# Let’s play Heresy!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 22, 2005, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623 "2005-07-22T12:51:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fortean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/96bed5/32.png) [@Fortean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fortean)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/21 "2005-07-22T15:13:50Z")

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Some more positive-ish ones:

Mike Myers is a comedy genius.

Just A Minute is far funnier than I’m Sorry I Haven’t A Clue (one for the Brits)

I agree that A.I. is a brilliant film.

(Requiem For A Dream, on the other hand, is pants.)

Everybody Loves Raymond is probably one of the most vicious, hard-hitting comedies of the last 20 years (and that’s a good thing).

Julie Andrews would’ve been loads better than Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady.

(Well… kind of positive!)

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/22 "2005-07-22T15:23:59Z")

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I don’t like **Star Wars**.

I’m not a fan of **Pink Floyd**.

Soccer bores the crap out of me.

I have never read nor seen any of the **LOTR** stuff, and have no intention of ever doing so.

I don’t particularly like cats.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/23 "2005-07-22T15:33:04Z")

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Cold-blooded first degree murder sucks.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/24 "2005-07-22T15:36:43Z")

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_Saving Private Ryan_ was crap, and absolutely deserved to lose Best Picture to _Shakespeare in Love_.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/25 "2005-07-22T15:42:22Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> **Hamlet** - Sucks Ass. Shakespeare’s worst. At the end everyone’s dead and I think, “Good. I’m happier with them all dead. I wish we could kill them again for fun.”

Yes! Hamlet was a third rate play. The author had no idea what the plot should be. The characters are totally inconsistent not by design, but because the author had no idea who they were. It is chock full of deus ex machina.

Terrible, terrible play.

Imagine holding this opinion as a Theatre Major. I never spoke of it for fear of my life.

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**Author:** ![NE\_Texan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e99b99/32.png) [@NE\_Texan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NE_Texan)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/26 "2005-07-22T15:47:22Z")

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_The Simpsons_ is way overrated - it’s just not that funny. Groenig’s best work was _Life in Hell_.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/27 "2005-07-22T15:58:29Z")

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_Titus Andronicus_ is nowhere near one of Shakespeare’s worst plays.

I second (or third) the notion that the early seasons of _Saturday Night Live_ were highly over-rated.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/28 "2005-07-22T16:07:39Z")

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TV “Reality” shows are not as interesting as reality is.

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/29 "2005-07-22T16:53:57Z")

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Quentin Tarantino is an overrated hack.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/30 "2005-07-22T17:01:17Z")

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**Star Trek: the Next Generation** was, at best, mediocre television. It featured a lame cast of bland bores, and the writing was just as formulaic, hackneyed, full of timid “safe” topical matter and pseudoscientific jargon as **Voyager** ever was. “The Borg” were simply a ripoff of “the Cybermen” from Doctor Who.

The final episode of **Newhart** was cute, but is now the most monumentally over-rated moment in the history of television.

The new **War of the Worlds** is a decent summer blockbuster movie.

No matter how prepared Batman could make himself, Superman, Wonder Woman and…yes…AQUAMAN could each individually wipe their asses with him in a fight.

“We Built This City” isn’t _that_ bad a song.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/31 "2005-07-22T17:04:32Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> This probably isn’t heresy to Those Who Know, but the best fantasy writer in America right now is Tim Powers.

That’s not heresy to fantasy-fans? All right then: other than the brilliant _Last Call_, Powers’s work is autoderivative, smarmy, and flat. Just like Neal Stephenson’s entire _oeuvre_.

Southern Soul Food ain’t all that, on the one hand.

On the other hand, just because you can slather some pesto, goat cheese, and capers on a piece of seared tuna and schlep it over arugula-infused gnocchi doesn’t mean you can cook. It just means you’re a trendy hack.

Then again, Britney Spears, bless her, has got some singing chops. I might not listen to her, but she’s got a powerful voice.

Lewis Black needs to chill the fuck out. Yelling is not the same thing as entertaining.

I don’t know if this is heresy or not, but Samantha Bee is God.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/32 "2005-07-22T17:06:04Z")

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> [@Art Vandelay](#):
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> **Star Trek: the Next Generation** was, at best, mediocre television. It featured a lame cast of bland bores, and the writing was just as formulaic, hackneyed, full of timid “safe” topical matter and pseudoscientific jargon as **Voyager** ever was.

