# Let the poor woman die already!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 17, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029 "2005-03-17T19:11:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1241 "2005-04-01T02:21:53Z")

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I think Alan Colmes just told Randall Terry he needed mental health counseling! I knew I liked that guy (Alan). 🙂

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1242 "2005-04-01T02:24:30Z")

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> [@look!ninjas](#):
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> I hope things calm down for Terri’s family soon.
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> Oh, and as bad as the protests, rhetoric, and threats of violence were, apparently they could have been [much, much worse](http://www.petoskeynews.com/articles/2005/03/30/news/local_regional/news01.txt). That Norm Olson. What a wacky guy.

You know, I’ll bet certain folks who backed the Schindlers on this are starting to look at this situation the way the baffled protagonists of H.P. Lovecraft stories begin to look at ancient tomes of unimaginable power. So tempting to try, but once you’re in you realize that untold eldritch horrors can be unleashed…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1243 "2005-04-01T02:24:33Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> A Father Pavone on Foxnews is saying if America knew what she went through, they wouldn’t be so for it,that Michael’sattorney was sugar coating the “She looks peaceful”. He said she looked non peaceful and they wouldn’tl et him take a camera in. Would it have been bad for them to showwhat she was really going through?

Yes, it would have-not because she was being tortured, but because she deserved her dignity-not her parents flashing those horridly humiliating videos and photos and audio clips.

You should know better than to listen to Fox fucking News. (Although I’m watching now, if only because Jay Wolfson (the guardian ad litem) is on talking to Hannity and Colmes. When he leaves, I’m switching).

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1244 "2005-04-01T02:25:42Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> I think Alan Colmes just told Randall Terry he needed mental health counseling! I knew I liked that guy (Alan). 🙂

Ooh! Alan’s gonna get a spanking from Sean tonight for that one…

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1245 "2005-04-01T02:57:22Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> For whoever asked about Randall Terry, I heard him on NPR saying how pointless the autopsy would be because it wouldn’t show what future technologies could have done to save her life.

I heard the same thing and all I could think was, “What? Are you prepared to wait for nano-technology to rebuild her missing cerebral cortex from her DNA?” That technology’s a long way off and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Terry and his ilk oppose it, based on the opposition to stem cell research.

Fortunately, not long afterwards, I heard something new and pleasant. People who actually _knew_ Terry Schiavo, the human being talking about her and what she was like, including the boy who moved in next to her when she was 4 years old. Another friend, a woman, talked about Ms. Schiavo telling her about how she had a date with a guy named “Michael.” Michael Schiavo was apparently her first serious boyfriend. Despite what a coworker of mine believes about him, I think Ms. – no, make that _Mrs._ Schiavo did very well indeed!

Terry Schiavo, may your body join your soul in resting in peace.  
CJ

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1246 "2005-04-01T05:16:37Z")

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> [@look!ninjas](#):
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> I hope things calm down for Terri’s family soon.
> 
> Oh, and as bad as the protests, rhetoric, and threats of violence were, apparently they could have been [much, much worse](http://www.petoskeynews.com/articles/2005/03/30/news/local_regional/news01.txt). That Norm Olson. What a wacky guy.

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> “We the people are the final judges, not the black-robed demons. I do not believe that 70 percent of the American people thought it was wrong for government to get involved. They turned around when they believed Terri Schiavo’s was a lost cause and wanted to be on the winning side.”
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> “America has lost hope because, where there’s life there’s hope, but it is the black-robed devils who are deciding who lives and dies.”

Wacky doesn’t even come close. Remember, this guy was so nutty his own militia kicked him out.

Makes one wonder what exactly he would’ve done had he taken her to a safe house. Tried to reinsert the feeding tube himself or just choked her on bread and water.

In the end it’s just more hollow bluster from a spotlight seeking attention whore.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1247 "2005-04-01T05:22:52Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> In the end it’s just more hollow bluster from a spotlight seeking attention whore.

Your words are too kind. I just can’t think of any that are vile and vicious enough.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1248 "2005-04-01T12:50:50Z")

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He’s not worth any venom. The man was never going to try to break in to the hospice. He’s the sort of guy who threatens violence, backs down when someone stands up to him, and tells his friends that he _would’ve_ kicked the guys ass but didn’t want to get arrested for it.

There are so many more people in this whole mess that deserve so much more than Norm Olsen.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1249 "2005-04-01T12:55:26Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Ooh! Alan’s gonna get a spanking from Sean tonight for that one…

So in the end, everybody wins.

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**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1250 "2005-04-01T13:18:28Z")

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So do you figure that all the people who took vows to fast until she was hooked back up to the feeding tube will go through with it and starve? Now that would be some serious conviction.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1251 "2005-04-01T14:48:17Z")

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> [@flight](#):
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> So do you figure that all the people who took vows to fast until she was hooked back up to the feeding tube will go through with it and starve? Now that would be some serious conviction.

As well as a sure entry in the Darwin Awards.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1252 "2005-04-01T14:50:15Z")

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> [@flight](#):
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> So do you figure that all the people who took vows to fast until she was hooked back up to the feeding tube will go through with it and starve? Now that would be some serious conviction.

Not to mention a useful cleansing of the gene pool.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1253 "2005-04-01T15:11:15Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Not to mention a useful cleansing of the gene pool.

Sort of an ethic cleansing, really… 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1254 "2005-04-01T18:41:53Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> Just now on TV, the Schindler’s jackass lawyer is claiming Terri Schiavo’s **religious freedom** is being denied. :wally

Was she Catholic? If so, by defying her wishes as found by 19 different judges, her religious freedom was denied, by the parents and the feds.

The pope’s 1980 declaration on euthanasia said that one need not use disproportionately burdensome measures to sustain life. Even if the treatment is in place, if it proves burdensome it can be removed.  
Church doctrine is that one is not morally obliged to undergo any intervention.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-poor-woman-die-already/295029/1255 "2005-04-02T22:30:57Z")

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If anyone’s interested, David Rees has some commentary on the Schiavo case mixed in among the blunt, angry dark humor in his latest strips:

[http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war45.html](http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war45.html)

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