# Let the poor woman die already! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029 "2005-03-17T19:11:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1221 "2005-03-31T21:11:12Z")
> [@vibrotronica](#): > > I saw that Village Voice article yesterday afternoon. I thought it was an April Fool’s joke. At least, I hoped it was… Would be hard to believe that he could be that much of an asshat (my favorite Doper word) all the way through without believing it. I hope you were right, but not counting on it. ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1222 "2005-03-31T21:11:50Z")
I’d picked 2pm today in the pool. 4 hours off, damnit. Seriously, though, I’m exceedingly happy for Terri. Finally, she can have peace. And how does one go about nominating someone to be Time’s man of the year? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1223 "2005-03-31T21:31:45Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > I raised a glass to her as soon as I heard. Rest in peace, Terri. > > I’m afraid that all the screaming and shit flinging this week may only get worse now that she’s died. > [Here’s](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050331/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_brain_damaged_woman_2) a nice sample. > Somehow I think God’ll survive. Yeah. Just because he sits in some UNRELATED function does not mean he speaks for anyone in an official policy way. For every priest or precher who takes his side, there is another who will take the opposite. Psalms… “A time to live, a time to die.” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1224 "2005-03-31T21:37:03Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > According to CNN this morning, the hospice had asked the family to leave, as they were about to run some tests to determine her condition. Even as we speak, the parents are trying to put spin on it, claiming that the husband somehow deliberately kept them out. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1225 "2005-03-31T22:17:38Z")
> [@brownie55](#): > > I was really dumbfounded to see Nat Hentoff had written this pack of lies. If all I knew about Hentoff was from the occasional column that gets printed in the paper here, I would firmly believe he was an arch-conservative, somewhere around Pat Buchanan. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1226 "2005-03-31T22:22:06Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Yeah. Just because he sits in some UNRELATED function does not mean he speaks for anyone in an official policy way. For every priest or precher who takes his side, there is another who will take the opposite. > > Psalms… “A time to live, a time to die.” I’m pretty sure that’s Ecclesiastes. Though I agree with the idea. Interesting read as well. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1227 "2005-03-31T22:31:47Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Just because he sits in some UNRELATED function does not mean he speaks for anyone in an official policy way. It’s not unrelated at all if you think about it. He’s the head of the Office for Sainthood. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1228 "2005-03-31T22:32:05Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Everyone from Eve down to Jeep’s Phoenix, may I sit next to you on the bus to hell? I always wanted to sit in the cool section. I’m cool now!!! 🆒 Oh, by the way, you’re welcome to have a seat. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1229 "2005-03-31T22:50:36Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > If all I knew about Hentoff was from the occasional column that gets printed in the paper here, I would firmly believe he was an arch-conservative, somewhere around Pat Buchanan. I did not remember him that way, but is has been a while since I last read him. Maybe he suffered from a recto-cranial inversion. ---
**Author:** ![Shadez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Shadez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadez)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1230 "2005-03-31T23:33:53Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Even as we speak, the parents are trying to put spin on it, claiming that the husband somehow deliberately kept them out. Apparently now they are saying that two siblings were in the room when the hospice workers asked them to leave (but not Michael). The husband refused a request by the brother to allow him to stay in the room. The parents themselves were denied by the police (not Michael). Though I don’t really agree with the wording of this from the same [CNN article](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/31/schiavo/index.html): > [@](#): > > “It’s our understanding that the Schindlers spent some time with Terri’s body,” Felos said. “They were free to spend as much time as they chose with her body. After they left, the hospice workers bathed Terri’s body.” Yes…as if spending the time with a body makes up for spending time with a Terri while alive (though I must admit serveral times I thought they should be spending more time with her and less time with courses of action that would not likely pan out…) Also the repititon of ‘body’ gets annoying fast, but that’s a tangent. /S ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1231 "2005-03-31T23:36:36Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Psalms… “A time to live, a time to die.” Turn, turn, turn to Ecclesiastes ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1232 "2005-04-01T00:02:27Z")
For whoever asked about Randall Terry, I heard him on NPR saying how pointless the autopsy would be because it wouldn’t show what future technologies could have done to save her life. Words fail me. At least Terri is at peace. And have we started a pool on the length of time before the wrongful death suits crop up? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1233 "2005-04-01T00:02:41Z")
You’re right. It’s a bitch when you know the words but don’t remember exactly WHERE they came from 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1234 "2005-04-01T00:05:16Z")
> [@Shadez](#): > > Yes…as if spending the time with a body makes up for spending time with a Terri while alive (though I must admit serveral times I thought they should be spending more time with her and less time with courses of action that would not likely pan out…) Also the repititon of ‘body’ gets annoying fast, but that’s a tangent. > > /S If you were Michael, would you really want to be there with the Schindlers the moment that Terri died? If I were in his place, I’d be afraid one or all of them would fly into a total rage and try to assault me, if not physically than verbally. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1235 "2005-04-01T00:40:59Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > If you were Michael, would you really want to be there with the Schindlers the moment that Terri died? If I were in his place, I’d be afraid one or all of them would fly into a total rage and try to assault me, if not physically than verbally. My husband commented that he was probably afraid one of them would try to perform CPR on her. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1236 "2005-04-01T01:05:53Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > For whoever asked about Randall Terry, I heard him on NPR saying how pointless the autopsy would be because it wouldn’t show what future technologies could have done to save her life. > > Words fail me. Me, too. but I had to paste it, just so that I could be sure that I read it correctly… Randall is managing to walk w/o a cerebral cortex–it’s a miracle! ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1237 "2005-04-01T02:06:44Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Cleave? Well, the word was in **my** marriage vows, but then I’m an old fart. 🙂 > > It’s a promise to be faithful to your spouse. > > Before someone jumps on me because I don’t know what Terri and Michael’s wedding vows were, I think a promise of fidelity is pretty standard. Have you read his vows and can say what they were? There was no such thing in mine, for example. There probably was in theirs, I admit, but I think in extraordinary circumstances only an absolute idiot or asshole would criticize him for moving on. And I don’t think that by moving on he is showing any less love or caring for Terri. ---
**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1238 "2005-04-01T02:10:24Z")
I hope things calm down for Terri’s family soon. Oh, and as bad as the protests, rhetoric, and threats of violence were, apparently they could have been [much, much worse](http://www.petoskeynews.com/articles/2005/03/30/news/local_regional/news01.txt). That Norm Olson. What a wacky guy. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1239 "2005-04-01T02:13:55Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > It’s not unrelated at all if you think about it. He’s the head of the Office for Sainthood. Doesn’t mean a thing to me. It is like asking a plumber about electronics, or an astrophysicist about bass playing. Expertise in one area does not make him an expert in other areas. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1240 "2005-04-01T02:17:05Z")
A Father Pavone on Foxnews is saying if America knew what she went through, they wouldn’t be so for it,that Michael’sattorney was sugar coating the “She looks peaceful”. He said she looked non peaceful and they wouldn’tl et him take a camera in. Would it have been bad for them to showwhat she was really going through? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029.md?page=63)