The same applies to pretty much every incarnation of _Star Trek_, ever.

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> “We Built This City” isn’t _that_ bad a song.

Word.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/33 "2005-07-22T17:18:53Z")

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_The Nanny_ was fully the equal of _I Love Lucy_ and had a superior supporting cast.

_Monty Python’s Flying Circus?_ It would make a good one-hour highlight reel. The rest is doo-doo.

Meatloaf has the best male voice in modern popular music. Hayley Westenra may have the best female voice, it is hard to tell.

Oddly, Westlife has a good album, _Allow Us to be Frank._

Nissan makes a better car than Volkswagen.

The front of the new US nickel is great. There was never a better-looking coin than the old Ike with the Eagle Landing on the Moon obverse.

The Euro is pig-ugly.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/34 "2005-07-22T17:21:27Z")

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I liked the _Matrix_ sequels.

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**Author:** ![marque\_elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@marque\_elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marque_elf)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/35 "2005-07-22T17:23:23Z")

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Beethoven’s Ninth is a wonderful piece of music but he didn’t have a clue how to end it.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/36 "2005-07-22T17:25:22Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> I liked the _Matrix_ sequels.

Good point! Matrix Revolutions kicked all kinds of ass!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/37 "2005-07-22T17:31:33Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> That’s not heresy to fantasy-fans? All right then: other than the brilliant _Last Call_, Powers’s work is autoderivative, smarmy, and flat. Just like Neal Stephenson’s entire _oeuvre_.

Sorry, “Declare” is Powers’ best book to date. Last Call was great, too, though. And “On Stranger Tides” and “Drawing of the Dark”… damn, that guy is good!

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Southern Soul Food ain’t all that, on the one hand.  
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Depends on the cook. A lot of people who cook turnip greens have obviously never tasted properly cooked turnip greens. Biscuits are hard to get right. And country ham is … an acquired taste, that I have never acquired. But when Southern food is good, it’s very good.

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Then again, Britney Spears, bless her, has got some singing chops. I might not listen to her, but she’s got a powerful voice.  
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I agree, though Aquilera is clearly the better vocalist of the two. Britney’s body, however, is smokin’.

As for Samantha Bee … a lot of her stuff is funny-ish, but not QUITE funny. Sort of like the difference between the lightning and the lightning bug.

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**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/38 "2005-07-22T17:49:19Z")

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> [@Fortean](#):
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> Beyoncé Knowles is probably a better actress than Halle Berry.

Unfortunately, not true–have you seen the commercial she did for Diet Pepsi? Or maybe it was Diet Coke. So now I’m not sure which one I’m supposed to buy. Help me–I’m so confused! Anyway, she was more wooden than Pinocchio. If she makes a movie, I won’t go see it. What is it about fame that makes people think they can act?

> [@Fortean](#):
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> Charlize Theron is ugly.

And Cameron Diaz is uglier. She should’ve had a butt-double for the Charlie’s Angels movies. She’s butt-ugly, and her butt is even butt-uglier. Ben Affleck looks like a horse’s butt, and he probably really does wear a toupee.

Britney is a horrible singer, and Jessica is even worse. Christina Aguilera is a thousand kinds of messed-up, but she does have a good singing voice. She might be the only pop princess who can actually sing. But she still needs therapy.

The Ring really sucked. The Notebook was worse (the book–haven’t seen the movie, don’t want to see it).

Most popular authors are no-talent hacks.

Robin Williams is a conceited, self-centered moron.

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/39 "2005-07-22T18:20:57Z")

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The Grateful Dead and the Doors are both _way_ overrated!

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-s-play-heresy/313623/40 "2005-07-22T18:25:20Z")

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> [@William V.](#):
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> Despite all of his bad press and the unrelenting hatred of liberals everywhere, George W. Bush is actually a brilliant, insightful statesman who truly cares about the people of the United States.

I’ll go one further: all politicans, regardless of ideology or party affiliation, are deeply motivated public servants who care only about doing what’s best for the people they represent. While we may disagree with their positions from time to time, we should never mistrust their motives

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