# Let the poor woman die already! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029 "2005-03-17T19:11:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Maendosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@Maendosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maendosa)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/101 "2005-03-18T19:22:23Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > What I don’t understand is if the guy is so much in love with his wife, why is he already set to marry the woman he’s engaged to when Terry dies? And why not just get the divorce so he can move on? > \ > I just don’t understand the argument that he’s a caring husband looking out for her interests when he’s already started a new life with another woman. Yes, I know it’s his right and it’s also right to do so. Dude, it’s been 15 years since he’s heard her voice, seen the light in her eyes, had her hold his hand, or laugh, or be the Terri that he fell in love with and married. Do you think you could continue to hold a passionate flame for FIFTEEN YEARS for someone who is functionally dead? Would you think it’s mentally or emotionally healthy to carry a torch for someone like that? Would YOU expect your spouse to never be in love with anyone again, should (og forbid) something happen to you? Can you understand that it’s still possible, however, to CARE for that same person, in a heartfelt and meaningful way, and still not be passionately ‘in love’ with them? She shared a part of his life. He’s caught in a tug-of-war where he still cares enough for Terri to want to see that her wishes are carried out, but he’s HAD to move on from the part of his life where they were functionally husband and wife, sharing their intimate love with each other. We’re not talking about an ‘on or off’ switch where he’s either passionately devoted to Terri, or doesn’t give a fuck about her anymore. I’ll say this - I’m 31, and this issue has damn well made me express, in no uncertain terms, to my family and my long-term boyfriend that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES am I to be left in a vegetative state out of some concern for ‘right to life’. I’m in the process of drawing up my will, and my living will, and will be meeting with an attorney next week to finalize the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/102 "2005-03-18T19:22:34Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Good for you. But make sure your friends and family know your wishes as well. Living wills are not, unfortunately, watertight. They do, I told them before I went under the knife for my hysterecomy in October of 2003, just in case something went wrong, like I had a reaction to the anestheasia or some such. They know I don’t want to be kept alive in a persistent vegatative state, and to let me go if I’m found to be brain dead. If it’s “just” a coma, they know I’d want them to try and let me come out of it, as long as I would come back to a decent level of funtionality, and not be a vegetable or only waste away and die in pain later. ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/103 "2005-03-18T19:38:45Z")
Michael was dating his mistress while he was testifying in court that he wanted to take care of Terri for the rest of her life. Three months after he got the $2M he started trying to pull her feeding tube. There’s a good summary in the first few minutes of the [second hour of this show](http://www.glennbeck.com/audio/). This weekend they’re having a free “insider” weekend, so anyone can sign up and download the audio for free. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/104 "2005-03-18T19:53:13Z")
> [@emarkp](#): > > Michael was dating his mistress while he was testifying in court that he wanted to take care of Terri for the rest of her life. Three months after he got the $2M he started trying to pull her feeding tube. And your point is? He tried for _seven_ years to bring her back. Whatever the timeline is, and whoever he is involved with, the bottom line hard truth is that all the doctors who have evaluated her (and not just looked at a heavily edited videotape) says that there is no hope of recovery. She’s got enough brain left to breath. That’s not life, that’s existing. ABC is reporting that their affiliate in Tampa says the tube has been pulled. No confirmation yet. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/105 "2005-03-18T19:58:14Z")
> [@emarkp](#): > > Michael was dating his mistress while he was testifying in court that he wanted to take care of Terri for the rest of her life. Three months after he got the $2M he started trying to pull her feeding tube. > > There’s a good summary in the first few minutes of the [second hour of this show](http://www.glennbeck.com/audio/). This weekend they’re having a free “insider” weekend, so anyone can sign up and download the audio for free. Funny, my cite had the award listed at $1M, $700k of which went to her care. The rest likely went towards legal fees to fight off her truly disturbed parents. That also contradicts nothing that the doctors that have _examined Terry Schiavo in person_ have said regarding her inability to recover. And can we please stop referring to Jodi Centzone as the mistress/new chick/whatever. It’s idiotic. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/106 "2005-03-18T20:08:42Z")
