# Let's hope Michael Moore doesn't become a Doper

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 1, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046 "2004-10-01T16:00:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/81 "2004-10-03T22:52:38Z")

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Just out of curiosity, do y’all think there are _any_ conservatives who would “do well” here — specifically, any with whom you disagree significantly on the majority of issues?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/82 "2004-10-03T22:57:04Z")

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Didn’t **RTF** just say that he thought McCain, Cheney, and Rumsfeld could hack it (with a caveat about the latter two’s aggressiveness)?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/83 "2004-10-03T23:02:15Z")

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I don’t think that McCain qualifies as a conservative with whom they disagree substantially on most issues. And caveats? I think that saying people would have to work hard to be merely reasonable is more than a caveat; it is a disqualification. I want to know if there’s someone I described whom they believe could step in and go — without “caveats” — the way they think Kerry and (inexplicably) Edwards could.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/84 "2004-10-03T23:12:09Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Didn’t **RTF** just say that he thought McCain, Cheney, and Rumsfeld could hack it (with a caveat about the latter two’s aggressiveness)?

Other conservatives who I suspect would make good dopers include:  
-Scalia  
-George Will  
-Colin Powell  
-Peggy Noonan  
-Mary Matalin

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/85 "2004-10-04T01:07:54Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Mary Matalin

Nah, she’d just hang out in the Café and yak about her movies. I mean _Children of a Lesser God_ was okay, but her character was such a bitch…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/86 "2004-10-04T01:33:45Z")

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I wouldn’t mind if Rick Santorum showed up, just so I could Pit his ass to Hell and back.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/87 "2004-10-04T03:57:48Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, do y’all think there are _any_ conservatives who would “do well” here — specifically, any with whom you disagree significantly on the majority of issues?

Count me for Barry Goldwater.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/88 "2004-10-04T07:32:57Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Count me for Barry Goldwater.

An excellent choice. But is there one who is alive?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/89 "2004-10-04T13:31:13Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Nah, she’d just hang out in the Café and yak about her movies. I mean _Children of a Lesser God_ was okay, but her character was such a bitch…

😛

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind if Rick Santorum showed up, just so I could Pit his ass to Hell and back.

I’d kinda like that, too. 'Cause then I could go:

> [@Man-on-dog](#):
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> …

😃

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Other conservatives who I suspect would make good dopers include:  
> -Scalia  
> -George Will  
> -Colin Powell  
> -Peggy Noonan  
> -Mary Matalin

Scalia would do well here.  
Will I’ve already made known my thoughts on.  
I think Powell would do well here, but if there’s a question of whether McCain’s a conservative, the same question can be raised for Powell.  
I think Peggy Noonan’s far better at writing inspiring speeches than she is at analytical reasoning. I read _Start the Revolution Without Me_…er, _What I Saw at the Revolution_ cover-to-cover, and I still couldn’t figure out what a nice girl like her was doing in a place like that. Her political choices, as she described them, seemed to be based on appearances more than anything else.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/90 "2004-10-04T17:00:10Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> An excellent choice. But is there one who is alive?

Damn, and I was about to say **Stephen Douglas**. He’d put the “great” back into “Great Debates”. (Not to mention whichever of Webster, Clay, Calhoun and William Jennings Bryan would qualify as conservative by today’s standards.)  
Anyhow, in addition to the 5 I listed above, how about **Trey Parker** and **Matt Stone** , the creators of South Park? They could face off in a deathmatch vs. **Matt Groening** from the left.

I also think **Pat Buchanan** would probably do OK.  
So, is that enough? Do you consider your original slightly snide question (Just out of curiosity, do y’all think there are any conservatives who would “do well” here — specifically, any with whom you disagree significantly on the majority of issues?) to be answered?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-hope-michael-moore-doesnt-become-a-doper/267046/91 "2004-10-04T18:14:08Z")

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Ben Stein would probably do well.

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