# Let me be real clear: this message board does NOT need conservatives

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 28, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474 "2021-07-28T02:12:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-be-real-clear-this-message-board-does-not-need-conservatives/947474/384 "2021-07-30T09:32:52Z")

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> [@How should the Pit be changed, if at all?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/330):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > It takes two to tango. You are sneering all throughout this thread, as you do in most Pit threads. If you think sneering is incompatible with argument, then you need to stop doing it yourself.
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> If you think sneering is so bad, why is an entire thread just to mock someone ok? **iiandyiiii** said that the **Sam\_Stone** thread was just about mocking. You posted 5 times in that thread. Why is mocking someone for 900 posts fine but sneering at people who are insulting you not ok? I’m sure you’ll make up a rationalization, but this is a double standard.
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> > [@How should the Pit be changed, if at all?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/330):
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> > That thread was just about mocking what I saw as extreme gullibility, akin to believing a convicted con artist who says they have a great deal on a bridge to sell you. It didn’t go any deeper than that. The Pit is the appropriate place for that kind of mockery and ribbing, ISTM.
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> [Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633)

First off, this is classic well-poisoning. You asked me a question about my post, which is fine. But then you poison the well by saying that any response is clearly just a rationalization—i.e. untrue. This is a dishonest style of debate, and you should stop.

If I ignore that part, then the answer is this: **You need to read what people actually say.** There are three important words in that quote that you seem to be ignoring. “_if you think_.” So I am not talking about my own belief. I am pointing out the flaw in his belief.

And, here’s the thing: **You just did the exact same thing.** You were debating my argument, even though you did not agree with it. So you clearly do understand the concept of arguing with what someone else said without claiming it yourself.

So the only good-faith interpretation is that you didn’t read my post carefully. I will give you a chance to apologize for that.

As for the topic of whether we need the Pit, that is clearly a topic for a different thread. You should not attempt to hijack this one to push your own hobby horse. Though I will say this much: you quoted someone else, not me. I’m not required to defend other people’s arguments.

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