# Let's make a list of the in-jokes in the new Star Trek! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832 "2009-05-09T05:59:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![bobthebuilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobthebuilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobthebuilder)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/101 "2009-05-19T22:12:02Z")
The reference to Admiral Archers dog may be more direct than just to the series. In the first episode a couple people are talking about how they hope the captain does not use the transporter on them and someone comments that they dont think he would even use it on his dog. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/102 "2009-05-19T23:44:58Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I always assumed that his “it seemed the logical thing to do” comment in TOS meant he had sex with Amanda for some reason (emotional lapse, pon farr, etc) and she ended up pregnant. I never thought of that. Good point. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@Cat\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Jones)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/103 "2009-05-20T13:38:01Z")
IIRC first time round Uhura’s first “inter-racial” kiss was originally to be with Spock until Shanter got wind of it and muscled himself into the limelight and history books. I liked that things got put right this time. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/104 "2009-05-20T15:25:21Z")
I liked Chris Pine’s brief Shatner impression at the very end. Just for a second he does that wierd emphasizing of odd syllabells that Shatner is known for. Also red matter, though that was an Alias in-joke, not a Trek one. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/105 "2009-05-21T04:36:29Z")
Bones shooting Kirk up with goodness knows what every few seconds during the scene where they all go aboard the Enterprise, with Kirk becoming increasingly distressed by the side effects of these injections, not to mention annoyed by McCoy’s needles. _“STOP THAT!”_😛 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/106 "2009-05-21T19:37:16Z")
In-jokes I caught: - The Sherlock Holmes quote about “eliminating the impossible…” In ST:TUC, Spock had said Holmes (or Conan Doyle) was an ancestor of his. - Delta Vega, even though it was in a different part of the Galaxy. - Admiral Archer’s dog. - Kirk’s horndog ways, noticing virtually every young woman he walked past. - Kohlinar, and the giant Vulcan statues, from ST:TNG. - The three young Vulcan bullies, from the far-and-away-the-best episode of ST:TAS, “Yesteryear” (In his later discussion with the young Spock, oh, how I wished that the elder Spock had said he’d go by the name of Selek thereafter!): [Selek | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Selek) - The _Kobayashi Maru_, although Uhura distinctly says “USS” rather than “SS” before the ship’s name. - Nurse Chapel. - Scotty’s “I canna hold her together!” remark as they fought to escape the black hole. I wouldn’t have any problem with making Sulu (like Takei) gay. If they’re going to give screen time to Kirk jumping the bones of an Orion girl in an Academy barracks, or Spock and Uhura locking lips in the Transporter Room, they could easily show Sulu getting out of bed with a guy to run to the Bridge when duty calls. Or even just holding hands with his male pal while on shore leave or in the hallways, whatever. Although I’m not a crusader on the issue, it seems to me appropriate - if not long overdue - for ST to have a major gay character. The earlier link to “James R. Kirk”'s tombstone was busted. Try this: [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/1/12/James\_R\_Kirk\_tombstone.jpg/180px-James\_R\_Kirk\_tombstone.jpg](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/1/12/James_R_Kirk_tombstone.jpg/180px-James_R_Kirk_tombstone.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/107 "2009-05-21T20:08:48Z")
On the scene where they drop from the ship to the drill, it seemed a callout to 2001, with the blue, yellow and red space suits that looked similar to the ones in the movie, plus the way the lights were streaming past the helmet when they closeupped on their faces. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/108 "2009-05-21T23:21:44Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Also red matter, though that was an Alias in-joke, not a Trek one. They should’ve named Spock Prime’s ship the Rimbaldi, 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/109 "2009-05-24T00:09:53Z")
