Let's hear about your unpleasant celebrity encounters?

A few years ago, the high school where I teach was selected by AT&T to take part in some wort of publicity-stunt-disguised-as-social-consciousness event. Two things are important:

  1. The student body is overwhelmingly poor and black
  2. James Earl Jones was supposed to make a personal appearance at the school.

#2 got hyped for weeks in advance. The kids were pumped. When Mr. Voice-of-Vader arrived, his people announced he wouldn’t be meeting with any students or doing an assembly. The most that fat prick managed was to say hello over the PA system. He also allowed the Superintendnat to be photographed next to him. The kids were so disappointed, even I felt bad for them. Every time I hear his voice on TV, this is the first thing that comes to mind for me now.

Warning: third-hand anecdote

My cousin used to run a nice little clothes & home store in New Milford, CT, a celeb-heavy area. Richard Widmark was a regular customer, charge account 'n all. Cuz was in the back doing inventory, friend running the counter, when Widmark happened by. Now friend was a young thing and didn’t watch too many old movies, so she didn’t recognize Widmark. Merely helped him out with a stack of merchandise and took him to the checkout to wrap it.

Young Thing: How will we be paying today, sir?
Widmark: Just put it on my account.
Young Thing: What name will that be, sir?

Widmark didn’t say a word. Just glowered at her with that sidewise fish-eye and lopsided mouth of his. Put the package down, turned on his heel and left the store.

He was back next week like nothing had happened. Not a jerk, just an old cuss, I suppose.

I don’t have my own story, just popping in to say great thread!!!

Many of these celebs it’s almost a no-brainer that they’d be rude. I mean, David Lee Roth, Don Johnson, Sharon Stone–I’d be very shocked if any of these people were amiable.

But I’m so sad that my all time fave celeb/comedian/actor/writer has shown up twice in this thread!! I would understand Steve Martin being somewhat stand-offish, but rude??! I’m very disappointed.

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I used to work in La La Land…

Fairy Barry Manilow…something like this (while working at his home)

Barry: (Picks up his Phone while I’m working on it)

          "This is a private line, who are you!!!! I want your name and number!"

Roboto: “This is the Phoneman, Mr. Manilow, I’m working on your trouble
complaint”

Barry: “Well you’ll have to stop and who gave you permission? This is ridiculous!”
Can’t you people do anything right? Just stop! Get off my Phone!"
Youre gonna have to leave"

Roboto: “Would you like me to re-schedule another due date Mr. Manilow”

Barry: “Oh, I don’t know…Just get off my Phone!”

I was in Barcelona… oh, about '95 or '96. It was the “Setmana del Comic”, a comicon that lasts from Tuesday to Friday, and the star for that year was Howard Chaykin, whose “Black Kiss” series was being sold in Spain at the time. Blackhawk had been a recent and huge sucess, so they were pretty much translating Black Kiss as soon as they got the originals from the US, very little delay. The first days are “pros only” and from Friday afternoon to Sunday it’s open to the general public. I wasn’t really a pro, but I got a pass in exchange for playing general gopher and “hold this here” while the stands were set up.

So, the organization had paid for him to stay ten days in a Costa Brava hotel, near Barcelona, all expenses paid and I mean all. He was supposed to come in Wednesday morning. He didn’t.

Was supposed to come in Wednesday afternoon, didn’t… etc etc.

Let’s just fast forward to Sunday about noon. By now, the pros are VERY irritated; the fans are starting to consider reaming his nether parts with an I-beam but there are no I-beams around. A lot of people have been waiting on line for several hours in 6 or 7 separate occasions for no-show.

I see the head editor for DC Spain walking in with him. Chaykin is whining about the general stupidity of fans, how he absollutely HATES coming to comicons because every goddamn stupid fan asks the same goddamn stupid questions, they are such complete morons! The DC guy, who two days before heard me speaking English with foreign visitors and remarked that my English was very good, throws a sideways look at me. I looked so innocent I think the halo must’a shined.

OK. They finally set things up for signing at 4pm on Sunday. I come in, with the copy of Black Hawk #1 that I had bought for a friend who was missing it. I’ve never been much of a Chaykin fan, and definitely I have no interest in a “story” about T-girls doing lots of mouthwork (Black Kiss), but my friend likes his work. De gustibus…

Chaykin wants to know if I have any questions. I don’t, I just want the book signed to Michel in a particular panel. He signs it, while remarking to the DC guy in English what morons we are (once more). The signature did NOT look at all like the one he normally did. I looked at it, briefly considered making a scene, decided against it, said “thank you” in English and left. The DC guy asked me in Spanish “fanzinera?” (are you in a fanzine), I answered yes and told him the two fanzines where I had columns. He gave this sort of resigned laugh…

and of course, after every single fanzine, plus every single “official” column about the Setmana, mentioned Chaykin’s behaviour, sales on Black Kiss didn’t so much go down as below zero.

