# Let's keep sneering at "Bernie bros", it worked so well last time. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524 "2020-02-05T03:08:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/461 "2020-02-15T05:54:07Z")
I think there’s a valid argument in there, but why advocate for bloomberg in all that? Bloomberg’s nomination would look incredibly corrupt since they changed the rules for him to buy his way in. There’s no way bloomberg is the safe “let’s just get someone uncontroversial that people like in there to destory the GOP” candidate. It actually kind of amazes me that the democratic party can’t come up with a “generic likeable white guy” candidate for exactly that sort of plan. Buttigieg comes close, but being gay is a significant problem among, particularly, black and latino democratic voters. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/462 "2020-02-15T06:20:09Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > hey changed the rules for him to buy his way in Really? The DNC let Bloomberg into a couple of debates and he’s tainted _forever_ because why? I mean, I’m not sold on him, nobody is. But if he’s up on the stage too, fine I say. He’ll probably burn out shortly, and if not so what? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/463 "2020-02-15T07:02:43Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > … It actually kind of amazes me that the democratic party can’t come up with a “generic likeable white guy” candidate for exactly that sort of plan. Buttigieg comes close, but being gay is a significant problem among, particularly, black and latino democratic voters. If supporters of the octogenarians can say “Eighty is the new sixty” then let me say “White _gal_ is the new white guy.” _ **Amy Klobuchar for President!** _ I don’t know how “likeable” she is, but it’s got to be impressive that she’s still on the stage with all the culling that’s already occurred. Make it **Klobuchar-Bloomberg** (or more realistically **Bloomberg-Klobuchar** ) to take advantage of Mayor Moneybags’ generosity. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/464 "2020-02-15T07:13:49Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I think there’s a valid argument in there, but why advocate for bloomberg in all that? Bloomberg’s nomination would look incredibly corrupt since they changed the rules for him to buy his way in. There’s no way bloomberg is the safe “let’s just get someone uncontroversial that people like in there to destory the GOP” candidate. > > It actually kind of amazes me that the democratic party can’t come up with a “generic likeable white guy” candidate for exactly that sort of plan. Buttigieg comes close, but being gay is a significant problem among, particularly, black and latino democratic voters. You know what’s funny? If someone perceived to be to the right of whatever is defined the Left had said what you said about blacks and latinos they’ll be called a racist. Heck, if Trump where to say exactly what you said it would be the topic of the daily meltdown. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/465 "2020-02-15T07:33:14Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > IMHO > > If there is any HINT that Sanders disruptive policies will have any sort of recessionary economic effect, he will lose. I don’t think younger people fully understand just how important the value of their retirement funds and college funds is to middle and upper middle class Americans. Nobody’s going to vote for a recession, even a little one. I am not so sure the next recession is wholly subject to votes. We have the economic policies of a recession in a time of economic expansion. Debt is being distributed massively around- federal debt, mortgage debt, student loan debt, credit card debt, car loan debt, corporate bond debt out the wazoo- (I’m not sure [this](https://seekingalpha.com/article/4324261-streets-famous-bear-worries-retail-investors-dont-appreciate-corporate-debt-risk) article makes _perfect_ sense, yet there is a there there, no?) Policy seems intentionally bad or inept. To what end? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/466 "2020-02-15T13:42:52Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > If supporters of the octogenarians can say “Eighty is the new sixty” then let me say “White _gal_ is the new white guy.” _ **Amy Klobuchar for President!** _ I don’t know how “likeable” she is, but it’s got to be impressive that she’s still on the stage with all the culling that’s already occurred. > > Make it **Klobuchar-Bloomberg** (or more realistically **Bloomberg-Klobuchar** ) to take advantage of Mayor Moneybags’ generosity. Quoted in full because I support these messages. I really want to see a Bloomberg vs Trump debate. What, you people don’t use “most entertaining” as a criterion? Shit oh dear, I wish Franken could come in from the wilderness to run, but “richer than Trump pretends to be” will do. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/467 "2020-02-15T15:01:57Z")
