# Let's keep sneering at "Bernie bros", it worked so well last time. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524 "2020-02-05T03:08:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/321 "2020-02-12T23:59:25Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > …You get that a bunch of you are basically doing your best to dare non-democrats to not vote, or vote for Trump, right? You’re essentially saying "fuck you, what are you gonna do, vote for Trump? Well you can’t do that because that’s the greater evil! No one is doing that. Many have tried to explain that if you don’t like Trump and what the country is becoming, it is in YOUR own best interest to vote for someone that can beat Trump. Someone that can win even if they are not quite your political ideology. But much closer to it. It’s best to move in the correct direction, unless you have the idea that many Trump supporters do ~ “Burn it all down” Get it? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/322 "2020-02-13T00:01:28Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > No, I didn’t ask you, because I don’t recall you doing in this thread that I would describe as “daring me to vote for Trump” > > You don’t seem to be deliberately alienating in the way Quicksilver or John Stamos are. I can’t speak for anybody else, of course. I certainly don’t think there’s anything bad about supporting Sanders in the primary. There’s nothing bad about wanting him to win. I mean, he’s kind of old, but I’d still vote for him if he won the primary. I’d still vote for him in the primary if the Republican party was like it was sixty years ago and _not_ entirely populated by corrupt treasonous shitbags. However they _are_ all corrupt treasonous shitbags, which means the terrain changes after the primary. This is america, and third party voters can’t win, EVER. Which sucks! The two party system sucks! But it’s what we have and what we have to deal with. So when it comes down to the final vote, you have three choices: 1. Vote for the Dem. 2. Vote for the corrupt treasonous shitbag. 3. Vote for neither, by either not voting for anybody or voting for somebody else. The thing about the third option is that it’s equivalent to casting half a vote for each candidate. And while I’ve been happy with the idea of doing that in the (rather distant) past, we’ve reached the point where even half a vote for treason is too much. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/323 "2020-02-13T00:04:47Z")
Do you notice a difference in tone between what you just posted, and [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22121086&postcount=38)? What difference in effect might they have on their target audience? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/324 "2020-02-13T00:05:16Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > It’s amazing that none of you guys even seem to understand the mindset of a Bernie supporter, because it’s not complex at all, and they’ll tell you what they think. It’s not a cult of personality. Bernie has huge, obvious flaws. But he’s the only guy that’s willing to call out our actual problems and who we can be completely confident would actually sincerely do his best to improve the lives of the average person in this country. They just don’t care. They’ve said as much. It’s the most fulfilling thing that’s ever happened to them politically to be able to say they don’t care what anybody stands for, they don’t care what anyone believes, because the other guy is a bad guy. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/325 "2020-02-13T00:06:26Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > You seem to be misunderstanding me. I’m not threatening to vote for Trump. Under no circumstances would I ever vote for Trump. However, I am baffled as to why a lot of people want to make it as hard as possible to want to be on the same side as them. > > If I say “it’s hard for me, but I’ll vote for Joe Biden even though I’ll make a bad president”, and they say “that’s right you will, you little bitch. Grow your bernie loving ass up and vote like an adult”, you understand that it’s making it harder for me to swallow what is already a bitter pill, right? > > So, while I personally won’t refuse to do it out of spite, there are certainly people who are less politically involved, and closer to not voting at all, or who actually are petulant or spiteful. And this treatment actually will change their votes. > > And for what? What do you get out of this as a strategy? Why is it a good idea to make it as hard as possible for reluctant anti-Trump voters to vote democrat? Why are you assuming that people are doing it because it’s smart? People who voted against Trump in the past and watched Bernie supporters NOT vote against Trump and then watched Trump set fire to the country are bitter, and have reason to be bitter. It’s a bitter pill that Bernie Bros (and republicans, and Putin) have been shoving down their throats for years. So yeah, it’s not surprising that at the slightest _hint_ that the Bernie supporters might go for an encore of their prior performance rationality goes out the window for some people. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/326 "2020-02-13T00:21:10Z")
