# Let me elucidate something for you, elucidator...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 30, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695 "2003-08-30T22:36:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/21 "2003-08-31T03:30:47Z")

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\*Originally posted by mhendo \*  
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And **county** , you might want to branch out a bit and read some of **elucidator** ’s threads before you accuse him of being a right winger.

Well, I’m still learning the rules - I thought you commented on the original statement(s), I didn’t know I was suppose to research the individual.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/22 "2003-08-31T04:00:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Squink \*  
> \*\*Moderate **Reeder** , moderate. That way when you speak, you are a **moderator** , and get to wear a special hat. \*\*

Labelled ‘Dunce’, of course.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/23 "2003-08-31T04:08:16Z")

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County, if you´re going to pit him you should at least try to know the guy, no?

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**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/24 "2003-08-31T04:17:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ale \*  
> \*\*County, if you´re going to pit him you should at least try to know the guy, no? \*\*

I already said I am still learning the rules.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/25 "2003-08-31T04:29:08Z")

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Geez man, that´s common sense, not a rule.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/26 "2003-08-31T06:01:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by county \*  
> \*\*Looks to me like the guy is frustrated with logic and common sense, I see a lot of that with the misguided souls who lean to the right. \*\*

Hell, 'Luce is why people think I’m a right winger. Compared to him, I am. Some basic reading of his posts is required, methinks.

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**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/27 "2003-08-31T07:24:40Z")

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> it’s quite clear to me that we also do not all possess the tools necessary to fight ignorance.

😕 hmm…must be talkin’ about me

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**Author:** ![woolly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ebca7d/32.png) [@woolly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woolly)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/28 "2003-08-31T10:51:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
> \*\*Hark! Be that the sound of a chain being yanked _again_ . . . \*\*

Alternatively it might be the sound of a yank being chained?

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/29 "2003-08-31T10:55:31Z")

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The world just isn’t ready for lateral thinking Aussies – kick back and have another beer while you’re waiting for the future World Champs to arrive (yesterday’s B team setback notwithstanding).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/30 "2003-08-31T12:11:19Z")

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**Scylla**! Hey, I’m glad you showed up, guy! I could use some advice, being kind of new to this “Pitted” thing, and you’ve been Pitted, what, six, seven times?

Do I serve refreshments? And what tone to take with a clueless OP, snide derision or avuncular indulgence?

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/31 "2003-08-31T12:29:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
> \*\*What makes right-wingers any more or less “misguided” than left-wingers? \*\*

Out of control “self esteem.” Who could have known such an innocuous-seeming concept could get so out of hand? The left and right circle back on each other at the extremes. Just watch, they do it all the time.

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**Author:** ![Azael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@Azael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azael)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/32 "2003-08-31T14:32:06Z")

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> \*\*And what tone to take with a clueless OP, snide derision or avuncular indulgence?

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**elucidator** snide and derisive? Say it aint so!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/33 "2003-08-31T14:38:28Z")

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Sure! “It ain’t so” Glad to oblige.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/34 "2003-08-31T14:52:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> \*\ ***Scylla**! Hey, I’m glad you showed up, guy! I could use some advice, being kind of new to this “Pitted” thing, and you’ve been Pitted, what, six, seven times?  
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Yes, and you can claim to be a virgin again, too, but that doesn’t make it so ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=200768](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=200768)).

In the specific quotes cited by the OP, if we’re going to posit that the Left is more adept at rational debate, then how do we explain Indymedia?

More generally, the OP is just another example of Elucidator’s smarmy, baiting SDMB persona devaluing any valid points he might have otherwise made. (On rare occasions ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=206639](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=206639)), he forgets to adopt it and accidentally posts something thought provoking and informative. It’s always a shock when I read such a post, look over to see who wrote it, and realize that Elucidator is actually capable of forming simple declarative sentences. To borrow a line from the Simpson’s, “This is the stage we call Professor Elucidator, talkative, coherent, even insightful.”

Unfortunately, we don’t see this facet very often because apparently it’s more entertaining to post the kind of drivel cited in the OP.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/35 "2003-08-31T15:11:12Z")

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That’s the spirit, **Finagle**! Little dashes of spite and envy certainly livens up this rather tepid Pitting. Was getting to be like be set upon by a gang of Amish delinquents!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/36 "2003-08-31T15:13:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> \*\ ***Scylla**! Hey, I’m glad you showed up, guy! I could use some advice, being kind of new to this “Pitted” thing, and you’ve been Pitted, what, six, seven times?
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> Do I serve refreshments? And what tone to take with a clueless OP, snide derision or avuncular indulgence? \*\*
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> > \*Originally posted by Finagle \*  
> > **Yes, and you can claim to be a virgin again, too, but that doesn’t make it so ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=200768](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=200768)).**

Hey, rocket scientist, if you’ll actually bother to read the posts, you’ll see that **elucidator** is saying that he is new to being pitted, i.e. by someone else.

The thread that you linked to was actually started by **elucidator** , and was not a pitting of him. Being abused in your own pit thread is not, in my opinion, the same as being pitted. I thought this rule had been firmly established in the Moderator Pitting contest.

As for **elucidator** ’s thread that you linked to, i thought the most amusing thing about that was the hysterical reaction to an OP that was little more than a tongue-in-cheek jibe at conservatism. Christ, i’m a committed leftist who takes my politics very seriously, but i also have enough of a sense of humour to be able to laugh at myself and my end of the political spectrum every once in a while. Some of the conservatives on this board should try it sometime.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/37 "2003-08-31T15:15:02Z")

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Hey, why is my post sticking out to the right? I thought this board was controlled by the left!

😃

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/38 "2003-08-31T15:28:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mhendo \*  
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Hey, rocket scientist, if you’ll actually bother to read the posts, you’ll see that **elucidator** is saying that he is new to being pitted, i.e. by someone else.  
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That’s sort of like someone claiming they’re new to stripping because they’ve never had their name on the marquee before. Elucidator’s been taken to the woodshed several times in the Pit, mostly after posting a Reeder-like OP.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/39 "2003-08-31T15:55:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Finagle \*  
> \*\*…Elucidator’s been taken to the woodshed several times in the Pit, mostly after posting a Reeder-like OP. \*\*

Gee, yer battin’ a thousand, **Finagle**. Didn’t it even occur to you to check before you shot off yer mouth? You do know about checking the archives, right? How you can search on someones name, see how many they’ve been Pitted?

You didn’t do that, did you, buckaroo?

Guess what? One. This one.

You were saying?

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-me-elucidate-something-for-you-elucidator/198695/40 "2003-08-31T16:05:09Z")

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Okay, E, I’ll spell it out for you in small words so you’ll get it. After you post some asinine OP in the Pit, the thread will drift away from the OP and focus on your many obvious deficiencies in both rhetoric and understanding.

We don’t have to drag you to the Pit because you’re already wallowing in it.

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