# Let's Occupy Wall Street -- with guns! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 22, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704 "2014-04-22T18:30:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/21 "2014-04-22T22:43:59Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I’ve got an idea! Since Cliven Bundy’s backers have proven it is kosher to come armed to a public political demonstration, let’s Occupy Wall Street again – but this time, let’s bring guns! 🙂 Yeah, sure! Why not? Knock yourselves out, and have fun with that. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/22 "2014-04-22T23:43:36Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > What’s Wall Street got to do with this? Pretty much everything always. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/23 "2014-04-22T23:45:22Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Which led to revolt in the NRA to stop the rural, white Republicans from ever doing that again. I know [that story](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Lobbying), but never before heard it had anything to do with the Panthers or reaction to them. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/24 "2014-04-23T00:17:29Z")
The organisers of Burning Man are [way ahead of you](http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/come-celebrate-bundy-fest-2014). Allegedly. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/25 "2014-04-23T00:32:07Z")
Guns are too…in. When did throwing black cartoon bombs go out of style? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/26 "2014-04-23T01:01:34Z")
[David Horsey.](http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-cliven-bundys-militiamen-20140421,0,1467054.story#axzz2zfP0E2S5) ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/27 "2014-04-23T01:01:50Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I’ve got an idea! Since Cliven Bundy’s backers have proven it is kosher to come armed to a public political demonstration, let’s Occupy Wall Street again – but this time, let’s bring guns! 🙂 > > What could go wrong?! > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Me? I don’t even have a way to get to NYC for more than a weekend. But I’ll be with you in spirit! > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [shrug] They can take up a collection to buy some. Hahahaha. Looks like you’re trolling for suckers to storm Wall Street (and maybe get shot up while doing it) while you hide far, far away from any danger. You said, “let’s (_let us_) bring guns!” Maybe you meant to say, “Somebody else should bring guns while you watch?”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/28 "2014-04-23T01:07:46Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Guns are too…in. When did throwing black cartoon bombs go out of style? 1. Mitchell Palmer didn’t get the ironic intent. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/29 "2014-04-23T01:11:06Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. Looks like you’re trolling for suckers to storm Wall Street (and maybe get shot up while doing it) while you hide far, far away from any danger. > > You said, “let’s (_let us_) bring guns!” Maybe you meant to say, “Somebody else should bring guns while you watch?”. I think maybe BG intended the OP to be somewhat rhetorical and amusing. Just maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/30 "2014-04-23T01:12:43Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I know [that story](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Lobbying), but never before heard it had anything to do with the Panthers or reaction to them. > **[Outmanned and Outgunned: Gun Control in Black History](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/01/10/935222/-Outmanned-and-Outgunned-Gun-Control-in-Black-History#)** > > This in an old (from 2008) discussion of gun control during the course of African American history. I thought it might be of interest given the recent gun troubles. Cross posted from ... > [@](#): > > 1960s-1970s In Oakland, Huey Newton and Bobby Seale form the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. Among other things, the Panthers advocate the use of guns as a means of protection against police brutality. In May 1967, 30 party members stage an armed protest in the California state Capitol against a restrictive gun control bill, carrying loaded shotguns and rifles into the Capitol building. > > The gun control bill is eventually signed into law. In his article titled Don’t Blame Liberals for Gun Control, Richard Poe writes > > It was Governor Ronald Reagan of California who signed the Mulford Act in 1967, “prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one’s person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street.” The law was aimed at stopping the Black Panthers, but affected all gun owners. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/31 "2014-04-23T01:50:42Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I’ve got an idea! Since Cliven Bundy’s backers have proven it is kosher to come armed to a public political demonstration, let’s Occupy Wall Street again – but this time, let’s bring guns! 🙂 > > What could go wrong?! What could go wrong! If the GPS coordinates are wrong on the ATF computers for your residence … your neighbor and all of his children could suffer a terrible tragedy of being followed, bugged and tagged as a danger to our society. Do you really want this to happen? Send your correct name and address and a copy of the posting of this thread to the closes field office of the ATF right now. ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/32 "2014-04-23T05:49:02Z")
