# Let's Pit the DEA...one more time. (RO) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 2, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654 "2012-05-02T16:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/161 "2012-05-07T02:21:34Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Could you please go over step by step what happened? I don’t think we got enough of it last time. You would have thought, wouldn’t you? But considering how consistently this rather enormous error gets bandied about, apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/162 "2012-05-07T13:21:56Z")
Upon careful review of the facts, Stoid actually brought the magical safe into the court with her and her ex settled for precisely $2. That’s based entirely on an exegesis of the available information with minimal parsing, not something I just made up after consuming crack and pimping myself out. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/163 "2012-05-07T16:02:33Z")
So wait. Stoid was the one who locked him in the cell? Or was stoid the one who left the meth in there. I’m confused. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/164 "2012-05-07T16:27:49Z")
No, she just keeps meth in a hobo’s bindle, I think. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/165 "2012-05-07T18:53:51Z")
_WAIT WAIT WAIT!_ I think I may have cracked the \*\*Stoid \*\*code… _**defendant only in any respect whatsoever created eight continued**_ Ah. Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/166 "2012-05-07T19:42:38Z")
So, Stoid…let’s get to the bottom of this. Were you just being defient when you packed your bindle full of meth and refused to give water to the Asian kid in lockup? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/167 "2012-05-07T19:59:02Z")
So wait. Where does the paper towel tube to transfer the meth from the bindle to the Asian kid’s ass come into play? ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/168 "2012-05-07T20:32:10Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > So wait. Where does the paper towel tube to transfer the meth from the bindle to the Asian kid’s ass come into play? Now you’re just making things up… ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/169 "2012-05-08T02:58:37Z")
Oh my! Originally, I was angry at the DEA and wasn’t that terribly surprised that this had happened. Then, I got to witness the amazing comedy stylings of **Kimmy Gibbler** with a truly unexpected cameo appearance by **Stoid**! You just can’t make this stuff up, y’all. But, the best line yet was **bdgr** “Now you’re just making things up…” ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/170 "2012-05-08T04:31:58Z")
I, for one, am so grateful that, thanks to the selflessness of the DEA, we got see “the amazing comedy stylings of _Kimmy Gibbler_”. And, _Stoid_, appreciate the guest appearance. ---
**Author:** ![newme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e0b2c6/32.png) [@newme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newme)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/171 "2013-07-30T22:20:31Z")
Update in the Daniel Chong case: **[Student left in DEA cell to get $4 million from US](http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/Student-left-in-DEA-cell-to-get-4-million-from-US-4694815.php)** > [@](#): > > **An attorney for the man who was abandoned in a [Drug Enforcement Administration](http://www.seattlepi.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Fus&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Drug+Enforcement+Administration%22) holding cell for four days without food or water says his client has agreed to settle claims for $4.1 million.** > > **[Daniel Chong](http://www.seattlepi.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Fus&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Daniel+Chong%22)’s attorney, [Eugene Iredale](http://www.seattlepi.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Fus&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Eugene+Iredale%22), said Tuesday that no one has yet been disciplined for the April 2012 incident and no criminal charges will be filed.** ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/172 "2013-07-30T23:49:58Z")
Thanks for the update. I missed this thread the first time around but it was well worth the full reading anyway, up until the whole stoid side-show that went on near the end. Who here is rooting for another 4 pages of \*\*Kimmy \*\*denying the DEA did anything wrong, even after settling for 4.1 million dollars? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/173 "2013-07-31T14:55:59Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Thanks for the update. I missed this thread the first time around but it was well worth the full reading anyway, up until the whole stoid side-show that went on near the end. > > Who here is rooting for another 4 pages of \*\*Kimmy \*\*denying the DEA did anything wrong, even after settling for 4.1 million dollars? So what do you make of: “Daniel Chong’s attorney, Eugene Iredale, said Tuesday that no one has yet been disciplined for the April 2012 incident and no criminal charges will be filed.” I wouldn’t confuse a settlement with an admission of liability. Although, it would be nice to see Congress investigate why the DEA is giving away four million of the taxpayer’s dollars, and yet both internal disclipline and the US Attorney don’t seem to think there’s much here to punish. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/174 "2013-07-31T15:11:37Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > So what do you make of: “Daniel Chong’s attorney, Eugene Iredale, said Tuesday that no one has yet been disciplined for the April 2012 incident and no criminal charges will be filed.” I wouldn’t confuse a settlement with an admission of liability. > > Although, it would be nice to see Congress investigate why the DEA is giving away four million of the taxpayer’s dollars, and yet both internal disclipline and the US Attorney don’t seem to think there’s much here to punish. If _only_ the DEA had access to your superior knowledge about the facts of the case, this would never had gone to court. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/175 "2013-07-31T15:24:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If _only_ the DEA had access to your superior knowledge about the facts of the case, this would never had gone to court. :rolleyes: My guess is that the plaintiff was going to make this about his “bipolar disorder” (read, his unwillingness to conform to laws and regulations) and how, therefore, it was the DEA’s obligation correspondingly to conform their discipline to his mental health limitations. This would then become a battle of the [del]Ph.D.-credentialed mouthpieces[/del] psychological experts. Or on the other hand, you could hand out four million dollars (it’s just government money! and that’s the easiest thing in the world to give away!) and spare yourself the headache. Sure, some people might ask: “If this was a four-million dollar mistake, why aren’t heads rolling? That seems to suggest it’s just go-away money.” But who wants these buzzkills around when you’re handing out free goverment money? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/176 "2013-07-31T15:27:52Z")
I still don’t understand what Kimmy thinks happened. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/177 "2013-07-31T15:44:39Z")
A piss freak enlisted the help of law enforcement to satisfy his perversion, and now we’re all paying for it! ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/178 "2013-07-31T15:57:04Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I still don’t understand what Kimmy thinks happened. People end up in prison, by and large, because they cannot control their impulses and submit to authority. Daniel Chong decided he was going to punish the DEA for arresting him by refusing to leave and throwing a fit (pissing everywhere, superficial gestures of self-harm, all the usual stuff disgruntled inmates do in an effort to make their disgruntlement their jailers’ problem). The DEA, quite properly, ignored this, communicating to Chong that he was not in charge and he could be as dissatisified as he liked, but the DEA was going to do what it was going to do and Chong’s engaging in problem behaviors would only make problems for him and nobody else. In other words, the generic strife that happens when a first-time inmate has to learn that the prisoners submit to the jailers, not the other away around. Happens every day. Alas, we live in a society that is regrettably very credulous of mental health diagnoses (and there is no shortage of bullshit artists who will testify to whatever diagnosis you like), so, rather than go to court over whether Chong really has BPAD or not, they decided just to settle the suit. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/179 "2013-07-31T16:14:00Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Alas, we live in a society that is regrettably very credulous of mental health diagnoses I’m starting to believe yours is genuine though. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654/180 "2013-07-31T16:20:41Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > People end up in prison, by and large, because they cannot control their impulses and submit to authority. So he _was_ arrested? I’m confused about how he’s both there by his own choice and forced to come to terms with being jailed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-the-dea-one-more-time-ro/620654.md?page=10)