# Let's cheer the right-wing smear machine! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 12, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768 "2005-08-12T19:25:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/121 "2005-08-13T18:41:29Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Let’s all remember that Bush could not have sent troops to Iraq without the authorization of Congress. Funny…but I don’t see Cindy Sheehan camped outside of John Kerry or Hillary Clinton’s office asking why _they_ voted to send her son to his death. Good job. Less than 40 posts and you manage to bring up a Clinton. You must be, like, **Sam Stone** ’s hero. Personally, while I think Congress has some culpability, only those on intellgence committees have any real blame to share. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/122 "2005-08-13T18:55:22Z")
Pure pettifoggery, **John**. Does GeeDub bear some extra responsibility that the rest of us don’t directly share? Yes, I rather imagine he does. Have his decisions had an unfortunate and direct impact on her life? Quite. Would I expect such a gesture from a man who has made such a Pharisee display of his own Christian compassion and openness? Indeed. In that context, a bit of bi-partisan courtesy seems not at all out of line. For my own two bits, the truly correct gesture would be to crawl on all fours from his door to her location, fling himself at her feet and blubber abjectly for her forgiveness. None of which, I need hardly mention, is incumbent upon friend **rjung**. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/123 "2005-08-13T19:42:13Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Have you considered that perhaps she isn’t out only for herself? That her motivations might be those of a citizen as well as of a grieving mother? That’s entirely possible. It is certainly not consistent with what she is saying in the press, though. But of course, what I’m getting filtered through the press is not necessarily the whole picture of truth. Hey, it’s her decision, not mine. I just feel really bad for her, and I suspect that if she does get her meeting (unlikely, as Bush never admits being wrong, so he can’t change his mind and meet with her now) it won’t do her a lot of good. But, I could be wrong. > [@](#): > > Can you conceive of that possibility? Of course. You need less caffeine, dude. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/124 "2005-08-13T20:09:14Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > By way the much esteemed _Daily Kos_ > [http://www.dailykos.com/](http://www.dailykos.com/) > > Offered without comment. Afraid I can’t do the same. I hereby propose that friend **Scylla** hitch a ride in said bus, don whatever military garb suits his fancy – while still managing to hold his bizarre, beef-jerky wrapped genitalia in place – and continue his bugle-boy act for the Neocrazies right across the road from Cindy Sheehan. Should be good enough for a few wet dreams and about as close to combat as he’s ever going to get. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/125 "2005-08-13T21:39:29Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Since your compasion is so much purer, why don’t you send her some fucking lemonade, you moron. In lieu of lemonade, I sent money instead. Does that satisfy your sanctimonious judgmental scree, **John?** ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/126 "2005-08-13T21:48:05Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Pure pettifoggery, **John**. Look. Bush is not going to apologize for the war. He has, in his official capacity as President, met with Sheehan and her husband. That was the compassionate thing to do, the right thing to do. The fact that she is now a protestor is of no more import than any of the the thousands of other protestors out there. The only exception is that she is a media darling in a slow news month. None of us begrudge her the right to protest in any way she sees fit. But that gives her ZERO claim on an additional meeting with the president. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go have a glass of lemonade (with a shot or two of vodka in it). ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/127 "2005-08-13T22:04:57Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Personally, while I think Congress has some culpability, only those on intellgence committees have any real blame to share. Right - [those fucking liars on intelligence committees deserve all the blame.](http://www.factcheck.org/article241.html) Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/128 "2005-08-13T22:39:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Right - [those fucking liars on intelligence committees deserve all the blame.](http://www.factcheck.org/article241.html) Be fair, it’s the fucking liars who cut off the flow of information to the intelligence committees after september 11th who deserve all the blame: > [@](#): > > The only Members of Congress whom you or your expressly designated officers may brief regarding classified or sensitive law enforcement information are the Speaker of the House, the House Minority Leader, the Senate Majority and Minority Leaders, and the Chairs and Ranking Members of the Intelligence Committees in the House and Senate. > > [signed:] George W. Bush [October 5, 2001](http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2001/10/gwb100501.html) ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/129 "2005-08-13T23:28:38Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > So what did the recruiting sergeant tell you about your eligibility when you went to the enlistment center, tough guy? Or did you take up the time telling him about your Big Dog Theory? Nyahh. We talked about your Mom. Apparently servicemen the world over are grateful. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/130 "2005-08-13T23:41:38Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > – and continue his bugle-boy act for the Neocrazies right across the road from Cindy Sheehan. Should be good enough for a few wet dreams and about as close to combat as he’s ever going to get. Rather than just call you a moron, I’ll explain why you are one. I don’t want to go to combat. A rational and intelligent person debates or considers what is said to him, and forms his responses appropriately. A moron doesnt’ actually listen. He assigns motivations based on what he’d like to hear. In other words, a rational individual responds to reality. A moron makes up his own. There are other consequences to false attribution. Most major religions recognize bearing false witness as a great sin. For you, being a moron is more than a simple character flaw. If you don’t smarten up you’ll end up in hell when you die and spend the rest of eternity getting anally raped by Beelzebub’s giant, flaming, and barbed member. So, I think you should you say your sorry. ---
