# Let's Have a Frank Discussion on Race **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 27, 2010, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161 "2010-07-27T09:18:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/301 "2010-08-03T14:46:37Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > For those who are interested: [A recent discussion about race](http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/29896), by two AA intellectuals. > > (Recorded: July 30/Posted: August 2) Dam How do you know they’re alcoholics? Kinda judgemental ain’t ya? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/302 "2010-08-03T14:48:01Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > > [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > > > If you are that, own it. Have the courage of your convictions. > > Racists are very sensitive and delicate people. That’s why their robes are always 1000 thread count. They chafe. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/303 "2010-08-03T14:58:44Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > > [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > > > If you are that, own it. Have the courage of your convictions. > > Racists are very sensitive and delicate people. Especially the anti-white ones. ---
**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/304 "2010-08-03T15:36:12Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > > [@mutantmoose](#): > > > > Sounds like you don’t have a problem. What makes you think that you should pay black people a dime more than you would pay other people? No one is asking you to. > > . > > I’m sorry but did you read the part you quoted? He said he pays all people and genders the same and then gives raises based on capability. That’s the correct way to do things. He doesn’t say he pays people more because they’re black so I’m not sure where you got that. I got it from immediately before the bit I quoted, here: > [@](#): > > I pay the same as I would to any white man (or white woman) — and you do not get a dime more because of your color or racial history—that is the law and I abide by it. I have give pay raises and promotions based on capability and how much money you make for me, as cash is the name of the game and I’m a good player. And I do not care where your mama came from or for what reason. I probably should have quoted it but the main bit I wanted to reply to was the bit I quoted and Don knew what I was talking about so that’s the main thing ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/305 "2010-08-03T16:13:52Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > I got it from immediately before the bit I quoted, here: > > > [@](#): > > > > I pay the same as I would to any white man (or white woman) — and you do not get a dime more because of your color or racial history—that is the law and I abide by it. I have give pay raises and promotions based on capability and how much money you make for me, as cash is the name of the game and I’m a good player. And I do not care where your mama came from or for what reason. > > I probably should have quoted it but the main bit I wanted to reply to was the bit I quoted and Don knew what I was talking about so that’s the main thing It’s no big deal but you still got it wrong. He wasn’t claiming anything about paying black people more. He was saying he pays everyone the same regardless of race or gender. ---
**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/306 "2010-08-03T21:16:32Z")
I realise it’s no big deal but I don’t think I got it wrong. He was saying that he pays everyone the same, I agree (and I acknowledged that in my reply when I said “As long as you obey the law, no one cares what you think”). But he was making a secondary point when he said: “you do not get a dime more because of your color or racial history” It’s this secondary point that you are missing. We all agree about the main thrust of the paragraph - that he pays the same. But the subject of the above sentence must have been black people rather than white people. Otherwise why bring up the subject of color and racial history? Since he’s talking about black people then he must have been saying: “Just because you’re black doesn’t mean you’re going to get any more money out of me” To which I replied - no one is asking you to pay any more to black people than to white people. Maybe we need Don to clear up who he was talking about. Don? Don? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/307 "2010-08-04T01:21:40Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > I realise it’s no big deal but I don’t think I got it wrong. He was saying that he pays everyone the same, I agree (and I acknowledged that in my reply when I said “As long as you obey the law, no one cares what you think”). But he was making a secondary point when he said: > > “you do not get a dime more because of your color or racial history” > > It’s this secondary point that you are missing. We all agree about the main thrust of the paragraph - that he pays the same. But the subject of the above sentence must have been black people rather than white people. Otherwise why bring up the subject of color and racial history? > > Since he’s talking about black people then he must have been saying: > > “Just because you’re black doesn’t mean you’re going to get any more money out of me” > > To which I replied - no one is asking you to pay any more to black people than to white people. > > Maybe we need Don to clear up who he was talking about. > > Don? Don? Oh,Oh it’s on now 🙂 Maybe, but I didn’t miss it. I just think it makes more sense that he’s referring to the theory and statistic that minorities earn less. He’s saying he doesn’t do that, he pays everyone the same, and gives everyone raises based on performance not race or gender. You get a a dime more for being white, or a man, is what makes sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/308 "2010-08-04T01:22:49Z")
