# Let's get this money out of politics

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 18, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564 "2009-04-18T21:01:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![lurking\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lurking\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurking_guest)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/1 "2009-04-18T21:01:52Z")

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The Bastards!

All of them!

The Repuclicans… The Democrats…

I’ve been really involved in politics since the sixties.

And…have since come to understand that the “Rulers” of our Country are Oligarchs.

No…No…not just “our country” but the “Rulers” and “Law Makers” of EVERY country.

Consider what your taxes are for.

Primarily…to keep workers producing.

In every country.

Now that we are **GLOBAL** \*\*\*\*every thirty-cent-an-hour worker (wherever they may live) - are competitors with “First World” workers…and the “First World” workers can never win.

This has **NOTHING** \*\*\*\* to do with America.

Those with billions of dollars, with Global Corporations… have nothing to do with **any** country.

They are lovers of wealth… of power…of a certain “class” of folks who consider the rest of us (the folks who actually work in the mills, who actually manufacture the dope, who actually make the shoes and the clothes and the food and the machines that move commerce, that provide electricity and garbage pick-up, and making trades at the Stock Market etc.) as “fools” who keep ‘serving’ them.

I helped form the first “Young Repuclican” group on my campus.

Only because in the sixties I hated the refrain of “If it feels good…do it…” and all of the Anarchy that engendered.

Is Barak Obama going after the companies that have punished folks who tried to Unionize their Companies? Sort of…

Is Barak Obama doing anything **definite** \*\*\*\*about the folks who live at Minimun Wage or below?

By the time these guys get to running a country…they know one another…they understand one another…they know, **above all else** that they must keep the ‘producers’ of goods and services… **HAPPY**.

Am I republican? No. Am I a democrat? No. Am I a supporter of the world-wide oligarchy? No.

It’s time for those who make buisnesses **work** to ask this question:

If you have all the money…if you have all of the Captalization…if you have all of the “Vision”… if you have the “Plant”…if you have the machines…

How can you make it work… if you don’t have the folks to do the work for you?

You can have all of the “Upper”, “Middle” and “Low” **Management** \*\*\*\* folks you can buy/afford setting in on **Management Plans** \*\*\*\* to get your ideas fulfilled.

**NONE** \*\* of it will ‘happen’ without workers carrying out the work/tasks for you.

When **EVER** will you concede that all the **Money** , all the **“Plant”** , all the “Good Ideas” will **NEVER** \*\*\*\* reach fruition without the workers who make it happen?

The \*\*WorldWide Oligarchy\*\*\*\*Is NOT your friend.

If we are in competition with folks who love working for 75-cents an hour…we have to consider getting together…and hoping we’ll understand one another.

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**Author:** ![Collaborator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Collaborator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Collaborator)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/2 "2009-04-18T22:05:07Z")

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Somewhere out there, a village is desperately looking for their idiot.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/3 "2009-04-18T22:13:28Z")

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I have no idea what this means. I honestly can’t figure it out. Is this a neo-Marxist kind of a thing?

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**Author:** ![lurking\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lurking\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurking_guest)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/4 "2009-04-18T22:20:29Z")

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> [@Collaborator](#):
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> Somewhere out there, a village is desperately looking for their idiot.

Really?

Let’s hear YOUR musings.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/5 "2009-04-18T23:33:50Z")

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If you’ve been involved in politics since the 60’s, I think it is pretty safe to say that you are part of the problem. In which case, it would be better for you to step aside and let some new people think about the situations of today.

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**Author:** ![lurking\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lurking\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurking_guest)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/6 "2009-04-19T00:15:41Z")

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Really?

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**Author:** ![lurking\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lurking\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurking_guest)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/7 "2009-04-19T01:44:42Z")

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I did not send the last -

“Really?”  
Who did?

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**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/8 "2009-04-19T01:52:13Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Consider what your taxes are for.
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> Primarily…to keep workers producing.
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> In every country.

False premise. Taxes are primarily for defense and operating the government.

If you disagree, on what do you base your assertion that the primary purpose of taxes is to support a manufacturing economy?

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/9 "2009-04-19T04:48:23Z")

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For some reason I find posts 6 & 7 absolutely hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/10 "2009-04-19T06:13:29Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> For some reason I find posts 6 & 7 absolutely hilarious.

Really?

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/11 "2009-04-19T06:18:08Z")

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Learn how to spell our president’s fucking name.

It’s Barack. Barack. BARACK. **BARACK.** BARACK.

I’m sick and tired of seeing “Barak Obama.” I’ve even seen it in the local newspaper, for God’s sake. His name ends with a c and a k, just like the word “cock.”

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/12 "2009-04-19T18:20:41Z")

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> [@appleciders](#):
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> I have no idea what this means. I honestly can’t figure it out. Is this a neo-Marxist kind of a thing?

Yes…if Marx was huffing paint 24/7.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/13 "2009-04-19T21:30:38Z")

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As a future ogliarch (I am currently an apprentice of Zion but will one day be a Learned Elder of Zion and in charge of protocols and whatnot) I see a lot of sense in the OP.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/14 "2009-04-20T18:16:36Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> I did not send the last -
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> “Really?”  
> Who did?

It’s THEM. RUN!

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/15 "2009-04-20T18:25:11Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Who did?

That one.

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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/16 "2009-04-20T18:30:49Z")

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All one! All one!

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**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/17 "2009-04-20T19:01:03Z")

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One of us! One of us!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/18 "2009-04-20T19:01:05Z")

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Must have been work of that devious _Hal Briston_.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/19 "2009-04-20T19:04:50Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Must have been work of that devious _Hal Briston_.

Bah.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-get-this-money-out-of-politics/493564/20 "2009-04-20T19:06:47Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> It’s THEM. RUN!

😃

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