I see. And the appropriate response to that is to pile on me, rather than the people who are irrationally doing what they can to steer people away from voting for Trump’s opponents? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/327 "2020-02-13T00:22:24Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > They just don’t care. They’ve said as much. It’s the most fulfilling thing that’s ever happened to them politically to be able to say they don’t care what anybody stands for, they don’t care what anyone believes, because the other guy is a bad guy. That’s what you get out of this thread? God help us. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/328 "2020-02-13T00:24:39Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I didn’t ask how you guys would feel. Public forum, snowflake. Possibly you prefer a safe space? Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/329 "2020-02-13T00:40:20Z")
You miss the point, retard. I’m not saying that no one else is entitled to answer that question, I just said ringing in with your opinion is obvious and pointless since I know what the third party answer is. Do you really think I’d go starting pit threads where I gladly take on all comers if I require a “safe space”? It’s pretty obvious that, well, no, maybe not to you. But fine. You can answer the question. Not “what would you think of someone who decided not to vote for the democratic candidate because other people were being shitty to them”, that’s not the question. The question is “if you deliberately tried to alienate a potential democratic voter by pushing them over the edge into not voting for them by being as shitty as possible to them, and that did indeed keep them from voting, how would you feel about that?” Bonus question. If a foreign adversary were trying to sew discord and influence the election by trying to discourage or flip progressive voters who are not happy with the democratic establishment, what tactics would they use? How would what they said differ from the sort of things you’ve said in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/330 "2020-02-13T01:06:17Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > This whole “Bernie as the Messiah” thing is really fucking stupid. People who support Bernie aren’t a cult. They’re not like Trump cultists. They don’t think he’s a God-Emporer. > > All he is is someone that actually represent real leftist ideals, the likes of which we haven’t seen in a presidential run in - I honestly don’t know the last time. There are a lot of people in this country that know we’re a managed democracy, really an oligarchy, and that both parties bow down to the richest among us. > > The reason Bernie stands out is that he has a decades-long history of being completely sincere and fighting for actual progressive/leftist ideals. No one thinks he’s flawless, he’s just literally the only candidate in our lifetimes who is willing to call out the most fundamental problem of our political system: that the rich own almost all of our media and both of our parties and completely control our political discourse. They’ve given us political choices ranging from extreme right whackadoo loot the whole country to the benefit of the rich tomorrow, to moderate right wing let the rich loot the country at a steady and more sustainable pace. > > It’s amazing that none of you guys even seem to understand the mindset of a Bernie supporter, because it’s not complex at all, and they’ll tell you what they think. It’s not a cult of personality. Bernie has huge, obvious flaws. But he’s the only guy that’s willing to call out our actual problems and who we can be completely confident would actually sincerely do his best to improve the lives of the average person in this country. Very well said. Bernie’s major flaw is the idea that everyone should get free college. Not everyone belongs in college. We need something more like the German system in which some people are put early-on into a path leading to trade school. There, I said it. I was a Bernie Bro in 2016 and he even got some of my money. From last October thru 2 days ago I was a Yang Gangster an he got some of my money. I own 2 Yang2020 shirts and a MATH hat. Now I’m a Bernie Bro again and I love the guy dearly. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/331 "2020-02-13T01:13:47Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Public forum, snowflake. Possibly you prefer a safe space? > > Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk For fuck’s sake, you’re an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/332 "2020-02-13T01:23:49Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > What makes you say that? The fact that you and other people seem to be precisely following the instructions in the thread title. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/333 "2020-02-13T01:37:57Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > Very well said. Bernie’s major flaw is the idea that everyone should get free college. Not everyone belongs in college. We need something more like the German system in which some people are put early-on into a path leading to trade school. There, I said it. Something like this yes. Not everyone want’s or needs college. I don’t have a degree, and am making 100g a year. In computers. