# Let's play the Control-V game.....again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 20, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815 "2003-09-20T16:32:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/61 "2003-09-22T19:20:01Z")

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Arlogeist GmBH is the premier developer of military grade robotics technology. We own the patents on almost fifty different types of those little robotic arms with the rubber grips on the front. We’ve got a robot assembly line that is run by robots, has a robot foreman with a robot secretary that he’s cheating on his robot wife with and the whole factory is located inside a giant moving robot. We are the masters of robotics. That’s not just boasting either, our legion of robots declared us masters of robotics and bought us mugs that say as much on them. You can imagine my surprise when I read in the Sunday Herald that some shitty operation in Glasgow was primed to sell the military millions of dollars worth of advanced kill droid technology.

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don’t ask.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/62 "2003-09-22T19:22:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Coyotes in the Hood wakimika 0 0 09-22-2003 01:43 PM  
> by wakimika
> 
> ```
> Oh, My Freaking God! (Looong!) 
> 
> ```

Now why did I copy _that_? I woulda thought it woulda been something like:

```auto

ini = new TIniFile( ChangeFileExt( Application->ExeName, ".INI" ) );

```

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/63 "2003-09-22T19:22:55Z")

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[ctrl-v]

[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/3604211/ref%3Dmk\_del\_502521\_24/104-3716830-6257518](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/3604211/ref%3Dmk%5Fdel%5F502521%5F24/104-3716830-6257518)

[/ctrl-v]

I just can’t believe what’s coming out these days for “retro” parents to buy their younguns. I wonder how much I could sell my metal Strawberry Shortcake lunchbox for?

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**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/64 "2003-09-22T19:51:40Z")

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5-HT, I don’t need to ask, I read the SA update today, too!

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**Author:** ![hapaXL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/94ad74/32.png) [@hapaXL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hapaXL)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/65 "2003-09-22T20:02:44Z")

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MANAGED BENEFITIS IS PRIME,  
KAISER SECONDARY, PAY WITH EOB/DENIAL.COBAXC

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/66 "2003-09-22T20:14:26Z")

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Let’s see:

```auto

/*
BEGIN TRANSACTION
UPDATE PS_EXP_REQ_ENT_WL SET OPRID = ' _______' where BUSINESS_UNIT = '_____' and REQ_ID = ' __________'
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
COMMIT TRANSACTION

BEGIN TRANSACTION
UPDATE PS_REQ_HDR SET ROLEUSER = ' _______' where BUSINESS_UNIT = '_____' and REQ_ID = ' __________'
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
COMMIT TRANSACTION

BEGIN TRANSACTION
UPDATE PSWORKLIST SET OPRID = ' _______' where INSTANCEID =2102 and INSTAVAILABLEDTTM > '2003-06-01'
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
COMMIT TRANSACTION
*/

```

The ‘\_\_\_’ is where I deleted company-specific info. Otherwise that’s what I’ve been working on in the hour before I head out for my flight to California.

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**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/67 "2003-09-22T20:37:12Z")

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Attack Womb

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/68 "2003-09-22T20:44:52Z")

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=IF(G32=“Off”, “Off”, IF(E32\>20, “Shoulder”,IF(E32\<13, “Shoulder”,“Super”)))

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**Author:** ![ShotgunZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@ShotgunZen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShotgunZen)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/69 "2003-09-22T20:48:05Z")

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Highlight the correct top work roll identity from the list of available rolls at the bottom of the screen.  
Click the “\>Next roll” button  
That roll should disappear from the list of available rolls, and appear in the Next Rolls window

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Apparently a section of a user manual I was working on.

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/70 "2003-09-23T02:02:35Z")

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[quote]  
Speaking of correcting the list, I note Viper did it on my birthday. (which is the day before Ceej’s) I think he should correct the list further to reflect both of our true ages! (even though we don’t like getting older, 'tis an unavoidable fact of life)

In fact, I propose that he correct the list every time there’s a birthday announcement in the Birthdays section! Or would that be too much work for him? 😉

[http://www.imgmag.net/image/nuttysman/rotflmao.gif](http://www.imgmag.net/image/nuttysman/rotflmao.gif)

[http://home.ww.rr.com/nutty/banana.gif](http://home.ww.rr.com/nutty/banana.gif)

F\_X

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A post I was making to [another message board](http://nutty.proboards7.com) about two hours ago… still on my clipboard!

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**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/71 "2003-09-23T02:36:41Z")

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Pretty girl on every corner. Sunshine turns the sky to gold. Warm, warm, it’s always warm here. And I can’t take the cold.

