# Lets do the Time Warp...Again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 26, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828 "2008-07-26T05:48:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/1 "2008-07-26T05:48:06Z")

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It looks like [MTV is remaking _The Rocky Horror Picture Show_.](http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117989391.html?categoryid=14&cs=1). No casting announced yet, though, so let’s help them out, folks.

Frankenfurter-Johnny Depp  
Eddie-Jack Black

That’s all I’ve got so far.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/2 "2008-07-26T16:07:01Z")

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Makes no difference who they cast, I won’t watch it. There are at least three sequel scripts from Richard O’Brien out there; why not make one of those instead of fucking up yet another classic? Did they learn nothing from their “Carmen” debacle? Apparently not.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/3 "2008-07-26T16:17:25Z")

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It’s like the remakes of _The Lion in Winter_ or _Psycho_ or _Miracle on 34th Street_. What’s the point in remaking a movie that was made right the first time?

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/4 "2008-07-26T16:32:52Z")

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Must be an ego thing.  
I always wonder about it when I hear a crappy version of a classic song, like [without you](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOR_jq9M53c). I mean, Nilsson did the definitive version - does everyone else think that they can top it?

There have been a few movies where the remakes were better than the original, but usually the original was clearly a poor effort with a potentially good script. Here’s a very short [list](http://moviemorlocks.com/2006/10/29/did-he-say-remakes-that-are-better-than-their-originals/).

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/5 "2008-07-26T16:38:31Z")

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Really, who cares about anyone but a naked Janet?

I nominate Anne Hathaway.

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**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/6 "2008-07-26T16:44:16Z")

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As a fan and former “floor show” cast member at my local theater, I may be in the minority here, but I welcome the chance to see what something resembling a decent budget would do for RHPS. My only problem is with MTV producing it. If this is the case, you can probably forget about Depp or Black (both excellent choices, IMHO, but waaaay beyond MTV’s budget). We’re more likely to see Johnny Knoxville (blech) as Frank.

If it absolutely _has_ to be remade, I’d rather see it made for the big screen. Besides the aforementioned Depp and Black, I’d like to see:

Brad–Actually, I think _this_ would be the role for Depp.  
Frank–Kevin Spacey  
Janet–Maggie Gyllenhall  
Magenta–Gwen Stefani

And, for the requisite “returning original cast member”, either Tim Curry as The Criminologist or Meat Loaf as Dr. Scott.

And the whole shebang directed by **JOHN WATERS!!!**

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/7 "2008-07-26T18:07:08Z")

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I’ve seen several stage productions of _Rocky Horror_, and I enjoyed them all (even the bad ones). The prospect of a remake doesn’t faze me.

I nominate [Pauley Perrette](http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/80/250px-Pauley_perrette.jpg) as Columbia. You just know this gal can tapdance.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/8 "2008-07-26T18:29:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
It’s like the remakes of _The Lion in Winter_ or _Psycho_ or _Miracle on 34th Street_. What’s the point in remaking a movie that was made right the first time?  
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$$$$?

Frankly (heh), I think that Tim Curry’s playing of Frankenfurter is untouchable. I can’t imagine watching _Sweet Transvestite_ on the screen and seeing a remake as anything but a pale shadow.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/9 "2008-07-26T19:13:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Eonwe]  
Frankly (heh), I think that Tim Curry’s playing of Frankenfurter is untouchable. I can’t imagine watching _Sweet Transvestite_ on the screen and seeing a remake as anything but a pale shadow.  
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Eddie Izzard looks quite a bit like Tim Curry. Anyone know if he can sing?

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/10 "2008-07-26T19:16:33Z")

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[QUOTE=want2know]  
As a fan and former “floor show” cast member at my local theater, I may be in the minority here, but I welcome the chance to see what something resembling a decent budget would do for RHPS. My only problem is with MTV producing it. If this is the case, you can probably forget about Depp or Black (both excellent choices, IMHO, but waaaay beyond MTV’s budget). We’re more likely to see Johnny Knoxville (blech) as Frank.

If it absolutely _has_ to be remade, I’d rather see it made for the big screen. Besides the aforementioned Depp and Black, I’d like to see:

Brad–Actually, I think _this_ would be the role for Depp.  
Frank–Kevin Spacey  
Janet–Maggie Gyllenhall  
Magenta–Gwen Stefani

And, for the requisite “returning original cast member”, either Tim Curry as The Criminologist or Meat Loaf as Dr. Scott.

And the whole shebang directed by **JOHN WATERS!!!**  
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Casting Maggie Gyllenhall as Janet just made me get a hillarious image… the cast of The Dark Knight as the cast of Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Actually, now I’m reminded of a previous amusement a friend and I came up with, what if Robert Rodriguez remade RHPS?

Frank - Wilem Dafoe  
Brad - Johnny Depp  
Janet - Eva Mendez  
Dr. Scott - Cheech Marin  
Eddie - Antonio Banderas  
Riff-Raff - Danny Trejo  
Magenta - Salma Hayek  
Columbia - Not sure on this one. Johnny Depp in a dual-role? 😃

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/11 "2008-07-26T19:19:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Sage Rat]  
Eddie Izzard looks quite a bit like Tim Curry. Anyone know if he can sing?  
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I dunno, [can he](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P35WWj0DSKY)? 😃

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**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/12 "2008-07-26T19:28:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Raguleader]  
Casting Maggie Gyllenhall as Janet just made me get a hillarious image… the cast of The Dark Knight as the cast of Rocky Horror Picture Show.  
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Actually, you could probably do a lot worse than Christian Bale as Frank…

And Heath Ledger could only play Eddie _after_ he’s dead!

Oh, like none of _you_ thought the same thing!

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/13 "2008-07-26T19:33:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Sage Rat]  
Eddie Izzard looks quite a bit like Tim Curry.  
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And even more like [Tom Hewitt](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rh_broadway_reviv.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/14 "2008-07-27T02:09:18Z")

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I’m mystified by the “If it ain’t big budget, it’s not worth doing” attitude some are showing here. IMHO, if the original had had big stars and a big budget, it wouldn’t be the midnight wonder it is today.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/15 "2008-07-27T03:12:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Sage Rat]  
Eddie Izzard looks quite a bit like Tim Curry. Anyone know if he can sing?  
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He may possibly have the wardrobe already.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/16 "2008-07-27T03:35:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Raguleader]  
I dunno, [can he](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P35WWj0DSKY)? 😃  
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Dunno, he sounds more like a ringmaster timing his words to the music than someone singing in that bit. It’s not clear whether that’s his limit or if that’s all he was trying to do.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/17 "2008-07-28T16:33:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Czarcasm]  
I’m mystified by the “If it ain’t big budget, it’s not worth doing” attitude some are showing here. IMHO, if the original had had big stars and a big budget, it wouldn’t be the midnight wonder it is today.  
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I think that attitude stems from MTV’s involvement; as mentioned upthread, a low budget might mean that we’re treated to the cast and antics of Jackass. How much liberty would MTV take with the plotline, for example?

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**Author:** ![jlrepka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/22d042/32.png) [@jlrepka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlrepka)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/18 "2008-07-28T17:59:26Z")

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There is no justice in the world if Pink is not cast as Magenta…

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/19 "2008-07-28T18:15:37Z")

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Thomas Gibson as Brad Majors.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-do-the-time-warp-again/457828/20 "2008-07-28T19:38:57Z")

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A remake sounds disastrous unless they get the aforementioned Pink as Magenta and John Waters directing. That I would see.

(I had no idea they remade The Lion In Winter…sacrilege! Even counting my abiding love of Glenn Close it is still sacrilege!)

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