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/334 "2020-02-13T03:47:25Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The 53% you’re using doesn’t say what you think it says. > > That number is the number of people who will unconditionally, no matter what, vote for the democratic candidate. So, let’s say Bernie wins the democratic primary. The democratic party says “you know what, nope. We’re not gonna let Bernie run. New contest: whoever donates the most money to the DNC is our candidate” > > An extreme scenario, but to say now that you’re voting democratic, 100%, no matter what, means that you would have to vote for the candidate in that scenario. > > What’s the actual percentage of Bernie voters in the primary that didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016? That’s a much more indicative number, and I suspect it’s under 25%, although it’s weirdly hard to find it in a quick google search. That should be easily obtained data. > > So, since I’m not willing to say that I will vote for any democrat no matter what, I’m one of those “Bernie or Bust” voters who will only vote for Bernie, in your view, even though there’s a 98%+ chance I’ll end up voting for the democratic candidate. That’s a brilliant hypothetical that has absolutely no basis in reality or possibility, and is thus rejected as fucking stupid. Feel free to continue your rant about how everyone is picking on you. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/335 "2020-02-13T04:03:48Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > /sigh > > We’re gonna lose again, aren’t we? > > Right now most of the people I know who voted for Hillary are ready to hold their nose and vote for whoever but I think Trump probably picked up more voters than he lost over the last few years. How many voters have Democrats picked up? How many have they lost? How many of these are in swing states? Going full Lord of the Flies is not working so well, is it? Step One, create monster. Step Two, run around like headless chicken in fear of the monster. Step Three, blame Russia, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/336 "2020-02-13T04:28:37Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > People who support Bernie aren’t a cult. They’re not like Trump cultists… > > Bernie stands out is that he has a decades-long history of being completely sincere…he’s just literally the only candidate in our lifetimes who is willing to call out the most fundamental problem of our political system…he’s the only guy that’s willing to call out our actual problems and who we can be completely confident would actually sincerely do his best to improve the lives of the average person in this country. Replace “Bernie” with “Trump” in the second paragraph, and this sounds an awful lot like what fervent Trump supporters believe about their hero - he’s the only one that’s sincere, the only politician who calls out the bad guys, the only one who really cares about the average Joe. It’s to be expected that many young people who haven’t experienced a long dreary succession of politician sell-outs, hypocrisy and sleaze falling for this “(s)he’s the only one who CARES” claptrap. It’s more difficult to understand older voters getting taken in. Naturally, anger gets turned on those who point out that the Emperor isn’t dressed quite as well as you think. Folks also get pissed off when you try to warn them about health quackery, MLM spiels and double-your-money-in-six-months investments. Better get used to the idea that what _every_ Democratic hopeful has a laser focus on is gratifying their ambitions. Standing up for the downtrodden and saving the country - not so much. Still, whoever wins out is going to be a far better bet than Trump. I think. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/337 "2020-02-13T04:43:19Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > That’s a brilliant hypothetical that has absolutely no basis in reality or possibility, and is thus rejected as fucking stupid. > > Feel free to continue your rant about how everyone is picking on you. Irrelevant. You’re saying that only 53% of people are sure who they’re going to vote for no matter what on election day. I’m saying that doesn’t mean 47% of the voters are going to stay home or vote for Trump, it just means people aren’t willing to commit their vote now and stick to it regardless of what happens, which is perfectly reasonable. There’s a 99% chance I will vote for whoever the democratic candidate was, but I’m part of that 47% that you’re just assuming won’t do it, simply because I’m not willing to say that absolutely no matter what goes on from here on out, there’s nothing that could posisbly change my voting inclination. > [@Jackmannii](#): > > Replace “Bernie” with “Trump” in the second paragraph, and this sounds an awful lot like what fervent Trump supporters believe about their hero - he’s the only one that’s sincere, the only politician who calls out the bad guys, the only one who really cares about the average Joe. > > It’s to be expected that many young people who haven’t experienced a long dreary succession of politician sell-outs, hypocrisy and sleaze falling for this “(s)he’s the only one who CARES” claptrap. It’s more difficult to understand older voters getting taken in. Oh give me a fucking break, this is so stupid. There is no reason to