# Let's play some TEXAS FOLD EM! -- Beta Test

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 9, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828 "2009-05-09T05:04:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Juggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/juggler/32/3194_2.png) [@Juggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juggler)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/21 "2009-05-09T16:35:35Z")

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I would like to play. Seems fun.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/22 "2009-05-10T00:20:08Z")

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\*\*Current List:

1.Cyberhwk  
2.Covered\_in\_Bees!  
3.MadTheSwine  
4.Juggler\*\*

There we go. Looks like we got our group.

Anyone know how to update the Thread Title?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/23 "2009-05-10T00:38:04Z")

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Does Anyone have any questions?

Just to make timing right, I will wait til 11:59:59 pm Sunday Night before I PM you your card hands.

The folded hand must be sent to me with 24 hours from that time.

11:59:59 pm Monday, I will post the flop.

Rinse Leather Repeat.

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/24 "2009-05-10T00:39:12Z")

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I think you have to ask a mod.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/25 "2009-05-10T01:22:47Z")

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Sweet! I can’t wait to lose terribly in my first SDMB game!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/26 "2009-05-10T02:16:41Z")

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If you need a fifth, count me in. I am pretty good at getting to the bottom of a fifth!

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/27 "2009-05-10T02:39:31Z")

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I wanna play the next game! ::scrutizes this thread intently::

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/28 "2009-05-10T02:52:27Z")

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Hey notfrommensa, Dolores Reborn:

It’s nothing personal. If we can iron out ways to get more than four players, I would be more than happy to.

However, the math of the game, is such, that it takes nearly the entire deck to play a 4 player game.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/29 "2009-05-10T02:57:25Z")

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**TWO QUESTIONS:**

Do we want to have a point or chips system? If so, how, _exactly_ can we work betting? I mean, it’s not like someone can fold out of the game entirely.

Should I disclose (reveal) the Burn cards? \*\* As I have pre dealt (and since put the deck back up) the hands, I only have a few of the cards burned identified.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/30 "2009-05-10T03:00:08Z")

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If we eliminate the First folding round… I.E. see the flop first,

we COULD get a 5th player in.

Instead of 4 x 5 it would be 5 x 4. If you follow me.

What do you all think?

Could we do math with the burn cards for a sixth?

Come to think of it, Are burn cards needed in this game, anyway?

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/31 "2009-05-10T05:58:22Z")

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Can I play?

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/32 "2009-05-10T06:09:37Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> **TWO QUESTIONS:**
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> Do we want to have a point or chips system? If so, how, _exactly_ can we work betting? I mean, it’s not like someone can fold out of the game entirely.
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> Should I disclose (reveal) the Burn cards? \*\* As I have pre dealt (and since put the deck back up) the hands, I only have a few of the cards burned identified.

Right now I think there is no betting. It’s just a competition to see who can choose which cards to keep.

Chips or points have no actual value anyways, as we can’t redeem them for goods or services.

I’m content to have the game start simply and get more complex as it’s run more.

As for more players… why not run two groups simultaneously but independantly of each other?

Two decks, two groups.

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/33 "2009-05-10T07:25:07Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> Right now I think there is no betting. It’s just a competition to see who can choose which cards to keep.

I agree here too. In poker, the strategy is in the betting as your hand never changes. With so many decisions to make and strategy to implement, I don’t think any betting is needed. It just adds an unnecessary complication.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/34 "2009-05-10T13:47:20Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> Hey notfrommensa, Dolores Reborn:
> 
> It’s nothing personal. If we can iron out ways to get more than four players, I would be more than happy to.
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> However, the math of the game, is such, that it takes nearly the entire deck to play a 4 player game.

No problem: For some reason I thought you wanted five players. It must be that I read this after I got to the bottom of the fifth. 😃

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/35 "2009-05-10T15:11:23Z")

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> [@Cyberhwk](#):
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> I agree here too. In poker, the strategy is in the betting as your hand never changes.With so many decisions to make and strategy to implement, I don’t think any betting is needed. It just adds an unnecessary complication.

This assumes betting could fit into the Fold Em mechanic as is, and I frankly never saw how to fit it in my self.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/36 "2009-05-10T17:55:20Z")

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As it stands, there’s no interaction between players.  
(Each player can probably pick the first couple of hands to fold easily, then you just look at the common cards to see what to keep.)

I think it’s well worth having some discarded hands revealed - it adds to the skill, both in deciding what to reveal and what you can learn from it.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/37 "2009-05-10T18:01:37Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> I think it’s well worth having some discarded hands revealed - it adds to the skill, both in deciding what to reveal and what you can learn from it.

Right.

I wondered if commentary between players couldn’t exist somehow.

I like the idea of revealing a card or two.

\*\*\*\* I looked back at my spreadsheet, I have all the cards accounted for, so I can tell you what was _burned_ when. \*\*

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/38 "2009-05-10T22:18:22Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> As it stands, there’s no interaction between players.  
> (Each player can probably pick the first couple of hands to fold easily, then you just look at the common cards to see what to keep.)
> 
> I think it’s well worth having some discarded hands revealed - it adds to the skill, both in deciding what to reveal and what you can learn from it.

Damn man, that’s a really good point I hadn’t thought of.

I still have no suggestions on how/which cards to reveal, if at all.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/39 "2009-05-11T00:58:21Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> I still have no suggestions on how/which cards to reveal, if at all.

I could reveal the burnned cards.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-some-texas-fold-em-beta-test/495828/40 "2009-05-11T02:58:57Z")

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To be clear:

**IN A FUTURE GAME**

What do you guys think of literally not playing with a full deck? That is, I take out a full rank of cards, or perhaps the 2-5 of a random suit.

Would it be possible to add more cards?

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