#StillVotingForYang is trending on Twitter. Bernie supporters are not trying to welcome these people to join them. Bernie supporters are not trying to positively influence these people by making a case that that their candidate has attractive policy positions. Bernie supporters are roasting the fuck out out these people, calling them names, and threatening them. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/468 "2020-02-15T15:14:51Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > #StillVotingForYang is trending on Twitter. > > Bernie supporters are not trying to welcome these people to join them. Bernie supporters are not trying to positively influence these people by making a case that that their candidate has attractive policy positions. > > Bernie supporters are roasting the fuck out out these people, calling them names, and threatening them. I’ve seen the exact opposite on the various Bernie subreddits – lots of encouragement and welcoming. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/469 "2020-02-15T15:57:10Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > #StillVotingForYang is trending on Twitter. > > Bernie supporters are not trying to welcome these people to join them. Bernie supporters are not trying to positively influence these people by making a case that that their candidate has attractive policy positions. > > Bernie supporters are roasting the fuck out out these people, calling them names, and threatening them. As I read this, literal Chapo Traphouse is on in the background, and they are praising Yang and saying “Come on in, there’s no bad blood.” And that’s Chapo Traphouse. Famously illustrative of the more moderate, palatable brand of Sanders supporters. You must be hearing more influential leftist voices that are more reviled as aggressive, harassing online dirtbags, I guess. I’m sure those exist. Can’t think of any other reason you’d say that! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/470 "2020-02-15T15:58:15Z")
**Lance Turbo** and **iiandyiiii** , until both of you provide cites, well, you know the procedure. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/471 "2020-02-16T14:48:54Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Yes, unless you want Traitor Trump again. > Would ANY of the Dem candidates be WORSE than the Orange Anus? This. Job ONE is to get rid of Trump. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/472 "2020-02-16T14:51:31Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > #StillVotingForYang is trending on Twitter. > > Bernie supporters are not trying to welcome these people to join them. Bernie supporters are not trying to positively influence these people by making a case that that their candidate has attractive policy positions. > > Bernie supporters are roasting the fuck out out these people, calling them names, and threatening them. Again. Just like in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/473 "2020-02-16T16:09:20Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > [Economic] Policy seems intentionally bad or inept. To what end? I’m not sure if you refer to the precarious economic and political trends which have engulfed the developed world. Or just the economic policies of Trump and his band of crooks. Assuming the latter, I don’t think there’s any big mystery. Imagine a junkie jonesing for a fix. The junkie has no interest whatsoever in tomorrow: he’ll happily sell his sister for a 15-minute high today. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/474 "2020-02-16T17:02:20Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’m not sure if you refer to the precarious economic and political trends which have engulfed the developed world. Or just the economic policies of Trump and his band of crooks. > > Assuming the latter, I don’t think there’s any big mystery. Imagine a junkie jonesing for a fix. The junkie has no interest whatsoever in tomorrow: he’ll happily sell his sister for a 15-minute high today. It’s a problem. The economy has been artificially inflated with borrowed money. But that number at the bottom of the retirement account statement is very real to most people. And the idea that a Bernie presidency will cause a market crash and recession is being heavily promoted in conservative and even mainstream circles. > **[Can the Stock Market Survive a Bernie Sanders Nomination?](https://www.ccn.com/can-the-stock-market-survive-a-bernie-sanders-nomination/)** > > Wall Street is just as nervous about Bernie Sanders as mainstream Obama Democrats. Will the Sanders surge trigger a stock market pullback? Besides, 6 out of 10 Americans feel that they are better off than they were 3 years ago. > **[Six in 10 Americans say they feel better off after first 3 years of Trump,...