# Let's pit Dopers who engage in debate with Starving Artist **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389 "2009-10-28T02:33:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/121 "2009-10-28T23:34:45Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Hmmm. Every time I see your name, I assume somebody said something mean about the South\*. I wonder if that says more about me, or you? > > \*You’re not always (or even often) wrong, of course. Oh, I’m as likely to be caught in the heat of a particular thread as anyone else, but I don’t think I have ever, y’know, carried a grudge across threads, or ever beat my head against a wall trying to refute the dearly-held beliefs of some of our more obstinate members. There’s no point. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/122 "2009-10-28T23:41:24Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Come on, Bricksie. You’re whining 'cause he called SA the worst, when there might be a full half dozen worse posters? The pitting wasn’t over whether SA is literally the worst poster on the Dope, because how the smeg would you even measure that? > > It was about the problem that since SA is so awful getting into heated disagreements with him (you can’t really call them arguments since an argument is a connected series of etc) was pointless. > > In that point he was correct. Well the OP did ask the following… > [@lissener](#): > > …Is there another Doper with a more willfully, vigorously defended grasp on ignorance? Is there another Doper who’s put as much energy into participating in discussions here, but worked just as hard refusing to learn anything from any of them? > > Is there a more consistently dishonest Doper? Methinks **“Bricksie”** simply answered the questions. Don’t ask the questions, if you don’t want the answers, I spose. If the correct answers to the questions are simply a series of “Yeah,. you know it.” backslaps.. well that’s an altogether different topic and goes to [Oakminster’s post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11711480&postcount=32) ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/123 "2009-10-28T23:41:31Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > I’d be surprised if he’s a year over 18. He certainly made up his mind at about that age, and has never reconsidered it. So yeah, in a way you’re right: these are the unprocessed thoughts of an ~18yrold. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/124 "2009-10-28T23:46:49Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Apropos of not much, but can we get rid of the “win” post when somebody says something clever? It’s hackneyed. It’s lazy. I know you want to fist bump the guy and say “Good One!”, bur this is text. You could have said things like: > > “fuck Jane Fonda” > > or “I miss Joe McCarthy” > > or “I blame _Laugh In_” > > or “I really want to fuck Jane Fonda” > > or “my God, Jane Fonda was hot. You remember _Barbarella_? Man, I wasn’t even born when that movie was made, but I want a piece of that. Ted Turner got some, why can’t I? I grew up in Atlanta, too. Did she go to AOL with the TimeWarner deal? If so, do you think if I write them a letter will they send me a free sample of that ass?” For the record, I have never wanted to fuck Jane Fonda. Not even when she was hot. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/125 "2009-10-28T23:49:13Z")
All this petty bickering will be moot once the race war starts and you all look to **Starving Artist** to protect and lead you. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/126 "2009-10-28T23:53:14Z")
Why would we look to SA to lead us? Everybody knows the blacks are gonna win the race war. It’s all in “Blackbird”, man, if you’d just bother to listen to the song. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/127 "2009-10-28T23:55:13Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > All this petty bickering will be moot once the race war starts and you all look to **Starving Artist** to protect and lead you. The Nascarians versus Indy’s 500? I’d pay to watch that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/128 "2009-10-28T23:55:30Z")
> [@](#): > > …these are the unprocessed thoughts of an ~18yrold. Nope. His are the concerns and attitudes of a genuine “Get Off My Lawn” conservative. For instance, its been years and years since I heard anyone use the phrase “liberal permissiveness” with a straight face. And if his face is as straight as his verbiage, you could hire him out as an emergency buzz-kill. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/129 "2009-10-28T23:57:10Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Loosely translated: > _Hey, all you cool kids, let’s all pile on that weird kid again, both because we can, and because leading it makes me feel like I’m one of you._ My take exactly. It’s a totally generic nonspecific pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/130 "2009-10-28T23:58:27Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > I really am an evil dead elf. Honest. Sorry, but aren’t you supposed to follow that with [“I’ll Swallow Your Soul!”](http://www.angelofmalevolence.com/audio/swallow.wav)…? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/131 "2009-10-29T00:00:28Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > I really am an evil dead elf. Honest. I already knew that. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/132 "2009-10-29T00:02:39Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Sorry, but aren’t you supposed to follow that with [“I’ll Swallow Your Soul!”](http://www.angelofmalevolence.com/audio/swallow.wav)…? 😃 [We Want Your Soul](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvwK-3cQ6gE) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/133 "2009-10-29T00:05:01Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > All this petty bickering will be moot once the race war starts and you all look to **Starving Artist** to protect and lead you. I’m a racist now? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/134 "2009-10-29T00:09:18Z")
Dude, even if you never had an explicitly racist thought in your life, pining for the time before Civil Rights–even "o"pining that CR activism led to a lessening of social niceties–is implicitly a racist POV. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/135 "2009-10-29T00:09:19Z")
Well, they didn’t _call_ people racists back in the Golden Age of the Fifties. They just sorta did this “Gentlemen’s Agreement” thing. Besides, everybody knew their place. Then the fuckin’ hippies fucked it up. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/136 "2009-10-29T00:10:02Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > …It’s a totally generic nonspecific pitting. Used to be you, didn’t it? Gone are the days, eh, old timer? The old war-horse retired from the lists, and the only name anybody ever calls him is “Daddy”. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/137 "2009-10-29T00:12:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > For the record, I have never wanted to fuck Jane Fonda. Not even when she was hot. Communist. wait, I’m not sure that makes sense. Give me a sec… O.K. Jane Fonda = Communism. I say “Fuck Communism!” You don’t want to fuck Jane Fonda. You do not want to fuck communism. Ergo, you’re a communist. Got it now. Go eat some borscht, you damn pinko. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/138 "2009-10-29T00:20:02Z")
So many posts; so much time! What do you guys want? Should I rebut those that need it post-by-post, or should I just put 'em all in one long, drawn out post with tons of poster quotes responded to in sequence? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/139 "2009-10-29T00:22:26Z")
Just sit there like a good pinata and take it until candy spills out of you or we get bored, whichever comes first. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389/140 "2009-10-29T00:22:32Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > So many posts; so much time! What do you guys want? Should I rebut those that need it post-by-post, or should I just put 'em all in one long, drawn out post with tons of poster quotes responded to in sequence? You really only need to answer just one: Are you now, or have you ever been, a person that wants to fuck Jane Fonda? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-dopers-who-engage-in-debate-with-starving-artist/515389.md?page=8)