More on the Panthers and gun control in [this excellent article from The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/?single_page=true). Choice sample, of the “oh-how-things-have-changed” variety: > [@](#): > > Republicans in California eagerly supported increased gun control. Governor Reagan told reporters that afternoon that he saw “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” He called guns a “ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will.” In a later press conference, Reagan said he didn’t “know of any sportsman who leaves his home with a gun to go out into the field to hunt or for target shooting who carries that gun loaded.” The Mulford Act, he said, “would work no hardship on the honest citizen.” ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/33 "2014-04-23T06:11:42Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > You may find that gun laws are slightly different between Nevada and New York. Slightly. Wake up, sheeple! There are Wall Streets in Las Vegas, Reno and (wait for it!). . . Pahrump! Occupy those. ETA: Yes, really. I just found them on Google Maps! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/34 "2014-04-23T06:20:58Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I’ve got an idea! Since Cliven Bundy’s backers have proven it is kosher to come armed to a public political demonstration, let’s Occupy Wall Street again – but this time, let’s bring guns! 🙂 > > What could go wrong?! [Why righties get more all into these kinds of things than lefties.](http://www.trbimg.com/img-53472a41/turbine/la-tot-cartoons-pg-latinos-single-women-young-voters) (Political cartoon by David Horsey, L.A. Times, contrasting Republican vs. Democratic voter bases, but the idea could apply here too.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/35 "2014-04-23T06:22:30Z")
Power flows from the barrel of a gun. Mao Tse Tung The meek shall inherit the earth. Jesus Christ What lesson do we learn from this? Guns will get you what you want. Sit-ins will get you a sore behind. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/36 "2014-04-23T06:29:27Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > The organisers of Burning Man are [way ahead of you](http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/come-celebrate-bundy-fest-2014). Allegedly. Won’t somebody remember to take care for the turtles? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/37 "2014-04-23T13:16:57Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Won’t somebody remember to take care for the turtles? Tortoises. Or Desert Tortoises, to be more specific. According to Sean Shealy - \*Come celebrate TOTAL FREEDOM at BUNDYFEST, just across the road from the Cliven Bundy Ranch, in Bunkerville, Nevada! 240 bands, 24 hours a day, for a SOLID ROCKIN’ MONTH!!! \*NO PERMITS REQUIRED \*CAMP ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE \*FULL NUDITY NOT A PROBLEM \*GAY-FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE _PENIS ERECTION CONTEST: Erect the largest penis in the open desert, win valuable prize! (tbd)_ > **[Come Celebrate Bundy Fest 2014!](https://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/come-celebrate-bundy-fest-2014)** > > Cliven Bundy's anti-government act has inspired a counter-event from one of the guys involved in Burning Man (who are known as burners). Welcome to Bundy Fest! I assume that Shealy doesn’t give a damn about the desert tortoise because there will be penis’s to measure??? It appears that Shealy has issued an invitation to every crook, robber, thief, con man, drug seller, drug user, rapist, and pedophile to come and enjoy the pickings at Bundyfest. What any of this has to do with BLM vs Bundy has yet to be determined. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/38 "2014-04-23T15:36:21Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > The meek shall inherit the earth. Jesus Christ …but very small plots, about six by three. - Robert Heinlein ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/39 "2014-04-23T18:36:49Z")
I would Occupy Wall Street, but I have to work that day. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704/40 "2014-04-23T18:59:43Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > …but very small plots, about six by three. - Robert Heinlein Some take the bible For what it’s worth When it says that the meek Shall inherit the Earth Well, I heard that some sheik Has bought New Jersey last week ‘N you suckers ain’t gettin’ nothin’ -Frank Zappa [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-occupy-wall-street-with-guns/686704.md?page=3)