# Let's design a liberal American flag **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 20, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687 "2021-06-20T14:44:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/1 "2021-06-20T14:44:02Z")
Conservatives have somewhat appropriated the American flag; flying one risks being painted as a knuckle-dragger. If they want to make it more obvious they have multiple options, like the black flag, Betsy Ross, or the thin blue line. We need an unabashedly American flag that also says we don’t support insurrectionists. My suggestion is a flag with a single green stripe, similar to the thin blue line. It’ll have to be a bright green to differentiate it from blue. Another possibility is a flag with a rainbow of stripes. My concern there is that it’s not obviously inclusive of minorities but there would be no confusion as to the intent. It would be a great flag for Pride day. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/2 "2021-06-20T14:57:43Z")
Old Glory is my flag and I will not allow the forces of ignorance to commandeer her. No quarter ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/3 "2021-06-20T15:06:20Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > We need an unabashedly American flag that also says we don’t support insurrectionists. My suggestion is a flag with a single green stripe, similar to the thin blue line. It’ll have to be a bright green to differentiate it from blue. Already taken. A green stripe means you support the Border Patrol. > **[What Do The Thin Line Colors Mean? - Aspire Gear](https://www.aspiregear.com/what-do-the-thin-line-colors-mean/)** > > What do the thin line colors mean? Each Thin Line color was designed to represent and honor one of the many service-based professions. Two service groups for which the Thin ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/4 "2021-06-20T15:10:24Z")
Lets replace the stars with marijuana leaves. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/5 "2021-06-20T15:15:14Z")
All 50 at once, or one for each state that legalizes it? ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/6 "2021-06-20T16:22:05Z")
Well boo. I guess that leaves the rainbow flag. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/7 "2021-06-20T16:50:34Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Old Glory is my flag and I will not allow the forces of ignorance to commandeer her. No quarter I agree. It’s not THEIR flag. ---
**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/8 "2021-06-20T16:51:43Z")
[![](https://i.imgur.com/vjQwX79.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/vjQwX79.jpg) [![](https://i.imgur.com/arv46wn.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/arv46wn.jpg) Leaves no room for ambiguity or unfounded interpretations, I hope. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/9 "2021-06-20T18:36:09Z")
Anyone who flies the black flag has forfeited the right to use the real one. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/10 "2021-06-20T20:09:50Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > It’s not THEIR flag. It’s our (all of us) flag. Fly old glory at Pride marches and Juneteenth celebrations It represents our great experiment in democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/11 "2021-06-20T20:22:04Z")
Flying a modification of the flag, like the Blue Line or the black flag, is a sign of lack of patriotism. The flag code is clear that using the American flag as the basis for some other flag is disrespectful. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/12 "2021-06-20T20:33:42Z")
Just fly one with a gold fringe. That says we’re not the on the side of conspiracy theorist people. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/13 "2021-06-20T20:40:41Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > Conservatives have somewhat appropriated the American flag; flying one risks being painted as a knuckle-dragger. If they want to make it more obvious they have multiple options, like the black flag, Betsy Ross, or the thin blue line. I was quite sad when the Gadsden Flag became associated with the Tea Party movement as I was no longer comfortable displaying it in my home. I’m not letting them take Old Glory from me. They can fight me for it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/14 "2021-06-20T23:52:15Z")
If you read the whole flag code I doubt you’d find anyone who abides by all that nonsense. Intent determines respect not arcane rules that nobody knows. In any event those modifications you mentioned are still more respectful than the weirdos who burn and stomp on the flag which is typically far left theater. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/15 "2021-06-20T23:55:22Z")
A flag with 52 stars for Porto Rico and DC statehood. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/16 "2021-06-20T23:56:48Z")
A flag that says BLM, LGBTQ, Coexist, and cannabis, in five languages ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/17 "2021-06-21T00:15:13Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > In any event those modifications you mentioned are still more respectful than the weirdos who burn and stomp on the flag which is typically far left theater. - You mean like Trump dry-humping the flag while the GOP pelvic-thrusted in unison? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/18 "2021-06-21T03:15:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Flying a modification of the flag, like the Blue Line or the black flag, is a sign of lack of patriotism. The flag code is clear that using the American flag as the basis for some other flag is disrespectful. There is a singer/songwriter named Macy Gray (whose work I do not know) who has been floating an idea of replacing the all-white stars with multi-colored stars, to represent diversity. (Not so incidentally, there is an artist named Kate Kretz who filed a copyright for this idea in February 2020, something to remember when one is arguing the merits or otherwise of this flag idea.) Anyway, of all the revisions this seems both radical enough to inspire attention, but still recognizably the same flag. Good luck agreeing what all the colors should be and where they should be placed, though. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/19 "2021-06-21T04:51:05Z")
here’s Macy’s flag [![](https://imagez.tmz.com/image/47/4by3/2021/06/19/47cd8bde15094867ad2954260683c822_md.jpg) ](https://imagez.tmz.com/image/47/4by3/2021/06/19/47cd8bde15094867ad2954260683c822_md.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687/20 "2021-06-21T05:20:16Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > A flag with 52 stars for Porto Rico and DC statehood. Beat me to it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-design-a-liberal-american-flag/944687.md?page=2)