The tube is out. [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7212079/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7212079/) What’s up with that picture of all the people with those “life” stickers over their mouths. Anyway, I’ll wager the tube will be back in within the next 48 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/107 "2005-03-18T20:19:05Z")
> [@emarkp](#): > > Michael was dating his mistress while he was testifying in court that he wanted to take care of Terri for the rest of her life. What’s the contradiction? > [@](#): > > Three months after he got the $2M he started trying to pull her feeding tube. It was a little over ONE million and the money went to her care, dude. You also seem to have missed the posts where people informed you that Michael Schiavo has _turned down_ offers in excess of 10 million dollars to divorce her and walk away? You’re getting misinformation about this case. Michael stands to gain nothing monetarily from Terri’s death but could gain substantially for walking away. He doesn’t have a “mistress,” by the way. He has a family. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/108 "2005-03-18T20:24:20Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > What’s up with that picture of all the people with those “life” stickers over their mouths. It’s symbolism, since Terri can’t “eat.” ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/109 "2005-03-18T20:33:49Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > It’s symbolism, since Terri can’t “eat.” Don’t these people have day jobs? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/110 "2005-03-18T20:35:14Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > You’re getting misinformation about this case. This is way beyond getting misinformation. **emarkp** and his ilk have been given plenty of cites in the two current Pit threads to learn what the actual _facts_ of the case are. They are not interested in facts. This is willful, obstinate, and foolish misrepresentantion. This is lying. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/111 "2005-03-18T20:37:57Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Don’t these people have day jobs? Apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/112 "2005-03-18T20:39:16Z")
Oh, unless their day jobs are working for Randal Terry. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/113 "2005-03-18T20:46:09Z")
\*\* This Year’s Model\*\* > [@](#): > > This is lying. Why? I don’t get it. They claim the guy wants money, but he’s turned money down. They claim that doctors feel she can get better, but there’s no way she can get better. They claim that starving her is inhumane, but she’s not aware and can’t feel anything because of her condition. There’s been several posters who have described similar cases with their family members. There’s been doctor and nurse posters who have described in detail Terry’s condition and what it means…in both on-going threads. What are posters who ignore that information trying to accomplish? I don’t get it, can someone explain it me? Please? ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/114 "2005-03-18T20:48:37Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > The tube is out. > What’s up with that picture of all the people with those “life” stickers over their mouths. I’ll bet their mothers are so proud of them right now… The one on the far right looks like she’s suffocating. ---
**Author:** ![mattmorgan64](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@mattmorgan64](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mattmorgan64)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/115 "2005-03-18T20:48:40Z")
I just want to know if Terry will ever do the ‘Macarena’ again. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/116 "2005-03-18T20:49:43Z")
**holmes** , **This Year’s Model** is accusing **emarkp** and the others of lying because they refuse to read any of our cites, and keep making shit up. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/117 "2005-03-18T20:53:14Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **holmes** , **This Year’s Model** is accusing **emarkp** and the others of lying because they refuse to read any of our cites, and keep making shit up. Yes, but _why_ are they doing so? ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/118 "2005-03-18T20:55:32Z")
\*\* Guinastasia\*\* I got that. My question is why are they doing it? I can’t comprehend it. A little help please. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/119 "2005-03-18T21:00:42Z")
> [@holmes](#): > > \*\* Guinastasia\*\* I got that. My question is why are they doing it? I can’t comprehend it. A little help please. How should I know? My guess is that they have their preconceived notions and aren’t about to let facts get in the way. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/120 "2005-03-18T21:07:06Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t get it, can someone explain it me? It’s a form of mental deficiency that aflicts people that listen to and trust anything Glenn Beck has to say about anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029.md?page=7)