believe that Trump would ever be an advocate for the average person. He’s a psuedo-billionaire obsessed with appearances and celebrity. He spent his entire life stiffing and otherwise screwing over working class people. He’s obviously a pathological liar. It’s obvious to anyone by observing Trump’s life what his presidency would be like. Just because he has cultists who believe anything he says doesn’t mean that anyone who believes in anyone is the same thing. Bernie has walked the walk his entire life. Remember that picture I posted of him hosting a gay pride parade in the town he was mayor of in 1986? That’s a guy that’s putting principle above all else. The town council tried to get him fired for that. He’s been proposing legislation and talking about the same agenda he’s talking about today for decades now. I don’t believe in Bernie’s sincerity because he told me to, or because he somehow charmed me with being everyone’s racist uncle or whatever the fuck Trump did to create his cult. I believe in it because he has lived what he says for his whole life and the record is there. Trying to call me a cult-like Bernie supporter is so fucking stupid because I don’t even like the guy all that much. I don’t think he’s a great speaker. I don’t think he’s an amazing policy wonk that has everything figured out. I just think that he’s a guy who has proved himself to be sincerely behind his message, and he genuinely wants to move this country closer to the rest of the world who are all happier than us. He’s willing to speak about what the real battle is in this country underneath all else when no one else is, and I think he’s as close to uncorruptable as anyone I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. I’m not under his spell, he’s just one of two candidates who aren’t under the thumb of the people who run this country, and of the two, I think he’s the least likely to allow that to change. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/338 "2020-02-13T05:12:45Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > You said in your previous post that it won’t matter too much to you who is control. Good job, health insurance, education and so forth. Same here. Except I give a shit about others, and the future of this country and the planet. > > As a voter, that does not make you less responsible to try to make this country the best it can be. AND try to keep it from CONTINUING to slide into a dictatorship run by a moron. Well, he is a figure head when it comes down to it. > > I’m not particularly a fan of Bernie, and wasn’t of Hillary. When the other option is to keep a treasonous shit stain that doesn’t care about anyone but himself in office, the choice is clear. > > Vote for whomever can beat him. I think you have misunderstood me. Of course I care about others. I am doing fine so I want to vote for candidates who will do the most for people who need the most. And help the US compete with China over the next 40 years, which IMHO will be aided by More immigration, not less, which makes Trump a nonstarter for another reason if anyone needs it. I was trying to share my perspective to help others see why some of us don’t care which Dem wins, while others may be turned off by, say, an overtly bank-friendly Hillary. Me, the recession was no big deal, I had pretty much wiped out a little before it and if anything it was a killer investment opportunity. Obama was president, tens of millions got health insurance, real employment and real economic/production growth followed a strikingly stable and also sober trend. And he was cool, Germany liked us and Russia didn’t, and yeah Obama was compromised like every other person in this crazy world but dammit, he really improved things. But for some people, the recession was the disaster and the bank bailout did not impress. Years went by under Obama and they stayed whacked by the recession, and it just didn’t get better. And then Hillary runs and actually tries to cover up that she is pals with a lot of bankers and the down and out are really turned off. Bernie, meanwhile, offers real solutions. Yeah, at the cost of… Socialism! :eek: :rolleyes: Do you see? I don’t need the help, but I want others to get it. From here, positive national statistics suffice. For others it is: is this platform going to help Me, Soon? ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/339 "2020-02-13T05:33:17Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > > [@SenorBeef](#): > > > > …You get that a bunch of you are basically doing your best to dare non-democrats to not vote, or vote for Trump, right? You’re essentially saying "fuck you, what are you gonna do, vote for Trump? Well you can’t do that because that’s the greater evil! > > No one is doing that. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! _SO_ many fucking people are doing that, both on the SDMB and elsewhere. You just don’t see it. Well, sorry, but that’s on you. Open your fucking eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/340 "2020-02-13T05:35:38Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Public forum, snowflake. Possibly you prefer a safe space? > > Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk Shut your cunt mouth you fucking worm. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524.md?page=18)