**Author:** ![mrunlucky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@mrunlucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrunlucky)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/131 "2005-08-13T23:42:12Z")
I’m partial to the right-wing smear machine active within this very thread. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/132 "2005-08-13T23:46:44Z")
> [@mrunlucky](#): > > I’m partial to the right-wing smear machine active within this very thread. Said device is actually a **Pap-smear** machine that we’ve converted over for liberals. Surprisingly easy job, but then, it **was** originally designed to work on pussies. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/133 "2005-08-13T23:51:48Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Rather than just call you a moron, I’ll explain why you are one. > > I don’t want to go to combat. > > A rational and intelligent person debates or considers what is said to him, and forms his responses appropriately. > > A moron doesnt’ actually listen. He assigns motivations based on what he’d like to hear. In other words, a rational individual responds to reality. A moron makes up his own. > > There are other consequences to false attribution. Most major religions recognize bearing false witness as a great sin. > > For you, being a moron is more than a simple character flaw. If you don’t smarten up you’ll end up in hell when you die and spend the rest of eternity getting anally raped by Beelzebub’s giant, flaming, and barbed member. > > So, I think you should you say your sorry. Is this irony? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/134 "2005-08-13T23:54:10Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Rather than just call you a moron, I’ll explain why you are one. > > I don’t want to go to combat. > > A rational and intelligent person debates or considers what is said to him, and forms his responses appropriately. > > A moron doesnt’ actually listen. He assigns motivations based on what he’d like to hear. In other words, a rational individual responds to reality. A moron makes up his own. > > There are other consequences to false attribution. Most major religions recognize bearing false witness as a great sin. > > For you, being a moron is more than a simple character flaw. If you don’t smarten up you’ll end up in hell when you die and spend the rest of eternity getting anally raped by Beelzebub’s giant, flaming, and barbed member. > > So, I think you should you say your sorry. Remembering your circular cites and stupid defense of the swift boat lyers, I have to say that the label does fit you nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/135 "2005-08-14T00:12:32Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > For you, being a moron is more than a simple character flaw. If you don’t smarten up you’ll end up in hell when you die and spend the rest of eternity getting anally raped by Beelzebub’s giant, flaming, and barbed member. > > So, I think you should you say your sorry. For a second, I thought I was having a flashback to when someone said much the same statement to me. [Linky](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=317735#post6184806). ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2005, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/136 "2005-08-14T00:36:25Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > In lieu of lemonade, I sent money instead.\*\* Can I ask to whom and for what, exactly? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/137 "2005-08-14T00:43:27Z")
> [@rayh](#): > > Is this irony? That depends on how you feel about demonic buggery. ---
**Author:** ![Nocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@Nocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nocturne)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/138 "2005-08-14T01:52:48Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Said device is actually a **Pap-smear** machine that we’ve converted over for liberals. Surprisingly easy job, but then, it **was** originally designed to work on pussies. Oh fuck you, you fucking piece of shit. Liberals are pussies? ALL liberals? Based on your posting, I could say that conservatives are a bunch of back-pedalling, lying, imbecilic silver-spoon-entitled shits whose false machismo evaporates the minute they step away from their keyboards. I mean, I could. But then again, I haven’t crammed my head so far up my own rectal cavity that I can lick my own larynx. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2005, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/139 "2005-08-14T03:09:44Z")
> [@Nocturne](#): > > Oh fuck you, you fucking piece of shit. Liberals are pussies? ALL liberals? Well… Yeah. If you want to do reduce it down to it’s basic component, simplest terms, then yes, “Pussy” is the definition of liberal > [@](#): > > Based on your posting, I could say that conservatives are a bunch of back-pedalling, lying, imbecilic silver-spoon-entitled shits whose false machismo evaporates the minute they step away from their keyboards. Or, you could just say conservatives are “dicks.” If you did you would have stumbled upon the great liberal/conservative, pussy/dick, ying/yang fundamental dichotomy upon which all is based. > [@](#): > > I mean, I could. But then again, I haven’t crammed my head so far up my own rectal cavity that I can lick my own larynx. Why not? One thing’s for sure. That would be a great party trick. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2005, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768/140 "2005-08-14T03:54:45Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Or, you could just say conservatives are “dicks.” Sure explains how Americans have been getting fucked these past few years [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-cheer-the-right-wing-smear-machine/316768.md?page=8)