# Let's get real about SDMB, you cybernerds! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832 "2006-09-07T21:02:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/121 "2006-09-08T14:42:11Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] The SDMB suks, I suk, you suk. People post too much. Except Valteron. [/QUOTE] That was perfect. Are you an editor? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/122 "2006-09-08T14:52:16Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] I forgot to mention there was a little “trap” embedded in my message. [/QUOTE] Too bad your “message” wasn’t more attractive or you might have actually [caught somebody with it](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9145415). ---
**Author:** ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/123 "2006-09-08T14:59:39Z")
WOW!!! So some of you fail to see what my OP was about? Oh for Chrisssake! To go back to the analogy I made initially concerning the classic Trekkie skit on SNL, I feel like William Shatner when he yells in utter frustration “It’s just a television show, people!” and one of the Trekkies says “Are you saying we should be paying more attention to the Star Trek movies?” Now I realize that my OP was kind of long, and that reading it all may have tired the lips of the less literate among you. So here is a short summary: All this began when I was accused of lack of objectivity because I do not live up to SDMB’s allegedly high ideals of pure, unadulterated exchanges of objective information. If I persist, I stand to lose the respect of my fellow _savants_. I came onto the BBQ pit to say that that is pure, unadulterated bullshit. I am a cybernerd loser and I make no pretence to be other than a bundle of prejudices and preconceived notions with nothing better to do than spend $14 paying other people to post my opinions because normal people with lives will not listen to my rantings. I invite other dopers to try a similar dose of REAL objective self-examination. Is that short and sweet enough fer ya? ---
**Author:** ![Kairos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecc23a/32.png) [@Kairos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kairos)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/124 "2006-09-08T15:00:37Z")
_walks in carrying a sign that says, in large letters, “PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS”_ _plants sign in ground in front of **Valteron** _ _waves to everyone_ _wanders off_ I sincerely apologize for my previous post in this thread. Sometimes the trolls are so cute, you can’t help trying to feed them. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/125 "2006-09-08T15:05:58Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] WOW!!! So some of you fail to see what my OP was about? Oh for Chrisssake! To go back to the analogy I made initially concerning the classic Trekkie skit on SNL, I feel like William Shatner when he yells in utter frustration “It’s just a television show, people!” and one of the Trekkies says “Are you saying we should be paying more attention to the Star Trek movies?” Now I realize that my OP was kind of long, and that reading it all may have tired the lips of the less literate among you. So here is a short summary: All this began when I was accused of lack of objectivity because I do not live up to SDMB’s allegedly high ideals of pure, unadulterated exchanges of objective information. If I persist, I stand to lose the respect of my fellow _savants_. I came onto the BBQ pit to say that that is pure, unadulterated bullshit. I am a cybernerd loser and I make no pretence to be other than a bundle of prejudices and preconceived notions with nothing better to do than spend $14 paying other people to post my opinions because normal people with lives will not listen to my rantings. I invite other dopers to try a similar dose of REAL objective self-examination. Is that short and sweet enough fer ya? [/QUOTE] Then why did you put up the post about the “Trap”. That was a fairly deliberate affront to anyone in the thread. Additionally why don’t you answer my polite question to you. It was just a short time ago. Hi, my name is Jim and I am a Cyber Geek (has a better sound to it than CyberNerd). I am addicted to Dope, well the Straight Dope Message Board that is. I have no problem with admitting it. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/126 "2006-09-08T15:13:08Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] …snipped useless ranting… [/QUOTE] Haven’t you killed yourself yet? Just come on up to PA, grab a shotgun from Wal-Mart, and find a quiet rural road somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/127 "2006-09-08T15:26:49Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] WOW!!! So some of you fail to see what my OP was about? Oh for Chrisssake! [/QUOTE] [Tyler Durden] Oh, I got it. Very clever. How’s that workin’ out for you? [/Tyler Durden] ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/128 "2006-09-08T15:41:38Z")
[QUOTE=Zeriel] Haven’t you killed yourself yet? Just come on up to PA, grab a shotgun from Wal-Mart, and find a quiet rural road somewhere. [/QUOTE] You make it sound so simple and…nice. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/129 "2006-09-08T15:45:36Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] Mangetout posts on average 12.45 times a day! Der Trihs tells me 10 times a day is not that much. They both remind me of the alcoholic who thinks a bottle of gin a day is “normal”. [/QUOTE] Posting 10 times a day is an addiction ? How slow do you type, anyway ? Is having 10 verbal exchanges a day an addiction ? ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/130 "2006-09-08T15:45:38Z")
This thread was more fun before the OP came back. Ah well. ---
**Author:** ![Puzzler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d07c76/32.png) [@Puzzler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Puzzler)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/131 "2006-09-08T15:48:43Z")
[QUOTE=Lemur866] Y’know, whether you did or did not actually pay John Corrado for sex isn’t important. The horrible thing is that someone actually thought about it. [/QUOTE] LOL 😃 A little joke for those “in the know” ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/132 "2006-09-08T15:49:38Z")
