# Let’s fix Afghanistan, what’s your silly theory?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 20, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245 "2021-08-20T23:37:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/41 "2021-08-21T15:24:10Z")

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> [@Kimera757](#):
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> I think there would be fewer entrepreneurs once terrorists killed a few of them. I can’t imagine trying to raise a family in a dangerous country that hates you.

Lots of people go to dangerous places to earn money. There lines of settlers for the Oklahoma territory while Indians were still killing them. You’re correct most people wouldn’t pack children over there but some will just like miners in the Klondike gold rush brought their families from the start or brought then over once they got a claim established. More importantly colonists will have sex and children will occur even if you sent over nothing but 20 somethings looking to make their fortune.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/42 "2021-08-21T15:30:40Z")

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LOL, Part Deux !

Maybe a Tex-Mex chain specializing in Inshallah-das …

[JFTR, I know that Arabic isn’t the dominant language in Afghanistan, but … that’s just part of adding silly to the thread ;-)]

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/43 "2021-08-21T15:40:08Z")

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50% (approx) already don’t set foot in a mosque, because their gender precludes it.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/44 "2021-08-21T15:42:24Z")

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So I’m already more than half way to my goal!

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/45 "2021-08-21T15:43:29Z")

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So far, then, your suggestion appears to be the winning one.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/46 "2021-08-21T17:14:03Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Wait so you argument is that colonists was bad for France, Spain, Portugal, and the Dutch because they eventually stopped?

My point is that building and maintaining colonial empires was ultimately destructive to the colonial power, both economically and politically, leading to a fall from dominance and often decades of economic hardship.

> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> The US controlled its strategic objectives and could go back and take the whole country before the end of the 2021 if they wanted too.

Again, false premise. The United States and its allies did not “control its strategic objectives”; it was constantly harassed by insurgents planting IEDs, never built an effective coalition of tribal leaders opposed to Taliban rule, and was at no point able to secure and maintain the entire National Highway 01 (i.e. “the Ring Road”) to allow ready transport of people and goods around the country, much less all “strategic objectives”.

> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Lots of people go to dangerous places to earn money. There lines of settlers for the Oklahoma territory while Indians were still killing them.

_shakes head_

Why take half measures in just subjugating Afghanis? Why don’t we just [declare the entire Afghan population to be subhumans fit only for slave labor and sever the hand of anyone who doesn’t make their daily quota?](https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/king-leopold-ii-the-man-who-murdered-10-million-people-3c587d972fbc)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/47 "2021-08-21T17:36:49Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Why take half measures in just subjugating Afghanis? Why don’t we just [declare the entire Afghan population to be subhumans fit only for slave labor and sever the hand of anyone who doesn’t make their daily quota?](https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/king-leopold-ii-the-man-who-murdered-10-million-people-3c587d972fbc)

Seems like the right solution though we’d probably need more like 20 million dead.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/48 "2021-08-21T18:49:09Z")

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Are you under the impression that women are forbidden from entering mosques?

That is not the case. They sit separately from the men, but they absolutely go to mosque.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/49 "2021-08-22T05:52:41Z")

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It varies.

In South Africa, most mosques are dual gender, with separate seating. However there is at least one that I know of that does not accommodate women.

In Indonesia all the mosques I visited had areas where my girlfriend was not allowed into, but I was.

In India, (in Rajasthan) women were allowed in but again, in several mosques the central areas only let me in, and only if I had a head covering.

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**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/50 "2021-08-22T16:45:31Z")

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I say we dust off and nuke the site from orbit. [It’s the only way to be sure.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnHmUk_J6xQ&ab_channel=TroiaCitt%C3%A0)

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/51 "2021-08-22T17:08:21Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> It occurs to me that things would look very differently, at this point in time, if the foreign forces in country, had decided to train an all female force.

I hear that same idea worked out great for Muammar Gaddafi!

> **[Gaddafi's 'Amazonian' bodyguards' barracks quashes myth of glamour](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/sep/07/gaddafis-amazonian-bodyguards-barracks)**
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> Tripoli living quarters belonging to Libya dictator's elite cadre reveals a picture of ruthless control and shattered lives

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/52 "2021-08-22T17:41:30Z")

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I know that brick-and-mortar retail is on the Endangered Species list, but wouldn’t it be just grand to open a 4.5 million square foot **Mullah of America** smack dab in the center of Kandahar ??

[https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/mall-of-america-in-minneapolis-united-states-in-august-1992-general-picture-id115155769?k=6&m=115155769&s=612x612&w=0&h=X6BNCNBN0xIgudlSAQtPfScsN0ju1CSLAsWNFs2IkGI=](https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/mall-of-america-in-minneapolis-united-states-in-august-1992-general-picture-id115155769?k=6&m=115155769&s=612x612&w=0&h=X6BNCNBN0xIgudlSAQtPfScsN0ju1CSLAsWNFs2IkGI=)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/53 "2021-08-22T18:57:27Z")

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How about just letting anyone who doesn’t want to be there anymore immigrate to the US, and leave the rest fighting over a worthless patch of land?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/54 "2021-08-22T22:56:09Z")

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It’s far from worthless. There are lots of minerals. China is after the rare earth ones.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/55 "2021-08-22T23:21:14Z")

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> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> China is after the rare earth ones.

They had some great tunes.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/56 "2021-08-23T01:19:34Z")

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Years and years ago I heard a military officer being interviewed on a radio program who was asked how long it would take Afghanistan to be self sufficient and have western levels of human rights and infrastructure. He said about 100 years.

So we all just wait 100 years, then invade again.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-fix-afghanistan-what-s-your-silly-theory/949245/57 "2021-08-23T01:20:22Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> How about just letting anyone who doesn’t want to be there anymore immigrate to the US, and leave the rest fighting over a worthless patch of land?

Because in situations like these, the people that want to leave are more likely to include the wealthier and more educated people, and the Taliban probably want them to stay.

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