I still think the organization should have gotten that jerk to pay for the nice 10 days at the beach. Weather doesn’t get much better than May at the Costa Brava.

I shouldn’t have asked for Billie Jean King’s autograph in the first place because I didn’t really want it. Still, she could’ve been nicer. This was at the US Open during a break in a World Team Tennis match (she runs the league). I was about to leave when I asked her to sign something and she kept asking if I understood everything. I suppose she thought she was talking down to me. In point of fact I was also patronizing her: I wasn’t leaving because I had other stuff to see, I was leaving because I hated the WTT. For those unfamiliar, World Team Tennis is supposed to be more fan-friendly: for example, they play music between points - so if you enjoy hearing sports songs, but only want to hear them for five seconds at a time, this is your game - and do sound effects and things. I find that kind of crap really annoying, so I left after about ten minutes.

I saw Jeff Goldblum in The Exonerated a couple of years ago. Incidentally, can anybody buy this man as a character other than ‘Jeff Goldblum?’ The play is made up of true-life accounts of people wrongly sentenced to death. Northwestern University journalism students were involved in exonerating several of these people, and at the time I was a Northwestern University journalism student. I’m not one of those particular students, they were just before my time. But I mentioned it figuring he might be interested if he was interested in the cause, as appearing in this political Off-Broadway play (for no money, I think) might indicate. He was more interested in talking to a blonde close to my age. Hard to blame him, but still.

This is certainly minor compared to some of the experiences others have had, but…

I met Clive Barker on the escalator at Comic-Con, and he had very bad breath. He’d bumped his scheduled autograph / “ask the horror author” panel for a last-minute interview with the local news. Those of us in line assumed he was merely running late (on the order of an hour or so), but after he swept by with a news crew trailing him, the organizers hastily stuck a “Cancelled” sign on the door.

After waiting all that while only to be blasted with halitosis, I did not ask for an autograph.

There was a great article about him in Esquire a few years back. One close friend described him as “socially autistic.” Another said “He’s almost rude.” He walked away, came back and said “No, he is rude!”

In lieu of autographs, he usually hands out signed business cards that say something like “The bearer of this card has, in fact, met Mr. Steve Martin and found him to be witty, urbane and delightful.”

I like him anyway. I just don’t have any firm plans to meet him.

Another minor tale compared to others (and admittedly, not involving me directly):

I was at the St. Louis airport in 1987 and saw Willie McGee talking to two skycaps about a blonde woman. McGee had been named as an alternate to the All-Star game and was presumably flying out of town for that. I eavsdropped and heard him go into detail for a good two mintues about her body, etc. I saw a young boy wearing a Cardinals cap approach very bashfully with a pen and piece of paper. When the kid asked politely for an autograph, McGee ignored him at first. The kid asked again and McGee turned, said “No” and then decided it was time to find his departure gate.

When I was a kid, I did meet some pro athletes (at stadiums, card shows, or store promotions) and all them were very polite and cordial; especially, Joe Montana (EARLY in his career), Brooks Robinson, Al Kaline, George Kell and Gary Ward. It went the same for comics pros I’ve met too: John Romita, Jr., Jo Duffy, Jill Thompson, Sergio Aragones, Bob Burden, JM DeMatties, etc. John Bryne was in a pissy mood though at a Minneapolis con around 1980 though. Phoenix had just been killed off and fan after fan asked about it. He seemed to relish in glee that I gave him a Captain America comic to sign and not a X-Men one, saying “Finally! Someone’s giving me something current to sign.”

Also, I was a huge fan of the “Batman” show as a kid, and met folks from show at various times and locations. In 1975, I was 8 and met Burt Ward at a five and dime store. He was signing autographs in his costume and playfully chastized a guy in line for wearing a Spider-Man t-shirt and not a Batman or Robin one. (Can you imagine? This kid’s mom probably told him to wear it thinking ALL super-heroes were buddies and knew each other.)

In the early '80s, I saw Ward again, this time with Adam West at a Minneapolis auto show. They came out almost thirty minutes late, and walked to a signing table in their costumes (gasps) from seperate trailers. Both seemed to dislike each other and barely said a word to each other. I had an old trading card with both actors in the Batmobile and Ward signed it over West’s face. (At this point, I hastily decided I wasn’t going to have West sign it too.) I’ve also gotten their autographs years afterward, when they didn’t appear together and they were much more outgoing and pleasant.

(Largely adapted from a similar post in an earlier thread, in case it sounds familiar. :slight_smile: )

I used to sell merchandise for a volunteer-run bluegrass, folk, and Americana concert series in Lexington, KY. (The Troubadour series, for the locals.)

