# Lets go Mets! Let's go STRAIGHT TO HELL!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808 "2007-09-28T13:58:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/41 "2007-09-28T21:17:30Z")

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I don’t follow baseball (or any other sport, for that matter) any more, so I was only vaguely aware of the current status of the MLB series race. However, as someone who DID follow baseball back in 1969 and watched as the Cubs blew what was assumed to be a lock on the NL championship to the Mets, I had to read a thread with this title. Despite the fact that I had no familiarity with anything the OP was talking about I must applaud the eloquence of his rant.

The delight that I felt, after nearly forty years, in finding out that the Mets have performed such a magnificent feat…well, words fail me.

Although the image of Pavarotti fellating a live badger on stage is one that will have me chuckling all weekend.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/42 "2007-09-28T21:23:41Z")

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
Omar Minaya was responsible for assembling an Opening Day Roster that included the entire duty roster of the AARP  
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Great rant, but as a San Franciscans, I do NOT want to hear anyone bitching about how old their team is.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/43 "2007-09-28T21:28:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF]  
Great rant, but as a San Franciscans, I do NOT want to hear anyone bitching about how old their team is.  
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Actually, the Mets have a team age average about 1.4 years older than the Giants. The Mets and the Red Sox are tied for the oldest teams in the league, with an average age of 30.8 years.

But, in a similar vein, as a Baltimore Orioles fan, i don’t want to hear anyone else bitching about bullpen performance. 🙂

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**Author:** ![A.I.Wintermute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@A.I.Wintermute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.I.Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/44 "2007-09-29T03:23:03Z")

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I don’t give a damn about baseball and this was great fun to read. Hat’s off to you, **storyteller0910**.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/45 "2007-09-29T03:26:54Z")

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AL East Champion Boston Red Sox!

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/46 "2007-09-29T04:29:16Z")

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Way, way earlier in the season, when the Mets had just gone on their initial tear to pull far ahead of the rest of the division, and the Yankees were totally in the shitter, a guy I work with mentioned that it looked like it was the Mets’ year and the Yanks could pack it in already. As a long-time Mets fan, that gave me an immediate reaction of: “Oh, shit, how are the Metsies going to fuck it up by season’s end.”

I guess we’re finding out.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/47 "2007-09-29T04:49:41Z")

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Mets now 1 game _back_, with 2 games to go!

Their form has just been diabolical over the past few weeks.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/48 "2007-09-29T07:54:33Z")

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As an Orioles fan who doesn’t really remember '69… but feels it deeply, all I can say is…

ROFLMFAO!!!

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/49 "2007-09-29T14:42:55Z")

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Hey Mets fans, while you were basking in your 1986 glory, 8 short years before that the Red Sox had a monumental collapse.

Dare I say it, but your 2007 is worse than our 1978. How a team could LOSE 8 games in the standings while playing 12 is truly remarkable.

L O fucking L.

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**Author:** ![Incensed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Incensed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incensed)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/50 "2007-09-29T15:59:32Z")

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Epic, epic rant. That Pavarotti bit is one of the funniest analogies I’ve ever read/heard. I genuflect in your general direction, **Storyteller.**

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/51 "2007-09-30T19:33:30Z")

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Gotta salute the Mets for keeping the suspense alive today. It lasted all the way through the national anthem (Marlins score 7 runs in the top of the first).

Say bye-bye.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/52 "2007-09-30T19:58:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Jackmannii]  
Gotta salute the Mets for keeping the suspense alive today. It lasted all the way through the national anthem (Marlins score 7 runs in the top of the first).

Say bye-bye.  
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Yeah, Philly is up 5-1 in the 6th. It’s looking like that’s it for the Mets.

If those scores hold up, the Phillies win the East and the only question will be the Wild Card. The Padres can clinch it with a win, but if they lose and the Rockies win, San Diego and Colorado will have to play each other for the final playoff spot.

Milwaukee just tied SD, and the Rockies and Arizona are 0-0 in the 3rd.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/53 "2007-09-30T20:18:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Jackmannii]  
Gotta salute the Mets for keeping the suspense alive today. It lasted all the way through the national anthem (Marlins score 7 runs in the top of the first).

Say bye-bye.  
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Man, this has been like watching the Titanic go down. :eek:

I’m a Yankees fan, but most of my brothers are Mets fans. I’m going to have to be very careful what I say.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/54 "2007-09-30T20:48:13Z")

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Wait 'till next year, Mets fans!

Milwaukee leads San Diego 9-4 now. Colorado still tied 0-0 with Arizona. The Rockies have won 12 of their last 13 and are pitching rookies.

Rockies 1-0!

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/55 "2007-09-30T21:48:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]  
Wait 'till next year, Mets fans!

Milwaukee leads San Diego 9-4 now. Colorado still tied 0-0 with Arizona. The Rockies have won 12 of their last 13 and are pitching rookies.

Rockies 1-0!  
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Looks like there will be a game tomorrow in Coors Field! “Amazing Rockies”, perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/56 "2007-09-30T22:37:58Z")

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13 of 14 to wind up the season. What’s one more?

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**Author:** ![robardin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@robardin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robardin)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/57 "2007-09-30T22:48:20Z")

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The Phillies went 13-4 to end the season, kudos to them. Even with the Mets stinking it up, they still had to play an astounding 76.5% winning percentage over the last half of September to pull it off – even an 11-6 finish, which is still an awesome run at any point in the season, would have let the Mets win the division (and probably lose in the first round).

The Mets really didn’t deserve to win, it was more a matter of nobody really deserving to win the division until the Phillies put it all together at the end. The Mets never had a winning streak longer than 4 games until a 5-game winning streak right before bottoming out. They had a mediocre record at home even before losing 9 of their last 10 home games. They had many bases loaded situations but hit not one single grand slam _all year_.

They were a fundamentally so-so team that pulled off looking like the best of a bad bunch for a long time, that’s all. Unfortunately the real way to become a truly good team requires young pitching talent to come up – a la the Yankees’ Chien-Ming Wang or Joba Chamberlain – and so far, Pelfrey and Humber do not look like they will fit that bill.

It’s interesting that ALL the NL playoff teams from last year may miss out this year. If the Rockies beat the Padres it’ll be: Cubs, Rockies, Phillies and D-Backs. While in the AL it’s the same old cast, even if last year’s AL titlists are out.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/58 "2007-09-30T23:02:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Frank]  
Looks like there will be a game tomorrow in Coors Field! “Amazing Rockies”, perhaps?  
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Yes, final is 4-3 Rockies over D’backs.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/59 "2007-09-30T23:13:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Colibri]  
Yes, final is 4-3 Rockies over D’backs.  
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I just got back from the grocery store and the line for tickets is out the door, and the Broncos were still playing! Great to see that in Colorado.

Not much work will be getting done tomorrow afternoon.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-go-mets-lets-go-straight-to-hell/420808/60 "2007-09-30T23:33:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]  
I just got back from the grocery store and the line for tickets is out the door, and the Broncos were still playing! Great to see that in Colorado.

Not much work will be getting done tomorrow afternoon.  
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I used to live in Colorado in the 1970s, and in fact went to a few minor league games in Denver. I’ll be rooting for them.

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