# Let's fix baseball

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 17, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991 "2014-06-17T15:24:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991/181 "2014-06-24T22:00:55Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Seeing as he’s not dead, more like screaming and clawing at the lid.

I know he’s not dead, hence the “would.”

Then again, he _is_ working with the Rangers. Given their injury woes this season, he may not be better off in Arlington.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991/182 "2014-06-25T03:20:57Z")

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Hey, I have a small change.

Could teams maybe stop celebrating EVERY regular season walk-off win like they just won the goddamn World Series?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991/183 "2014-06-25T03:24:48Z")

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Totally agree. You’re supposed to act like you’ve done it before, fellas.

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**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991/184 "2014-06-25T10:59:53Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Y’know, **silenus** , you’re making miss [Eric Gregg’s](https://www.google.com/search?q=eric+gregg&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nASpU-T5DMWJogSRnoDACA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw&biw=1600&bih=799#imgdii=_) strike zone.

This just links to hundreds of images, some of Gregg. Where is the definition of his strike zone?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991/185 "2014-06-25T18:52:03Z")

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> [@Fleetwood](#):
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> Where is the definition of his strike zone?

That right there is a question for the ages.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991/186 "2014-06-25T19:04:00Z")

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> [@Fleetwood](#):
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> This just links to hundreds of images, some of Gregg. Where is the definition of his strike zone?

From what I read about Gregg, it wouldn’t have been a surprise if he called a strike on a pickoff throw to first.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991/187 "2014-06-25T20:32:32Z")

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Gregg retired well before Pitch F/X came along, but if you want a general idea, check out [this post](http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/lets-consider-eric-gregg-and-livan-hernandez-in-the-1997-nlcs/) for a number of .gifs of baseballs a foot-plus off the plate being called strikes. We know these days that the zone for left-handed batters is shifted off the plate vs. for right-handed batters (and vs. the rulebook zone), but Gregg exceeded even that by a decent bit.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-fix-baseball/690991/188 "2014-06-26T13:49:29Z")

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> [@Kiros](#):
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> Gregg retired well before Pitch F/X came along, but if you want a general idea, check out [this post](http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/lets-consider-eric-gregg-and-livan-hernandez-in-the-1997-nlcs/) for a number of .gifs of baseballs a foot-plus off the plate being called strikes. We know these days that the zone for left-handed batters is shifted off the plate vs. for right-handed batters (and vs. the rulebook zone), but Gregg exceeded even that by a decent bit.

Retired as in he was one of the umpires who Bud Segal refused to rehire after the Umpires strike. Turned to be kind of a sad case, although he was a horrible balls and strikes umpire.

During one game when he was behind the plate and a left handed hitter up, supposedly an exchange too place like this

(Pitch clearly outside, called a strike)

Hitter: Strike? That was in the right hand batters box

Gregg: yes it was

Hitter: so is that now the strike zone?

Gregg: it must be, because that was a strike.

No idea if this really took place, but I kinda hope it did.

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