I liked Spock’s little Picard-like tug at his tunic when he gets up. The other references I’ve seen have mostly been called out. Incidentally, a number are listed on the IMDb page: > **[Star Trek (2009) - Trivia - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/trivia/)** > > Star Trek (2009) - Trivia on IMDb: Cameos, Mistakes, Spoilers and more... Regarding Spock’s quoting the Sherlock Holmes line in both this movie and Star Trek VI, you should know that: ``` 1.) Star Trek VI was co-written and directed by **Nicholas Meyer** , who wrote the Sherlock Holmes pastiches **The Seven Per Cent Solution** , **The West End Horror** , and **The Canary Trainer*** 2.) Leonard Nimoy played Sherlock Holmes on stage (I think in the William Gillette/Arthur Conan Doyle play **Sherlock Holmes** ) 3.) various people (Meyer and Nimoy among them, IIRC) have toyed with the idea of Holmes being one of Spock's ancestors ``` - and is also responsible for the movie of The Seven Per Cent Solution. And a Holmes parody that appeared in The New York Times Sunday Magazine. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/110 "2009-05-24T02:30:15Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I liked Spock’s little Picard-like tug at his tunic when he gets up. Mrs. PLant points out that Nimoy did it in TOS, Next Generation breath. :rolleyes: > [@CalMeacham](#): > > ``` > various people (Meyer and Nimoy among them, IIRC) have toyed with the idea of Holmes being one of Spock's ancestors > > ``` But dammit, Sherlock Holmes _isn’t real!_ ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/111 "2009-05-24T12:05:16Z")
Oh, and you probably also have a problem with Spock’s mother, Amanda Grayson, being descended from Richard Grayson, the famous police commissioner and later mayor of Gotham City in the mid-2000s? (Did you know that as a young boy he was part of a family circus trapeze act?) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/112 "2009-05-24T14:10:46Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > In-jokes I caught: > > - The Sherlock Holmes quote about “eliminating the impossible…” In ST:TUC, Spock had said Holmes (or Conan Doyle) was an ancestor of his. From the second I heard that line I assumed Amanda Grayson - and therefore Spock - was a descendant of Conan Doyle. It never occured to me that Spock meant Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock Holmes didn’t say that famous line, because Sherlock Holmes isn’t real. > [@](#): > > - Kohlinar, and the giant Vulcan statues, from ST:TNG. TMP. And that’s not an in-joke, that’s just continuity. The way having Starfleet HQ in San Francisco is continuity, and the way building the Enterprise on the hardscrabble Iowa soil is not. > [@](#): > > - Nurse Chapel. Was she in there somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/113 "2009-05-24T16:28:35Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > TMP. And that’s not an in-joke, that’s just continuity. The way having Starfleet HQ in San Francisco is continuity, and the way building the Enterprise on the hardscrabble Iowa soil is not. Speaking of the hardscrabble Iowa soil… where _is_ the giant chasm in Iowa located, in case I wanted to visit there instead of the Grand Canyon? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/114 "2009-05-24T16:54:51Z")
Hey, here’s a thought. Didn’t some baddies cut a trench down the continental US in Enterprise? Maybe that’s where Young James put his stepdad’s car. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/115 "2009-05-24T17:11:08Z")
Not unless Iowa annexed Florida at some point afterward. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/116 "2009-05-24T17:11:51Z")
That was Florida. And given the elevation of most of Florida, that’s probably now the Xindi Memorial Seaway. ---
**Author:** ![Doom\_Slinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Doom\_Slinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doom_Slinger)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/117 "2009-06-07T00:04:08Z")
Not a Star Trek in-joke but rather a J.J. Abrams in-joke – if I heard correctly, the last drink that Uhura ordered in the bar was a “Slusho” something-or-other. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/118 "2009-06-07T03:46:14Z")
I’m not sure if it was intended as an in-joke or was merely a coincidence, but the 2nd time I saw the movie in the theater something hit me. Young Kirk wasn’t listening to Sabotage on his joyride. He doesn’t listen to Sabotage. He listens to Sabotaaaje. ---
**Author:** ![Casserole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b77776/32.png) [@Casserole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casserole)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/119 "2009-06-07T15:47:15Z")
> [@Doom\_Slinger](#): > > Not a Star Trek in-joke but rather a J.J. Abrams in-joke – if I heard correctly, the last drink that Uhura ordered in the bar was a “Slusho” something-or-other. Thought it was a Bud… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832/120 "2009-06-07T16:06:24Z")
[Slusho](http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Slusho). She also ordered a [Budweiser Classic](http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Budweiser_Classic). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-a-list-of-the-in-jokes-in-the-new-star-trek/495832.md?page=7)