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/13/gallup-poll-says-6-10-americans-feel-better-off-3-years-after-trump/4747228002/)** > > In 2012, 45% of Americans told Gallup they were better off than they were three years ago. In 2004, 1996 and 1992 the number was 50%. This is very important in a totally non-abstract way. Unfortunately, it’s a lot more real to people than concerns about the rule of law or the persecution of civil servants. If you run on platform of radical change to an economy that’s working for most people, you lose. If yo declare “war” on Wall Street when your average middle class investor is thrilled with the growth on their accounts, you will lose. Of course, this Potemkin economy was engineered by the Republicans in order to win this election. They are formidable opponents and the Democrats need to press every advantage they can get. ---
**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/475 "2020-02-16T21:58:47Z")
This thread has been a modest education for me. Of course, I never expected anything in the Pit (or really, the internet generally) to be generous exchange between ladies and gents of good will, but it got kind of spooky in here. I never was moved to put anyone on “ignore” until now - wanted to, but was too lazy to figure out how to do it - but I’ve done so and am liking the look. Here’s my take: Senor Beef is right. Several others are either wrong or missing Beef’s point. But Beef is sadly wrong about one thing - Bernie Sanders will be the nominee, and furthermore has the best chance of anyone so far of taking the prize. My take. Nobody knows anything! The Straight Dope Message Board is moribund, and more so now that Cecil is retired. Nobody’s fault, but time has passed this format by. Only us desperate clingers (old guys like me and I bet most of you) remain. But people will have their say, even if few notice. Best not to let any of it get to you. I’m a Warren supporter, and yes I think she can make a comeback but I expect she won’t - but because NNA (nobody knows anything) I’ll be happily wrong if she does, and yes she will win too. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/476 "2020-02-16T22:16:50Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > #StillVotingForYang is trending on Twitter. > > Bernie supporters are not trying to welcome these people to join them. Bernie supporters are not trying to positively influence these people by making a case that that their candidate has attractive policy positions. > > Bernie supporters are roasting the fuck out out these people, calling them names, and threatening them. Went to the hashtag. Read the first couple hundred comments. Found precisely _one_ pro-Bernie tweet that was a little bit rude about Yang, and it wasn’t that bad. You’re full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/477 "2020-02-16T22:21:18Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > **Lance Turbo** and **iiandyiiii** , until both of you provide cites, well, you know the procedure. Just go to the hashtag and see for yourself. 99.9% of the tweets are about the Yang media blackout and how corrupt the DNC is. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/478 "2020-02-16T22:27:58Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > **Lance Turbo** and **iiandyiiii** , until both of you provide cites, well, you know the procedure. Forgot about this – here is the kind of thing I see on the Bernie subreddit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f4jqa9/former\_yang\_gang\_member\_here\_proud\_to\_say\_that\_im/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f4jqa9/former_yang_gang_member_here_proud_to_say_that_im/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f2wr3i/welcome\_to\_all\_the\_yang\_gang\_here\_because\_bernie/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f2wr3i/welcome_to_all_the_yang_gang_here_because_bernie/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f4d67b/just\_got\_my\_buddy\_from\_the\_yang\_gang\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f4d67b/just_got_my_buddy_from_the_yang_gang_in/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f2xycl/putting\_humanity\_first\_yangberniegang/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f2xycl/putting_humanity_first_yangberniegang/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f2v6w7/bernie\_sanders\_thank\_you\_andrew\_yang\_for\_running/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f2v6w7/bernie_sanders_thank_you_andrew_yang_for_running/) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/479 "2020-02-17T01:30:00Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > Just go to the hashtag and see for yourself. 99.9% of the tweets are about the Yang media blackout and how corrupt the DNC is. How do I " go to the hashtag?" Remember that I’m moribund. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524/480 "2020-02-17T08:49:48Z")
Fucking Christ, the board ate my goddamned reply. Here’s quintessential Berniac: [getting John Lewis confused with Elijah Cummings.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam/comments/f4z6lp/bernie_bro_wants_to_know_why_elijah_cummings_isnt/) Mr. Civil Rights Hero strikes again. Bernie’s Bros booed John Lewis in 2016. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-keep-sneering-at-bernie-bros-it-worked-so-well-last-time/847524.md?page=25)