# Let the poor woman die already!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 17, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029 "2005-03-17T19:11:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![velveeta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/13edae/32.png) [@velveeta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velveeta)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1181 "2005-03-31T16:48:10Z")

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> [@Martha](#):
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> BBC is reporting her death now.  
> [BBC NEWS | Americas | Brain-damaged Terri Schiavo dies](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4398131.stm)

Well chalk another one up for me in the impeccably bad timing category.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1182 "2005-03-31T16:54:27Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> How the hell does Michael get past all the protestors to see Terri? I assume he zips in driving some car with heavily tinted windows. But I know he’s been in to see her, and other family members of other hospice patients can get it (although sometimes too late to see their loved ones before they die) but how does Michael get past the people who would as soon shoot him as spit on him?
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> I heard that her brother, Bobby, is no longer allowed to see her. I wonder how that will go over with the masses.

From what I heard earlier today, they’re allowing him to stay at the hospice in a room off of Terri’s, due to circumstances.

Well, it’s over, at least, until the lawsuits. And the wailing and the nashing of the teeth.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1183 "2005-03-31T16:57:56Z")

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And now the death watch is on for the five minutes of fame awarded to hospice protestors. From [abcnews.com](http://abcnews.com):

\*"“I’m not believing the report of man,” the bearded man said. “God will raise her from the dead, and all the world will see it.”

After the announcement, Mike Stafford, of Hollywood, Fla., stood before police who had arrested more than 50 people trying to bring water to Schiavo gave the Nazi salute and shouted “Heil Hitler.”"\*  
Wonder if Tom DeLay, deprived of Schiavo as a distraction from his ethics problems, will now seize on [this case](http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/03/12/hospital_family_agree_to_withdraw_life_support/).

There’s still time for Congress to intervene.

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**Author:** ![velveeta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/13edae/32.png) [@velveeta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velveeta)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1184 "2005-03-31T17:00:09Z")

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Don’t read the comments section on the BBC page. They’ll make you want to vomit. “Karen from Alexandria, VA” states that, "The most unfortunate thing about this case is that the proper tests have never been done to determine what her real condition is. A few simple tests would answer whether or not her brain is alive once and for all. "

There’s no hope for these people.

Karen, you douchecunt, I’m ashamed to live in a state adjacent to yours.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1185 "2005-03-31T17:14:19Z")

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It still isn’t over. The theocrats will continue to push for more and more and more. According to Time,

_Bush, DeLay and Senator Bill Frist of Tennessee were suddenly as quiet as the Democrats had been all along; the Republican congressional leaders declined opportunities to speak about Schiavo on the Sunday-morning talk shows. “The winners of this are going to be the people who stop talking about it,” said a senior Republican strategist._

\*Certain social conservatives don’t believe in any kind of right to die, even if someone has asked for death in a living will. In their minds, ending any life-sustaining medical treatment is tantamount to murder or assisted suicide. \*

So, it is not over, and it is just part of the religious fanatic agenda. Others are stillt treating it like some sort of obscene game. If certain people have their way, nothing you put to paper, including a living will would make any difference. It’s bad enough “they” want to tell us how to live and who to pray to, now “they” won’t even let us die in peace.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1186 "2005-03-31T17:30:04Z")

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I demand that Governor Bush take instant executive action to raise her from the dead!

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1187 "2005-03-31T17:32:51Z")

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The Schindlers are now going to slowly die of starvation for attention.

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**Author:** ![Shadez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Shadez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadez)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1188 "2005-03-31T17:37:29Z")

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[From CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/31/schiavo/index.html)

> [@CNN.com](#):
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> Minutes before the announcement of her death, Schiavo’s parents, Mary and Bob Schindler, and her brother hurriedly entered the hospice in Pinellas Park, Florida.
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> Brother Paul O’Donnell, a spokesman for the Schindlers, said **police denied their request to be with Schiavo when she died** , but that her parents had access to their daughter’s body after her death and prayed.
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> Michael Schiavo, Terri’s husband and guardian, controlled who could visit her and when.
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> John Centonze, the brother of Michael Schiavo’s live-in girlfriend Jodi Centonze, said Michael Schiavo was with Terri Schiavo when she died.

the fuck? I understand (I guess) that they are going to never want to be in a room together, but geez. (Though the article does say they were with her 10 minutes before she died.)

How many weeks til he marries Jodi, you think? :smack:

Shadez

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1189 "2005-03-31T17:39:52Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> I demand that Governor Bush take instant executive action to raise her from the dead!

Failing that Pope George I will have here canonized.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1190 "2005-03-31T17:44:36Z")

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> [@Tapioca Dextrin](#):
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> Failing that Pope George I will have here canonized.

Hey, when are we going to have a Pope Ringo?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1191 "2005-03-31T17:46:18Z")

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Despite her death, I understand Terri is still fully responsive and happily greeting her parents.

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**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1192 "2005-03-31T17:49:31Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> I demand that Governor Bush take instant executive action to raise her from the dead!

Some believe it can [happen](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/31/Schiavo.scene.ap/index.html)

> [@article](#):
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> “I’m not believing the report of man,” the bearded man said. “God will raise her from the dead, and all the world will see it”

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1193 "2005-03-31T17:49:45Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Despite her death, I understand Terri is still fully responsive and happily greeting her parents.

The Schindler’s lawyer described her as “chatty.”

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1194 "2005-03-31T17:51:31Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Despite her death, I understand Terri is still fully responsive and happily greeting her parents.

They’ve called off the funeral too, as all the wailing and music would wake her up from her nap.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1195 "2005-03-31T17:54:04Z")

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> [@Shadez](#):
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> [From CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/31/schiavo/index.html)
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> the fuck? I understand (I guess) that they are going to never want to be in a room together, but geez. (Though the article does say they were with her 10 minutes before she died.)
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> How many weeks til he marries Jodi, you think? :smack:
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> Shadez

You go fuck yourself, shithead. They have spent years calling him everything from an abusive husband to an adulterous, murderer. They get zero consideration.

Everyone from Eve down to Jeep’s Phoenix, may I sit next to you on the bus to hell? I always wanted to sit in the cool section.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1196 "2005-03-31T17:55:28Z")

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_sigh_ May it please the court, I humbly request that the erroneous comma in the above post be removed from life support and allowed to die in what dignity is left to it.

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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1197 "2005-03-31T17:59:06Z")

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RIP Ms. Shaivo, it’s been a long time coming and you earned it.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1198 "2005-03-31T17:59:27Z")

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Has Randal Terry spewed any nonsense yet?

I’m waiting for the lawsuit to bury her instead of cremate her after the autopsy. Although, **DoctorJ**? I heard an autopsy won’t prove conclusively one way or the other.

Maybe her parents need to be there when they open the skull and all the liquid that replaced her brain comes pouring out.

Poor Michael. I don’t think he will ever have a normal life. I hope he sues the bejesus out of everyone that went on national tv and called him a murderer, evil, and an abuser.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1199 "2005-03-31T18:08:32Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Despite her death, I understand Terri is still fully responsive and happily greeting her parents.

No doubt she’ll try to fight off the embalmers just like she tried to fight off the people taking the tube away.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1200 "2005-03-31T18:08:44Z")

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So has Bush ordered MS arrested on murder charges, yet?

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