Is anyone else expecting **Frank** to show up any time now and voice his opinion? ---
**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/309 "2010-08-04T02:24:29Z")
ok I’ve re-read the post in question in order to get the context. Your interpretation robs the sentence of its dramatic intensity. I prefer my interpretation even if I’m wrong but I’m not sure I am. Many of the main points of the post are addressed directly to black people eg - > [@](#): > > **you** blacks are not welcome in my personal life > [@](#): > > but **you** blacks are here and I have to live with it the best I can. > [@](#): > > Accordingly behave **yourself** and try to make something good out of **your** life (like the rest of us) and take responsibility and stop blaming me for all **your** stupid problems > [@](#): > > Now when it comes to LAW **you** blacks, and Mexicans, have civil rights the same as I, and the same USA constitution in all of its good words. **YOU** cannot discriminate in the access to the social goods (jobs, schools, and housing to name a few) by reason of race, national origin, religion, gender, or disability. In all other things we can discriminate all we desire—and that is the LAW, and that is also called freedoms—so **YOU** blacks live with it. > [@](#): > > I have hired many blacks, Cubans, and legal Mexicans over my long business life. For the most part they seem to work out OK, I pay the same as I would to any white man (or white woman) — and **you** do not get a dime more because of **your** color or racial history—that is the law and I abide by it. It seems reasonable to assume that when he used the word “you” in that last one he was continuing the usage he had used previously in the post ie he was talking directly to black people. Here’s the whole post (or at least the important bit) for context: > [@Don123](#): > > Yeah I have heard that many times before and it is always a black that says it i.e. let’s have a honest conversation on race. > OK, I do not like blacks. The conversation is over, and yes I’m a racist, and I’m filthy rich to boot. How do you love me now? > > I’m white, blue eyed, and a blond male and a member of the best race that ever walked on the face of this earth— you want to fight about it, or just agree? > > We are not created equal, no two people are, were are not going to be social friends, you are not welcome to my personal house, you blacks are not welcome in my personal life, I want nothing to do with blacks or other races. > Blacks do NOT want a honest conversation about race because they get their feelings hurt. Oh well too bad, grow up. > > My white family has been in the USA since 1732, I never had a slave, my family never took slaves, we fought against slavery and by our family records we greatly protested in every generation that blacks should have never been brought to the USA—it was a horrible crime against nature that never should have happened, in this whites were simply and utterly stupid—but you blacks are here and I have to live with it the best I can. Accordingly behave yourself and try to make something good out of your life (like the rest of us) and take responsibility and stop blaming me for all your stupid problems. I do not blame blacks for my problems I just have to find away to work around you and you can do the same to me—that is legal to do. > > Now when it comes to LAW you blacks, and Mexicans, have civil rights the same as I, and the same USA constitution in all of its good words. YOU cannot discriminate in the access to the social goods (jobs, schools, and housing to name a few) by reason of race, national origin, religion, gender, or disability. In all other things we can discriminate all we desire—and that is the LAW, and that is also called freedoms—so YOU blacks live with it. > > I have hired many blacks, Cubans, and legal Mexicans over my long business life. For the most part they seem to work out OK, I pay the same as I would to any white man (or white woman) — and you do not get a dime more because of your color or racial history—that is the law and I abide by it. I have give pay raises and promotions based on capability and how much money you make for me, as cash is the name of the game and I’m a good player. And I do not care where your mama came from or for what reason. > In my public life I abide by the law in full, to the letter, and in public I try to be courteous and friendly and not rude, but my private life is different— I do not like other races. I rather have my own white country to live in or at least my own white neighborhood. So I bought up all the land around me just make sure there is great distance between us. There will never be acceptance but there can be tolerance, and that is as good as it gets; and stay LAW abiding. > > NOW you want me to go into great detail, and make argument, on why I do not like blacks? So you want to be offended? I will just say you are ugly to look at and be done with this talk. I’m not running for public office. > Thank you for the time and space, and the lovely “honest” conversation. > And by the way you are a racist also or you would have married the woman (or man as the case may be) of the other color, so do not be shaking your finger at me. Every one is a racist so get over yourself. > Don ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/310 "2010-08-04T02:51:35Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > It seems reasonable to assume that when he used the word “you” in that last one he was continuing the usage he had used previously in the post ie he was talking directly to black people. Know what? Given that context I believe you are right. My mistake for expecting a reasonable post from that guy. Procede with your victory dance. You earned it. ---
