact, all the stuff that rightwing media likes to trumpet as its own “exposes” of non-rightwing figures is generally much more fully and factually explained in non-rightwing media (which is usually where the rightwing media found out about it in the first place). > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > For example, we were telling you the Hunter Biden Laptop story was a big deal, while Twitter and Facebook were censoring it. And it was real, and it’s still a big deal. Sam, are you really under the impression that those of us in the reality-based community don’t hear about anything unless it’s on Twitter and Facebook? As [this Washington Post article notes](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/07/hunter-bidens-laptop-april-16-2015-dinner/), there was plenty of coverage of this story at the time in the non-rightwing mainstream media, and there continues to be. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Without us, you might not know that the ‘Trump server connected to s Russian bank’ story was utter bullshit. Yeah, 'cause nobody in non-rightwing media ever suggested any such thing. [Oh wait, they did](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/17/it-is-entirely-fitting-that-alfa-bank-rumor-be-final-bookend-russia-probe/). > [@](#): > > The morning after the story was published, I wrote [a lengthy examination](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/01/that-secret-trump-russia-email-server-link-is-likely-neither-secret-nor-a-trump-russia-link/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11) of the claim, talking with an expert on this sort of communication who punched a number of very large holes in the idea that it marked quiet coordination between Trump and Russia. […] > > The Washington Post wasn’t the only news organization to question the story. The Daily Beast indicated that it had been pitched on the story and [passed](http://web.archive.org/web/20170111132942/https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/793243875171237888). The New York Times addressed it in its [infamous “Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia” article](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=0) published the same day, writing that “the F.B.I. ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts.” > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Without us you might not have heard that a lawyer representing Hillary Clinton has been indicted […] Because only conservatives [have access to the Justice Department website](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-durham-indictments-prosecuting-fake-trump-collusion/951215) where they announce what the Lawfare blog describes as “the special counsel’s weird prosecution of Michael Sussman”? How mysterious that no non-rightwing media thought to cover this interesting story! [Oh.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/politics/michael-sussman-russia-investigation.html) [Wait.](https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/17/politics/michael-sussmann/index.html) [They.](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/572743-attorney-charged-in-durham-investigation-pleads-not-guilty) [Did.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/special-counsel-appointed-trump-doj-may-indict-democratic-lawyer-sussmann-n1279353) Honestly, Sam, you’re just being pathetic here. Believe it or not, liberals (unlike many conservatives) do not need to go far afield beyond their “bubble” into strange new worlds of journalism in order to access news and opinion reporting critical of people who align with their own political ideology. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474)._