# Let The Slippery Slope Begin: Government Contractors Using Hobby Lobby Ruling To Deny LGBT Rights **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 3, 2014, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238 "2014-07-03T00:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/161 "2014-07-17T17:08:53Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Nah, I’m good there, thanks. I should have said, “If anyone needs this explained,” – I knew you knew it. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/162 "2014-07-17T17:51:37Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > and so is trying to impose one’s own dumbness on others. > > Bad science and hoodoo superstition and a bit of “control freak” tossed in for good measure. The thing is, **Steve** , (may I call you “Steve”?) your post is the _exact_ type of post **Bryan Eckers** was lampooning. Buddy, you are arguing with a joke, and because you _are_ arguing with a small joke, it makes the joke even funnier. I’d even call it prescient ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/163 "2014-07-17T18:58:43Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > The thing is, **Steve** , (may I call you “Steve”?) your post is the _exact_ type of post **Bryan Eckers** was lampooning. > > Buddy, you are arguing with a joke, and because you _are_ arguing with a small joke, it makes the joke even funnier. I’d even call it prescient minkey, (may I call you “minkey”?), I think this is a tad more scornful of Steve than is deserved. At worst, his comment is a bit extraneous, like from someone who adds an post-punchline “Yeah, the _other side_, because that’s where the chicken wanted to go and is therefore why he crossed the street.” I gather Steve and I are in agreement regarding bad science, hoodoo and control-freakery, it was just a borderline inopportune time and manner to say so. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/164 "2014-07-17T21:07:55Z")
“Minkey”? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/165 "2014-07-17T21:28:58Z")
You know, I’m beginning to want to side with fucking **Bricker** , and I will tell you why. I don’t normally side with him in political issues, but he is the only one here who seems to understand how complicated freedom of religion can be. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/166 "2014-07-17T21:41:38Z")
And another thing! I’ve had a long day / last night. (I’m a nightshift RN who is very, very tired right now.) Also a little drunk. So if y’all could just ignore my past coupe of posts,I’d aprreciate it ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/167 "2014-07-17T22:02:47Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > You know, I’m beginning to want to side with fucking **Bricker** , and I will tell you why. I don’t normally side with him in political issues, but he is the only one here who seems to understand how complicated freedom of religion can be. A ringing endorsement. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/168 "2014-07-17T22:06:46Z")
The three quarters drunk insomniac seal of approval. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/169 "2014-07-18T05:35:15Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > “Minkey”? Sorry, I thought was “spell names wrong day.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/170 "2014-07-18T06:42:58Z")
It’s obviously “omit pronouns day” instead. ---
**Author:** ![Bouncer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bouncer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bouncer)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/171 "2014-07-19T02:50:41Z")
Umm… can anyone actually point to a company with USG contracts that has applied for an exemption? Cause I don’t see General Dynamics or Lockheed Martin exactly firing up their lawyers. I’m just curious about this because the claim in the article seems basically made up babble to me. Regards, -Bouncer- ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/172 "2014-07-19T15:58:30Z")
> [@Bouncer](#): > > Umm… can anyone actually point to a company with USG contracts that has applied for an exemption? Cause I don’t see General Dynamics or Lockheed Martin exactly firing up their lawyers. > > I’m just curious about this because the claim in the article seems basically made up babble to me. > > Regards, > -Bouncer- It’s not a completely speculative worry. Plenty of faith-based companies have contracts to provide social services. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238/173 "2014-07-24T17:59:44Z")
By the way: [The President issued the Executive Order](http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/21/executive-order-further-amendments-executive-order-11478-equal-employmen), without including the requested religious exemptions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/let-the-slippery-slope-begin-government-contractors-using-hobby-lobby-ruling-to-deny-lgbt-rights/692238.md?page=8)