# Let's get the Pit nice and warm for RaleighRally **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 18, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468 "2011-07-18T17:47:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/1 "2011-07-18T17:47:28Z")
Because that cranky, intellectually dishonest racist is [headed here soon enough.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=616746) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/2 "2011-07-18T17:50:26Z")
Why bother? They’ll be banned before the end of the month. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/3 "2011-07-18T18:08:29Z")
His stuff reads like a recent recruit from that place at the leading edge of violent weather. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/4 "2011-07-18T18:13:52Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Why bother? They’ll be banned before the end of the month. **Chen19** has been here for a year and a half. And IIRC **Chief Pedant** is another prominent board racist and he’s been here since 2007. You can be an intellectually dishonest racist\* here without being banned. \*Are there any other kind? ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/5 "2011-07-18T19:30:45Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > **Chen19** has been here for a year and a half. And IIRC **Chief Pedant** is another prominent board racist and he’s been here since 2007. You can be an intellectually dishonest racist\* here without being banned. > > \*Are there any other kind? Ignorant? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/6 "2011-07-18T19:41:26Z")
Meh, he’s just another overweight loser who’s almost certainly living in his mother’s basement who’s adopted “white nationalism” to explain why women won’t fuck him. He’s the mirror image of Commissar except Commissar likes to pretend he’s both Russian and a communist. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/7 "2011-07-18T19:45:05Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Meh, he’s just another overweight loser who’s almost certainly living in his mother’s basement who’s adopted “white nationalism” to explain why women won’t fuck him. > > He’s the mirror image of Commissar except Commissar likes to pretend he’s both Russian and a communist. And that he has a dick, as opposed to being one. ---
**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/8 "2011-07-18T19:49:32Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Meh, he’s just another overweight loser who’s almost certainly living in his mother’s basement who’s adopted “white nationalism” to explain why women won’t fuck him. > > He’s the mirror image of Commissar except Commissar likes to pretend he’s both Russian and a communist. Yup. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/9 "2011-07-18T23:42:49Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Meh, he’s just another overweight loser who’s almost certainly living in his mother’s basement who’s adopted “white nationalism” to explain why women won’t fuck him. > > He’s the mirror image of Commissar except Commissar likes to pretend he’s both Russian and a communist. So, **Raleigh’s** not really Swedish? Wouldn’t surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/10 "2011-07-19T03:01:27Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Meh, he’s just another overweight loser who’s almost certainly living in his mother’s basement who’s adopted “white nationalism” to explain why women won’t fuck him. And by “women” he’s probably thinking of a “hot Asian chick”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/11 "2011-07-19T04:20:02Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Meh, he’s just another overweight loser who’s almost certainly living in his mother’s basement who’s adopted “white nationalism” to explain why women won’t fuck him. Ever notice how it’s the people who are complete failures as individuals who feel the need to promote the superiority of their race? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/12 "2011-07-19T04:36:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Ever notice how it’s the people who are complete failures as individuals who feel the need to promote the superiority of their race? I can think of **one** example . . . ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/13 "2011-07-19T04:43:19Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Ever notice how it’s the people who are complete failures as individuals who feel the need to promote the superiority of their race? A principle most memorably expressed in this [classic of the Western Canon](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lceorvOGNK1qzbvjpo1_500.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/14 "2011-07-19T04:48:52Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] Ever notice how it’s the people who are complete failures as individuals who feel the need to promote the superiority of their race? [/QUOTE] This is not really true. Harold von Braunhut, the inventor of Sea Monkeys and many other novelties, was a neo-Nazi. George Lincoln Rockwell had been a successful graphic designer and advertising designer before founding the American Nazi Party. David Duke did pretty well for himself and certainly doesn’t seem to have any lack of self-confidence. Hitler himself was a failed painter but he had plenty of people working for him who had been very successful in their fields and he enjoyed the support of many great scientists, industrialists and other movers and shakers. Charles Lindbergh was extremely racist, and he was an absolute rockstar of his day - a public hero and renowned pilot. Maybe it makes you feel better to _think_ that all white supremacists are losers, but history seems to have proven that successful people can fall for this ideology as well as anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/15 "2011-07-19T04:52:23Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I can think of **one** example . . . Michele Bachmann? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/16 "2011-07-19T05:05:25Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > This is not really true. Harold von Braunhut, the inventor of Sea Monkeys and many other novelties, was a neo-Nazi. I really can’t pin down why, but for some strange reason I find this absolutely hilarious :D. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/17 "2011-07-19T05:19:20Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > This is not really true. Harold von Braunhut, the inventor of Sea Monkeys and many other novelties, was a neo-Nazi. > [@Tamerlane](#): > > I really can’t pin down why, but for some strange reason I find this absolutely hilarious :D. How in the hell do you “invent” Sea Monkeys? They’ve been around for millions of years - no? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/18 "2011-07-19T05:45:29Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > This is not really true. Harold von Braunhut, the inventor of Sea Monkeys and many other novelties, was a neo-Nazi. George Lincoln Rockwell had been a successful graphic designer and advertising designer before founding the American Nazi Party. David Duke did pretty well for himself and certainly doesn’t seem to have any lack of self-confidence. Hitler himself was a failed painter but he had plenty of people working for him who had been very successful in their fields and he enjoyed the support of many great scientists, industrialists and other movers and shakers. Charles Lindbergh was extremely racist, and he was an absolute rockstar of his day - a public hero and renowned pilot. > > Maybe it makes you feel better to _think_ that all white supremacists are losers, but history seems to have proven that successful people can fall for this ideology as well as anyone else. Let me point out that with the exception of Duke (who as far as I can see has never done anything notable in his life unrelated to being a famous racist) all of your examples of “successful” white supremacists were born a long time ago. If you want to go back a hundred years, I can find you dozens of examples of successful people who were white supremacists. It was a common ideology back in the day. But it’s long since been debunked by anyone capable of functioning in normal society and I stand by original assertion - the only people who are white supremacists are people who are complete failures as individuals. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/19 "2011-07-19T05:45:32Z")
Yes, monkeys have been around a long time. But teaching them to live underwater took a hell of a lot of work. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468/20 "2011-07-19T05:48:40Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Yes, monkeys have been around a long time. But teaching them to live underwater took a hell of a lot of work. Well played sir, well played. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-the-pit-nice-and-warm-for-raleighrally/589468.md?page=2)