**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/311 "2010-08-04T03:30:28Z")
Well, I’m not convinced that you’re not right. He does seem to use the word “you” interchangeably. For instance in that last couple of sentences he appears to be addressing white people but I’m a bit confused as to what he means: > [@](#): > > And by the way you are a racist also or you would have married the woman (or man as the case may be) of the other color, so do not be shaking your finger at me. Every one is a racist so get over yourself. He seems to be saying that white people went out with a black person at some point and they should have married them but didn’t (or vice versa). I dunno. I’m white but I’ve never gone out with a black person in any serious way so I don’t seem to fit his scenario. (I am currently single though and black women are more than welcome to apply for the vacancy of my girlfriend - and then we can split up and make Don’s prophecy come true). ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Captain\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/312 "2010-08-04T04:00:32Z")
There can never be a frank discussion on race. If there is one, there would be open warfare. I cannot on this board expound my true beliefs about race, religion and sexuality. If I did, I would be either banned from this board or I would have a bunch of trolls on me calling me racist, anti-semitic or homophobic. I just don’t bother anymore because no one wants to listen to the truth that is plainly presented. Most people want to cover their ears and sing loudly or just say fk it, not my problem. A side note, this message board has very little tolerance for any kind of free speech. The Mods here act like a bunch of Commissars scanning all posts for something that they don’t like. Pretty bogus since the idea of this forum is to seek the truth. The problem is easy to solve but difficult to repair. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/313 "2010-08-04T05:07:32Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > There can never be a frank discussion on race. If there is one, there would be open warfare. > > I cannot on this board expound my true beliefs about race, religion and sexuality. If I did, I would be either banned from this board or I would have a bunch of trolls on me calling me racist, anti-semitic or homophobic. I just don’t bother anymore because no one wants to listen to the truth that is plainly presented. Most people want to cover their ears and sing loudly or just say fk it, not my problem. > > A side note, this message board has very little tolerance for any kind of free speech. The Mods here act like a bunch of Commissars scanning all posts for something that they don’t like. Pretty bogus since the idea of this forum is to seek the truth. > > The problem is easy to solve but difficult to repair. You can expect to say whatever you believe, but on this board you cannot expect to go unchallenged if you believe controversial things. If you can’t defend your position then perhaps your position has no merit ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/314 "2010-08-04T05:18:41Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > You can expect to say whatever you believe, but on this board you cannot expect to go unchallenged if you believe controversial things. If you can’t defend your position then perhaps your position has no merit He’s sure got my attention. I hope he has the courage to face the heat and expound on his views about race, sexuality and religion. Sounds interesting. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/315 "2010-08-04T15:55:30Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > There can never be a frank discussion on race. If there is one, there would be open warfare. > > I cannot on this board expound my true beliefs about race, religion and sexuality. If I did, I would be either banned from this board or I would have a bunch of trolls on me calling me racist, anti-semitic or homophobic. I just don’t bother anymore because no one wants to listen to the truth that is plainly presented. Most people want to cover their ears and sing loudly or just say fk it, not my problem. No one needs to wait for you to expound before considering you a racist, anti-semitic, homophobe. > [@](#): > > A side note, this message board has very little tolerance for any kind of free speech. The Mods here act like a bunch of Commissars scanning all posts for something that they don’t like. Pretty bogus since the idea of this forum is to seek the truth. > > The problem is easy to solve but difficult to repair. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/316 "2010-08-05T17:01:30Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > NOW you want me to go into great detail, and make argument, on why I do not like blacks? So you want to be offended? I will just say you are ugly to look at and be done with this talk. I’m not running for public office. Insofar as you’re addressing other posters, this kind of post belongs in the BBQ Pit, not Great Debates. You can’t call other people ugly and insult them in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/317 "2010-08-05T20:17:55Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > One could not start an honest discussion on race on this message board. They would be immediately banned or set up by 100 different posters frothing at the mouth about being a “white supremacist”, " a hate monger", “anti-semite”, “Nazi” and worse. > > North Korea has more open free speech laws than The Straight Dope" message board. “Free speech” has to do with the government. The Straight Dope is a privately owned message board and can put any restrictions on speech they choose. :rolleyes: And even the concept of “free speech” doesn’t guarantee you the right NOT to be challenged. YOUR right to free speech doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to express MY view, or tell you that I think what you said is full of shit. (Having people froth at the mouth at you isn’t “restricting your rights”. This is a message board – not a blog.) ---
**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/318 "2010-08-05T20:27:49Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > > [@Don123](#): > > > > NOW you want me to go into great detail, and make argument, on why I do not like blacks? So you want to be offended? I will just say you are ugly to look at and be done with this talk. I’m not running for public office. > > Insofar as you’re addressing other posters, this kind of post belongs in the BBQ Pit, not Great Debates. You can’t call other people ugly and insult them in this forum. Then you cannot have an honest debate on race, what you gender is political correctness as not to offend any one. You cannot use negative descriptive words for the following: Physical features color Capability Cultures Gender Family history Nationality Religious training Populations by crime Conditions of the cities a race dominates Personal experience with other races History Sexual attraction Child raising Dominate Social behaviors Percentages of a race Credit history Profiling And avoid using words as: they, them, all. Accordingly you have to pretend to be sensitive, caring, understanding, constantly side stepping, loving and smile allot. And you cannot wait to get home to your superior white family and friends. Ha ha ha— where you can be yourself, and say what you really think. In my personal life, I have set up private charities for white children only, 100% legal. I only buy from whites, 100% legal. I only purchase homes for rentals in white neighborhoods, and sell them to any one when the area starts to get mixed and I move on. All 100% legal I use my freedom of association to be whites only. I’m a member of white only private clubs. I trained my children the same by example, so they would not be poluted in mind or body. As a private citizen, leading a private life I’m a racist to the bone. I love my white race and the way I was born and I’m going to make it better to all the blond hair and all the blues eyes I can find including myself. My history goes back before recorded time, and we are still here unpolluted, and what I do in my private life, all backs and other races can do the same. It is called freedoms. You want to know my moral codes here look it up, State statutes, ORS 2009, pay attention to chapters 163 and 164, in addition to contract law and tort law. These are behaviors that are “absolutely prohibited” under the pain of sever punishment both civil and criminal. What is NOT included I am a free person to decide my destiny for better or worse. And by my reference, I’m righteous and I have been all my life without exception. And being rich in my youth by my own hard works, and filthy rich in my adult life with even harder works and wisdom, I do not have to kiss-ass, side step, or pander to any one, much less those of other races. Where did I learn this racist attitude of mine, you may ask, it was not from my parents, I leaned it from the blacks I grew up with; only I’m smarter, more ambitious, and just plain superior by genetics. But it is not all bad as you may think, though I was about beaten to death twice by Cubans. As a Child, my customers were mostly of the Local black Baptist Church before I expanded my sales territory. They gave me protection from the Cuban gangs and black drugers, and other human filth that ran the streets. The Preacher man said to the congregation in my presents many times, “Leave that “white boy” alone, he is a good one of “them”. Look out for him as he delivers the vegetables and fruits to “us”; he does a good service to “our people”. There was always a division between blacks and I as to race. I grew up with it, so no big deal to me. Anther good point perhaps, the Local black Baptist Chruch was the only organization that tried to up hold some sort of standards in the black community, but it was not nearly high enough for me, and I out grew it really fast. I learned my racial lessons well at a young age from the blacks where at the time of life it would do me the most good. We are not the same, blacks and I (and other races), and we never will be. The most you will get out of this “white boy” is tolerance, and this is as good as this conversation gets. But I really rather have my own white country. Don ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/319 "2010-08-05T21:00:25Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > > [@Don123](#): > > > > NOW you want me to go into great detail, and make argument, on why I do not like blacks? So you want to be offended? I will just say you are ugly to look at and be done with this talk. I’m not running for public office. > > Insofar as you’re addressing other posters, this kind of post belongs in the BBQ Pit, not Great Debates. You can’t call other people ugly and insult them in this forum. Please, in no way do I wish to lend any support to **don123**. But this charge of insulting posters is pure bullshit. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that he hasn’t got a clue how anyone here looks so it is simply impossible to credit his statement as a bona fide insult. If an honest discussion about race means the racists are not to be included then there is really no point to it at all is there? ---
**Author:** ![capeo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@capeo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capeo)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161/320 "2010-08-05T21:27:26Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > > [@Marley23](#): > > > > Insofar as you’re addressing other posters, this kind of post belongs in the BBQ Pit, not Great Debates. You can’t call other people ugly and insult them in this forum. > > Then you cannot have an honest debate on race, what you gender is political correctness as not to offend any one. > > You cannot use negative descriptive words for the following: > Physical features > color > Capability > Cultures > Gender > Family history > Nationality > Religious training > Populations by crime > Conditions of the cities a race dominates > Personal experience with other races > History > Sexual attraction > Child raising > Dominate Social behaviors > Percentages of a race > Credit history > Profiling > > And avoid using words as: they, them, all. > > Accordingly you have to pretend to be sensitive, caring, understanding, constantly side stepping, loving and smile allot. And you cannot wait to get home to your superior white family and friends. Ha ha ha— where you can be yourself, and say what you really think. > > In my personal life, I have set up private charities for white children only, 100% legal. > I only buy from whites, 100% legal. I only purchase homes for rentals in white neighborhoods, and sell them to any one when the area starts to get mixed and I move on. All 100% legal > > I use my freedom of association to be whites only. I’m a member of white only private clubs. I trained my children the same by example, so they would not be poluted in mind or body. > > As a private citizen, leading a private life I’m a racist to the bone. I love my white race and the way I was born and I’m going to make it better to all the blond hair and all the blues eyes I can find including myself. My history goes back before recorded time, and we are still here unpolluted, and what I do in my private life, all backs and other races can do the same. It is called freedoms. > > You want to know my moral codes here look it up, State statutes, ORS 2009, pay attention to chapters 163 and 164, in addition to contract law and tort law. These are behaviors that are “absolutely prohibited” under the pain of sever punishment both civil and criminal. What is NOT included I am a free person to decide my destiny for better or worse. And by my reference, I’m righteous and I have been all my life without exception. > > And being rich in my youth by my own hard works, and filthy rich in my adult life with even harder works and wisdom, I do not have to kiss-ass, side step, or pander to any one, much less those of other races. > > Where did I learn this racist attitude of mine, you may ask, it was not from my parents, I leaned it from the blacks I grew up with; only I’m smarter, more ambitious, and just plain superior by genetics. > > But it is not all bad as you may think, though I was about beaten to death twice by Cubans. > > As a Child, my customers were mostly of the Local black Baptist Church before I expanded my sales territory. They gave me protection from the Cuban gangs and black drugers, and other human filth that ran the streets. > > The Preacher man said to the congregation in my presents many times, “Leave that “white boy” alone, he is a good one of “them”. Look out for him as he delivers the vegetables and fruits to “us”; he does a good service to “our people”. > There was always a division between blacks and I as to race. I grew up with it, so no big deal to me. > > Anther good point perhaps, the Local black Baptist Chruch was the only organization that tried to up hold some sort of standards in the black community, but it was not nearly high enough for me, and I out grew it really fast. I learned my racial lessons well at a young age from the blacks where at the time of life it would do me the most good. > > We are not the same, blacks and I (and other races), and we never will be. The most you will get out of this “white boy” is tolerance, and this is as good as this conversation gets. But I really rather have my own white country. > > Don This guy is totally not for real. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-have-a-frank-discussion-on-race/548161.md?page=17)