Well, they’re song lyrics, anyone recognize them?  
-Lil

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**Author:** ![AbbySthrnAccent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@AbbySthrnAccent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AbbySthrnAccent)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/72 "2003-09-23T03:03:40Z")

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He did that even after he got back and I was engaged.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/73 "2003-09-23T03:12:18Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by percypercy \*  
> \*\*Pretty girl on every corner. Sunshine turns the sky to gold. Warm, warm, it’s always warm here. And I can’t take the cold.
> 
> Well, they’re song lyrics, anyone recognize them?  
> -Lil \*\*

[http://www.letssingit.com/christian-kane-pretty-as-a-picture-qwfj7ht.html](http://www.letssingit.com/?%5Burl)]_Pretty As A Picture_ by Christian Kane.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/74 "2003-09-23T03:14:15Z")

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[Crap.](http://www.letssingit.com/?http://www.letssingit.com/christian-kane-pretty-as-a-picture-qwfj7ht.html)

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/75 "2003-09-23T03:16:43Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by CaptBushido \*  
> \*\*5-HT, I don’t need to ask, I read the SA update today, too! \*\*

thank god I’m not the only one.

do you have stairs in your house?

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/76 "2003-09-23T03:19:22Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Alex

Hmm…

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**Author:** ![Black\_Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Black\_Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Black_Lizard)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/77 "2003-09-23T03:49:48Z")

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00:47:26: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:47:26: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3  
00:47:26: OSPF: End of hello processing  
SanJose1#  
00:47:27: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.2, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 0, we use type 2  
SanJose1#  
00:47:11: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:11: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
00:47:16: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:16: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
SanJose2#  
00:47:21: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:21: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2#in acoin nfig  
00:47:26: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:26: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2#config  
Configuring from terminal, memory, or network [terminal]?  
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.  
SanJose2(config)#int  
00:47:31: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:31: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config)#int f/0 0/0  
SanJose2(config-if)#in  
00:47:36: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:36: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-if)#in aip so ospf  
00:47:41: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:41: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-if)#ip ospf a  
SanJose2(config-if)#ip ospf a  
SanJose2(config-if)#ip ospf me  
SanJose2(config-if)#ip ospf message-digest-key  
00:47:46: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:46: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-if)#ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 7  
00:47:51: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:51: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-if)#ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 7 itsasecret  
OSPF: Invalid encrypted password: itsasecret

SanJose2(config-if)#  
00:47:56: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:47:56: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-if)#osp  
00:48:01: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:48:01: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-if)#ospf arouter os  
00:48:06: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:48:06: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-if)#router ospf 1  
SanJose2(config-router)#  
00:48:11: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:48:11: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-router)#area 0  
00:48:16: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:48:16: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-router)#area 0 a  
SanJose2(config-router)#area 0 authentication m  
SanJose2(config-router)#area 0 authentication message-digest  
00:48:21: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.1, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
00:48:21: OSPF: Rcv pkt from 192.168.1.3, FastEthernet0/0 : Mismatch Authentication type. Input packet specified type 2, we use type 0  
SanJose2(config-router)#area 0 authentication message-digest  
SanJose2(config-router)#exit  
SanJose2(config)#exit  
SanJose2#config  
Configuring from terminal, memory, or network [terminal]?  
00:48:25: %SYS-5-CONFIG\_I: Configured from console by console

