Can you imagine? It would be the most active forum on the board.
There are also a couple of pronouns in Korean that resemble the n-word. It’s probably impossible to avoid those completely, though I’ve heard of K-pop songs getting censored in America as a result.
I would imagine the only one.
(I recognize that in junior-modding this thread, I am myself engaging in tedious semantics about what is and is not an appropriate subject for a pit thread)
Both matter. But when i read sometime insulting another poster, my feelings are usually influenced by context. Has that poster just said something horrific? Have they just described a personal tragedy? I’ll judge the insulter differently in those two scenarios. Whereas of they choose to use slurs (which by their nature also target third parties) I’ll pretty much always hold it against them to about the same degree.
??? A slur is an insult. You’re saying that you think less of people who insult each other in the Pit?
A slur is a subset of insults. And yes, of course i think less of people who use slurs in the pit. Isn’t that what i said in the post you were responding to?
Relevant to the discussion I was having previously
I’ve been through the definition on 4 online dictionaries. All of them say that a slur and an insult are synonymous. The only place that I’ve seen a slur defined as applied to groups is a comment in a Reddit post and Urban Dictionary, but it’s just one definition among many, and the others are more like the dictionary. Are you using a non-standard usage?
Even your wiki doesn’t explain the subset.
You CANNOT be serious
Interesting. I don’t see the sense in which @puzzlegal is using the term: an insult that is also indirectly insulting to third parties.
But I don’t think it makes sense to ask for a list. If someone thinks less of you for using a term you did not know was stigmatised, or not so seriously, they are being unreasonable. And if you disagree on what the list should be, well, you are free to think less of each other.
In any case, the worst insults are not slurs but those that attack some insecurity of the insultee, and there seems to be little pushback against those.
Depends on what one considers ‘directing personal insults’.
General contentless snarls: yes, I think poorly of those. I think more poorly of them if the particular insult also insults other people besides whoever it’s directed at.
Person X is a troll/sealioning/willfully ignorant/racist/misogynist/liar/etc/etc, while referring in the post or at least clearly in the thread to evidence for the claim: that to me is in a different category entirely, whether or not the accuser throws in a few swear words as intensifiers. And I will judge that based on the evidence, including what I myself have seen of the accused’s posts.
This also, quoted because I agree with it:
I take a “slur”, as it’s being discussed here, to mean the kind of insult that also insults others besides the one(s) it’s aimed at.
And I think @puzzlegal has explained clearly how they’re using it.
In case it isn’t 100% obvious, which it definitely is, @puzzlegal is clearly using ‘slur’ as shorthand for the category of racial/ethnic/LGBT/disabled/gender slurs, rather than normal insults.
Don’t even
But pretty much any personal insult against anyone that refers to a characteristic of that person in a disparaging way falls into that category of “slur”. I’m not sure that’s a useful or clarifying distinction.
Why are those things included in a special slur category when things such as class, accent, height, weight, hair colour, religion, politics, mental capability, skill proficiency, nationality, dress, artistic taste etc. etc. are not?
Because we aren’t sitting around in a vacuum coming up with ideas about what may or may not be offensive. Have you been part of a Western culture in the last 250 years? If so, you shouldn’t need the reason why some insults are just insults and others are slurs explained to you.
Why these groups, and what other groups? Generally, if people are referring to slurs of this nature, people use the the descriptor first, like racial slurs or ethnic slurs. But that’s no different than insults against an ethnic or racial group.
I’m still not so clear. Does she also include all these groups?
because these are third party groups as well.
I said nothing about whether any of them can be offensive or not.
That is what I would say if I were struggling to explain the difference and wanted to avoid answering.
What is the difference between a slur based on gender and slur based on weight? Does one hurt a person less than the other?
I’m sorry to hear that you’re a dishonest debater then
Gender is a category that had been used in our society to oppress one kind of people, making them subservient to another, for thousands of years. Gender slurs perpetuate that.
Same goes for race, although systemic oppression based on race is a more recent phenomenon than oppression based on gender, which may very well be the ancestral state for our species.
If you can show evidence that for hundreds of years people were oppressed based on their weight, you’d gave a point.
No, but one hurts society more than the other.
They are descriptions of specific types of behavior.
That there are multiple people who engage in them doesn’t make them the equivalent of racial/ethnic/differently abled/physically distinguishable/etc. groups. It’s an entirely false equivalence.
I’m certainly going to think poorly of the person who uses either one.