**Valteron** , there are fora where you are more than welcome to express your opinion, unsupported by any facts whatsoever. No one here is claiming exclusive rights to 100% objectivity. But there are real facts in the world. I’m typing on a keyboard; that is a fact. It is possible, even probable, that someone else is in possession of facts that you are not. We have two fora which are intended for the most part to be exchanges of factual information; they are “General Questions” and “Great Debates.” If you are called upon to support your opinions by facts in these fora, and cannot, you will lose respect on the board. For most of us, that’s a disincentive, because we are honest enough to believe that, by and large, we are representing our real selves in our posts, that others are doing the same, and that we would prefer to be respected by those others. You may be indifferent to the respect of the other posters. That’s fine; it would appear that they are pretty indifferent to your opinion as well. That’s because, on this board, you actually have to have shown some value to earn more than utter indifference from the other posters. That value will differ from forum to forum and from poster to poster, but there are several near universals. One is that you display a real sense of humor. Another is that you keep the self-pity to a minimum. And the third and most important is that _you recognize the difference between that which you are expressing as an opinion and that which is either factual or at the very least, supported by evidence other than that manufactured in your own mind_. **Der Trihs** demonstrated that he does, by referring to himself as the resident frothing-at-the-mouth atheist. He is, and it’s delightful to discover that he knows it. I think he also knows that by coming across that way, he has lost a lot of respect from other posters, and apparently to him it’s worth it. It may be to you as well. But you don’t then see **Der Trihs** in the Pit then trying to convince all the rest of us that we’re idiots because we care about respect or that we’re addicts because we spend time on the SDMB. So pick your direction and stick to it. Either put up or shut up. You can have respect, or you can choose to rant and lose it. But if you choose the latter, don’t then go bitching at the rest of us for being idiots because we didn’t. All that does is to show sour grapes. This is how it is here. Take it or leave it, because you haven’t yet earned enough respect or affection for much of anyone here to yet care. ---
**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/133 "2006-09-08T16:07:34Z")
[QUOTE=Colibri] Are you left handed, or were you just playing hard-to-get? [/QUOTE] **Colibri:** Why are you smiling? **John Corrado:** _I_ am not left-handed. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/134 "2006-09-08T16:09:05Z")
[QUOTE=Inigo Montoya] You make it sound so simple and…nice. [/QUOTE] Hey, it’s Pennsylvania. Politicians off themselves on live television here… ---
**Author:** ![Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Key_Lime_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/135 "2006-09-08T16:11:30Z")
The funniest thing about this thread is that the first serious rejoinder was _to defend Star Trek!_ That made my day. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/136 "2006-09-08T16:15:30Z")
[QUOTE=Key Lime Guy] The funniest thing about this thread is that the first serious rejoinder was _to defend Star Trek!_ That made my day. [/QUOTE] Well, no one denied that there were a lot of Geeks and Nerds here. I would guess we make up over 50% of the dope. {Some would say over 90%} Jim ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/137 "2006-09-08T16:43:07Z")
That boy ain’t right in the head. This is such an odd thread. Such an odd OP. Why would anyone flaunt his pain and past addictions as a way of castigating others for (his) perceived addictive behavior? I need **Excal** to clean up that sentence (reason 1032 for my being here), but seriously…unless OP is acting out (in which case I shall effect my egress quickly) or he is well, what exactly? He seems to be saying, “hey, I’m a loser, but not as big a loser as all you guys” and using the very means that he denigrates in which to do so. Fascinating. For about 2 minutes. What is it you want, OP? Concurrence with your views? Expressions of shame and amazement at your perspicacity? Rueful admissions of a lack of social outlet on the part of many here? I revert to my first comment. You ain’t right in the head. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/138 "2006-09-08T16:58:31Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] One little thing, though. Could someone summarize what the OP was on about? It was too long and boring and, for that matter, poorly written. I couldn’t work my way past the first sentence. Ditto posts #102, 103, 106. [/QUOTE] [“Woooo!!! I AM MASTURBATING LIKE A MOTHER FUCK!!!”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=241922&) Only, not quite as eloquently expressed. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/139 "2006-09-08T17:07:25Z")
[QUOTE=Valteron] I forgot to mention there was a little “trap” embedded in my message. [/QUOTE] **Valteron** , posting little “traps” designed to piss people off is called “trolling”, and is against the rules here. This is a warning not to do this again. [QUOTE=Zeriel] Haven’t you killed yourself yet? Just come on up to PA, grab a shotgun from Wal-Mart, and find a quiet rural road somewhere. [/QUOTE] **Zeriel** , this is also against the forum rules, which forbid wishing death on other posters. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832/140 "2006-09-08T17:10:57Z")
[Quote=Valteron] Others could come up with nothing more clever than attacking my use of multiple ??? and !!! in my OP. Real smart? [/Quote] Oh, you think I was just messing with you. Actually, I’m serious. The rules of English grammar specify only one question mark or exclamation point per sentence. You apparently feel that’s not enough to allow you to express yourself adequately. I was just wondering why. Yes, I know lots of people do the multiple-punctuation thing in E-mail and on message boards. I’ve asked this question before but no one has ever answered me, so I thought I’ try again. Sorry, I’d have some other comment on your OP, but it simply doesn’t matter to me what you might think about my being member here, or of how often I post. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-real-about-sdmb-you-cybernerds/371832.md?page=8)