In addition to sales tax, the theatre kept 20% of the total take from merchandise. This was a source of conflict at nearly every show, as road managers and such would bitch endlessly about this highway robbery. (The guy who ran the series, a touring musician himself, told me that this was actually a pretty standard deal, and that people always bitched about it–it was part of the game. I don’t really believe him.) This led to several memorable encounters, including two that stand out.

The first (which I’ve recounted before) was at a double bill with Ralph Stanley and the Del McCoury Band. Ralph not only brings more merch than anyone short of possibly Riders in the Sky, he and his whole band sit at the table and sell it. They were set up long before I arrived, 2 1/2 hours before showtime, and seemed to be doing fine on their own. I just went and introduced myself to Ralph, said it was an honor, blah blah, and that if he needed anything, to let me know.

“Just between you and me,” the Yoda of bluegrass music himself said, “this 20% business is a bunch of bullshit.”

Not much I can do about it, I said, and left him alone, returning to help Del’s wife (a lovely bluegrass matriarch who sells merchandise for them on their tour and who I got to know pretty well).

Ralph’s set was first, and frankly, it blew dead bears, though his haunting a capella “O Death” nearly redeemed it. (The “O Brother” soundtrack was out, but hadn’t picked up much steam yet.) They all returned to their merchandise table during the set break, while I helped Mrs. McCoury. I went in to watch Del’s set (and there are few bands I’d rather hear live, BTW), and came out in the middle to check on things…

…only to find Ralph’s tables cleaned off and everybody gone. Michael, the head of the series, was running toward me. “They left!” he said. “They got on the bus and left!” Yes, the bastards stiffed us. They never paid up.

The other encounter was with Leon Redbone, who tours completely solo in a station wagon and does all the business himself. After the show, when we were settling up backstage, he said, “Step into my office,” and walked into the bathroom. (His voice really does sound like that all the time, which makes this 10x funnier.) “Now, nobody told me anything about sales tax,” he said.

I defended the policy like I had learned to do, but at the same time, I realized that I was arguing about money with Leon Redbone in a bathroom. More surreal than unpleasant, really.

There was plenty of backstage drama that I missed, working mostly front-of-house. Rickie Lee Jones was apparently a total bitch. Vonda Shepard was nice herself, but had hired someone to be a bitch for her. (I wasn’t even sure why we got her; all the volunteers spent the whole show in the lobby watching me do card tricks while the soccer moms shook their booties inside.) Gillian Welch threw a bit of a diva fit once, which was disappointing at the time because we were all slobbering fans of hers; it turned out that there were legitimate frustrations beforehand and apologies afterwards, and that it was completely out of character for her.

Good encounters? The aforementioned Del McCoury Band is one of the nicest groups of people you’ll ever meet. Bruce Hornsby, Alison Krauss and Union Station, and the Cowboy Junkies were all joys to work with. Steve Earle was very nice and engaging. I expected Suzanne Vega to be rude or standoffish, but she was very friendly and pleasant–she was apparently blown away by how great our audience was.

A roommate of mine in college used to have a George Wendt story. He was in a bar in Chicago when George came in and sat a stool down. Trying to think of something better to say than “Hey, you’re George Wendt!”, he remembered a week or so ago seeing George on Letterman saying what a big fan he was of music group The Replacements which said friend also enjoyed. There’s live music in the bar, so friend turns to him and says “Not bad, but they’re no Replacements, huh?” George apparently just gave him a stoney ten second stare before turning back to his beer in silence.

The correct thing, of course, would have been to shout “Norm!”.

A geology professor friend of mine (who happens to love theater) took several of her students on a college study abroad trip to London and while there attended several plays with her students. One was a production of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof with Ned Beatty as Big Daddy and Brendan Fraser as Brick. Fraser was big at the time due to The Mummy movies and an Oscar nod for Gods & Monsters and she knew seeing him was impossible, but she thought she had a chance with Beatty because her mother had gone to school with him in Kentucky. After the show she and about three of her students stood around the dressing room doors and when Beatty came out she gushed, asked for his autograph and he brusquely pushed past her saying “Don’t have time”. When she called out “My mother is Betty Lou Whatever and she went to school with you back in Kentucky!” he replied “That so? So did a lot of other people”, got into a cab and rode off. She was furious.

They stood around the alley for a while with her embarassedly apologizing to her students- “Not all celebrities are like that, sorry” and about this time Brendan Fraser, a much bigger and higher paid star, walked out, smiled and said “Hi”. When several students spoke he said “I’m guessing you’re not London natives” and when they laughed and told him they were all from Georgia except for one, who was Indian born, he looked at her (pretty obvious which one she was), spoke a sentence in Indian that made her smile and respond, and he posed for pictures and autographs. Then he said “I’d love to stay around and chat but I have to be someplace… sorry… enjoy your trip!” and walked off. Professor and students all returned to Milledgeville, GA absolutely in love with him.

