# Let'm know how y'all tawk

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 22, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811 "2003-02-22T18:27:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Improbability](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Improbability](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improbability)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/41 "2003-02-24T13:28:10Z")

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I have very Irish (northern) accent even though I live in the UK now. I just hope I never lose it.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/42 "2003-02-24T14:36:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by brianjedi \*  
> \*\*For the record, the answer to Question 77 should be “cutting donuts,” not “doing donuts.” \*\*

In AZ we did donuts, we did not cut them.

I took that survey a long time ago and it was really strange to see how wrong some people are about what they say ;D

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/43 "2003-02-24T14:39:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BuckleberryFerry \*  
> \*\*In defense of “The devil is beating his wife:”
> 
> Beating your wife is a bad thing. Therefore, rain.
> 
> But…It’s the devil’s wife. Therefore evil getting it’s ass kicked. Therefore, sun.
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> Heard it but don’t use it. I prefer sunshower. \*\*

First off, rain is a good thing. 😛  
Second… I’ve never heard it called anything other than “raining while the sun is out”.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/44 "2003-02-24T14:43:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tanookie \*  
> \*\*What I really wanna know is if 97 percent of people call a drink with milk and icecream a milkshake (I say frappe) What do they call a frothed drink with just milk and syrup? (this is different than just adding hershey’s syrup and stirring) \*\*

I’ve never met anyone who called the ice cream and milk thing anything other than a milkshake or a shake.

The other thing you mention… I’ve never heard of such a drink so I don’t have a name for it.

WTF is a frappe? How do you pronounce it? “frap” ? “frappay”?

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/45 "2003-02-24T15:13:18Z")

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I don’t know if it’s entirely fair on the poor researchers for me to take the study (a linguistics major who took dialectology last semester 🙂 … and furthermore, who grew up in Winnipeg but who has tons of Quebec English lexical items…!)

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/46 "2003-02-24T15:14:15Z")

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Is there ANYONE in the Straight Dope populace that says, Whipping Shitties? Anyone? I’m still not over that one!

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/47 "2003-02-24T15:14:41Z")

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Frappe … rhymes with cap…

Milk, ice cream, syrup and my favorite has crushed Oreos too!!!

a milk shake is when they use the frappe machine but don’t use ice cream 🙂

At least I don’t call a frappe a cabinet (but I know people who do)

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/48 "2003-02-24T15:44:26Z")

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tanookie: where do you live? Just wondering. I’ve never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever heard anyone who called something a milkshake that didn’t have ice cream in it.

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**Author:** ![Skelji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Skelji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skelji)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/49 "2003-02-24T15:50:40Z")

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1. What is your generic term for a sweetened carbonated beverage?  
a) soda  
b) pop  
…etc.  
**i) dope**

Dope?

_Dope???_

Who in hell says “dope”???

Well, back to the Straight Soda Message Board, I guess.

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/50 "2003-02-24T16:01:34Z")

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Opal …

I live in Massachusetts… I’ve always called it a frappe… the restaurants have frappes and milkshakes on the menu… _shrug_

I had a lot of relatives from the New Bedford area and I always thought they had funny names for things… subs were grinders  
tonic for coke/soda and that was the only place you could get pizza with linguica or chorice (said shureese)

I must say I’d never hear of many of the expressions in the survey and Parallax and I had a great laugh over some!

I always thought the grass between the sidewalk and the road was just more sidewalk…

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**Author:** ![Beija](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a8b319/32.png) [@Beija](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beija)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/51 "2003-02-24T17:31:19Z")

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Tanookie: Where I grew up (just outside of Boston), a grinder was a sub that was heated under a broiler. You could only find them in Greek pizzerias.

A frappe has ice cream, a milk shake doesn’t. According to my dictionary, a milk shake is “a thoroughly shaken or blended drink made of milk, a flavoring syrup, and often ice cream”. A frappe is “a partly frozen drink”; or “a thick milk shake”. Thick because of the ice cream.

The first time I visited Montreal I sat down in a café and asked what kind of “tonic” they had. The waiter said “Schweppes” and I asked, “that’s it?” Nod of the head. “All right then.” Next thing I know I’m drinking “quinine water” while the waiter serves a coke to the person at the next table…

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/52 "2003-02-24T17:47:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*  
> \*\*Do those who pronounce cot and caught the same also pronounce tock and talk the same? \*\*

I used to pronounce the “L” in “talk” and “walk,” until my freshman year in college. I had a horrible mean friend from Colorado (hey, freshman year, I was lonely) who mocked (malked?) me gigglingly and mercilessly every time I pronounced the L. Finally I told her I’d PROVE to her that you were supposed to pronounce that L, and I pulled out the dictionary and looked up the pronunciation.

Tok.

Wok.

Oh, the humiliation.

Ever since, I’ve left the L out, and when other people say it, it serves to remind me of my shame. 🙂

Daniel

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**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/53 "2003-02-24T18:36:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*  
> \*\*I like the idea of the survey, and I think it’s a great undertaking. But I’m wondering how accurate it really is. For example, I’ve never heard anyone who is a native southerner pronounce “cot” the same as “caught”. \*\*

_raises hand_ I say it that way. But like Loopus, I’m a Texan so I don’t know if that really counts as being a native southerner.

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**Author:** ![Beija](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a8b319/32.png) [@Beija](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beija)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/54 "2003-02-24T18:43:52Z")

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No one has explained yet exactly how you would pronouce “cot” and “caught” differently. I just can’t imagine it.

Anyone?

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**Author:** ![Alto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Alto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alto)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/55 "2003-02-24T18:54:20Z")

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**Beija**

Caht and cawt, of cawse.  
Growing up in Seattle, I used to get made fun of for saying “tawk” like my Brooklyn parents, instead of “tok.”

Re frappe. When I arrived in college in Boston, they actually warned us in the student handbook:

The thing you call a milkshake in the rest of the country is called a frappe in Massachusetts, so be careful when ordering.

The flavored milk thing they call a milkshake in Massachusetts is sort of like an egg cream, but I don’t think you can even get it in most of the country.

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/56 "2003-02-24T18:54:22Z")

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Cot is just, well, “cot.” Caught is “cawt.” They definitely sound different. To hear the difference, go to [www.m-w.com](http://www.m-w.com) and look up both words. They let you click to hear the pronunciation.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/57 "2003-02-24T19:02:53Z")

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Hmm… you’re not supposed to pronounce the L in talk and walk? Odd. Tokking and wokking sounds stupid to my ears so I’ll continue to mispronounce my words.

So, yeah… I pronounce tock and talk differently while pronouncing cot and caught the same, **Libertarian**.

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**Author:** ![Beija](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a8b319/32.png) [@Beija](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beija)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/58 "2003-02-24T19:06:23Z")

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Aaaaaaah. I get it. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/59 "2003-02-24T19:25:25Z")

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I may pronounce the l in talk and walk but I say em tahk and wahk… 🙂

cot is kot and caught is caht

Now no one has mentioned bubblers thus far (or I missed it) My friend was ridiculed relentlessly when she went to Texas to visit her brother and asked where one was 🙂

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letm-know-how-yall-tawk/156811/60 "2003-02-24T20:02:27Z")

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I say, “The Devil’s beating his wife,” when it rains while the sun is shining. I grew up in Western Kentucky.

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