Another cool story from the same trip: one of her students (male, pretty identifiably gay) got a really good ticket to some play or other starring Kenneth Branagh while there. A man brushed past him with an “excuse me” and sat next to him and when he looked around he went totally nonverbal, just thinking “Oh my God it’s Kevin Kline!” He refused to act like a hick and didn’t even speak to him so he was astonished when Kline started speaking, asking if he’d seen this play and when learning he was taking in plays while in London as a geology student asked him what else he’d seen. He asked “Have you seen Jerry Springer the Opera?” and when the kid said no he told him “Ah, it’s dreadful. Terrible. I don’t know why I keep going to see it. I’m going tomorrow for the fifth time.”

Well, he thought he’d had his theophany and could go back to M’ville and tell everybody “and he’s even better looking in person!” when after the play Kline casually turned to him and said “I’m going backstage to speak to Ken. Would you like to meet him?” (This is about like asking “I have an extra Lear jet just taking up space on a runway- would you like to borrow it for a weekend trip to Paris? You can stay at my flat on the Champs d’Elysee there and use my credit card…”) He went with him, met Branagh (friendly but abrupt), had his picture made with Kevin Kline and came back home gayer than ever.

Whether this was an asshole thing to do or not depends I suppose on your opinion: I went to hear David Sedaris speak recently and afterwards he signed books. The line was very long and he called out “Please form two lines… if you’re a smoker to the left and if you’re a non-smoker to the right”. The line formed (the smoker line being much shorter) and he said “We have to stand outside in freezing weather at airports, have to wear patches on nine hour flights, we can’t even light up in bars in Manhattan, but by God, smokers are going to get through this line first!” and he signed books and chatted with the smoker line before anybody in the non-smoker line (regardless of how close they’d been to him originally).

I’m sorry to hear it too, but let’s face it- the guy’s best movie roles include The Jerk and “Insolent Waiter.” :wink:

To be fair, this might not have been entirely his fault. I read in Rolling Stone that his OCD causes him to brush his teeth excessively, causing serious damage to his gums (and necessitating surgery). It’s within the realm of possibility that his gums were bloody, causing the stench (I remember when I had cuts in my mouth from having my wisdom teeth out, it certainly didn’t help my breath any).

In partial defense of Martin, I’ve heard mixed things about him. Sometimes he can be cordial while other times he can be rather brusque. I suspect a lot of his stand-offish behavior comes from his openly expressed loathing of “the culture of celebrity.” (A funny example of this comes in his short story “The Paparazzi of Plato” from his Pure Drivel collection.) Thus, he probably doesn’t like it when strange people suddenly approach him on the street seemingly behaving like fame-obsessed lookee-loos. (BTW kezami, I’m not including you in this group.)

A friend of mine encountered Steve Martin once. The friend stammered, “Hey, aren’t you–” and Martin gave him a business card which read, “Congratulations, you have just met Steve Martin” and ran in the opposite direction.

You know, I’m willing to cut Ned Beatty some slack. I’ll bet that for more than thirty years the poor guy has had complete strangers coming up to him on the street and shouting, “Squeal like a pig!”

While there’s very little excuse for a star to be impolite to his or her fans, I’d say Ned Beatty probably has as good an explanation for his rude behavior as anyone in Hollywood…

Two weeks ago, I heard James Watson speak. For a geneticist, this man is about as big as you can get. There aren’t too many geneticists out there who have been portrayed in made-for-TV movies. Now, it wasn’t a bad experience per se, but he did nothing to live down his reputation of being an egomaniac.

I’ll grant him that he didn’t adequately prepare to give a talk to a large scientific audience. He was paid to come to Houston by a business group and he gave short notice to our genome center that he would be available to come by and give a talk. This was opened up to the whole med center and so all of a sudden he was talking to 500+ medical and science professionals. But his talk was directly out of the Double Helix, nearly word for word as I remembered it. He did talk a little about his Cold Spring Harbor projects at the end, so it wasn’t all a canned bio speech.

What really kind of irked me is his description of Rosalind Franklin. It is a complicated story, but the short of it is that he and Crick took her data and interpreted it. She wasn’t put on the Nature paper, and she died well before her time at age 37 in 1958 from cancer and thus was not included on the 1962 Nobel Prize (and there are questions to whether she would have even if she had been alive). But Watson went on the defensive big time, talking about not putting her on the paper “because she was a witch” and remarking how attractive she was but “not that fun to look at” due to her personality. You know, it all may be 100% true. But it was her crystallography data that they used, there has long been allegations of impropriety, and from a man atop the pantheon of living geneticists, you would expect more. Franklin herself never apparently held a grudge. Watson has done everything and had a long, fruitful career. Acknowledging her contribution wouldn’t kill him or diminish from his work. Bashing a key enabler of the biggest discovery of his life, when her story is tragic enough already, left a sour taste in my mouth.