00:48:26: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.11 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.1  
00:48:26: OSPF: End of hello processing  
00:48:26: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3  
00:48:26: OSPF: End of hello processing  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Rcv DBD from 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0x1FE2 opt 0x42 flag 0x7 len 32 mtu 1500 state INIT  
00:48:27: OSPF: 2 Way Communication to 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0, state 2WAY  
00:48:27: OSPF: Neighbor change Event on interface FastEthernet0/0  
00:48:27: OSPF: DR/BDR election on FastEthernet0/0  
00:48:27: OSPF: Elect BDR 0.0.0.0  
00:48:27: OSPF: Elect DR 192.168.31.33  
00:48:27: OSPF: Elect BDR 192.168.31.22  
00:48:27: OSPF: Elect DR 192.168.31.33  
00:48:27: DR: 192.168.31.33 (Id) BDR: 192.168.31.22 (Id)  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send DBD to 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0x25B1 opt 0x42 flag 0x7 len 32  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Set FastEthernet0/0 flush timer  
00:48:27: OSPF: Remember old DR 192.168.31.22 (id)  
00:48:27: OSPF: NBR Negotiation Done. We are the SLAVE  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send DBD to 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0x1FE2 opt 0x42 flag 0x2 len 112  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Rcv DBD from 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0x2341 opt 0x42 flag 0x7 len 32 mtu 1500 state INIT  
00:48:27: OSPF: 2 Way Communication to 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0, state 2WAY  
00:48:27: OSPF: Neighbor change Event on interface FastEthernet0/0  
00:48:27: OSPF: DR/BDR election on FastEthernet0/0  
00:48:27: OSPF: Elect BDR 192.168.31.22  
00:48:27: OSPF: Elect DR 192.168.31.33  
00:48:27: DR: 192.168.31.33 (Id) BDR: 192.168.31.22 (Id)  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send DBD to 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0xE4 opt 0x42 flag 0x7 len 32  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: First DBD and we are not SLAVE  
00:48:27: OSPF: Rcv DBD from 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0x1FE3 opt 0x42 flag 0x3 len 112 mtu 1500 state EXCHANGE  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send DBD to 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0x1FE3 opt 0x42 flag 0x0 len 32  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Database request to 192.168.31.33  
00:48:27: OSPF: sent LS REQ packet to 192.168.1.3, length 24  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Rcv DBD from 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0xE4 opt 0x42 flag 0x2 len 112 mtu 1500 state EXSTART  
00:48:27: OSPF: NBR Negotiation Done. We are the MASTER  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send DBD to 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0xE5 opt 0x42 flag 0x3 len 112  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Database request to 192.168.31.11  
00:48:27: OSPF: sent LS REQ packet to 192.168.1.1, length 24  
00:48:27: OSPF: Rcv DBD from 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0x1FE4 opt 0x42 flag 0x1 len 32 mtu 1500 state EXCHANGE  
00:48:27: OSPF: Exchange Done with 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send DBD to 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0x1FE4 opt 0x42 flag 0x0 len 32  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Synchronized with 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0, state FULL  
00:48:27: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 192.168.31.33 on FastEthernet0/0 from LOADING to FULL, Loading Done  
00:48:27: OSPF: Rcv DBD from 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0xE5 opt 0x42 flag 0x0 len 32 mtu 1500 state EXCHANGE  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send DBD to 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0xE6 opt 0x42 flag 0x1 len 32  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Rcv DBD from 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0 seq 0xE6 opt 0x42 flag 0x0 len 32 mtu 1500 state EXCHANGE  
00:48:27: OSPF: Exchange Done with 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0  
00:48:27: OSPF: Synchronized with 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0, state FULL  
00:48:27: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 192.168.31.11 on FastEthernet0/0 from LOADING to FULL, Loading Done  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:27: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:29: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:31: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.11 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.1  
00:48:31: OSPF: End of hello processing  
00:48:31: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3  
00:48:31: OSPF: End of hello processing

00:48:32: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:32: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:32: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
a  
00:48:35: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1  
00:48:36: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.11 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.1  
00:48:36: OSPF: Neighbor change Event on interface FastEthernet0/0  
00:48:36: OSPF: DR/BDR election on FastEthernet0/0  
00:48:36: OSPF: Elect BDR 192.168.31.22  
00:48:36: OSPF: Elect DR 192.168.31.33  
00:48:36: DR: 192.168.31.33 (Id) BDR: 192.168.31.22 (Id)  
00:48:36: OSPF: End of hello processing

## Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. SanJose2(config)# 00:48:36: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3 00:48:36: OSPF: Neighbor change Event on interface FastEthernet0/0 00:48:36: OSPF: DR/BDR election on FastEthernet0/0 00:48:36: OSPF: Elect BDR 192.168.31.22 00:48:36: OSPF: Elect DR 192.168.31.33 00:48:36: DR: 192.168.31.33 (Id) BDR: 192.168.31.22 (Id) 00:48:36: OSPF: End of hello processing 00:48:37: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1 SanJose2(config)#exit SanJose2# 00:48:41: %SYS-5-CONFIG\_I: Configured from console by console SanJose2# 00:48:41: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.11 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.1 00:48:41: OSPF: End of hello processing 00:48:41: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3 00:48:41: OSPF: End of hello processing SanJose2# 00:48:42: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1 SanJose2# 00:48:46: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.11 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.1 00:48:46: OSPF: End of hello processing 00:48:46: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3 00:48:46: OSPF: End of hello processing SanJose2# 00:48:47: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1 SanJose2# 00:48:51: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.11 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.1 00:48:51: OSPF: End of hello processing 00:48:51: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3 00:48:51: OSPF: End of hello processing SanJose2# 00:48:52: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1 SanJose2# 00:48:56: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.11 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.1 00:48:56: OSPF: End of hello processing 00:48:56: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3 00:48:56: OSPF: End of hello processing SanJose2# 00:48:57: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1 SanJose2# 00:49:01: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.11 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.1 00:49:01: OSPF: End of hello processing 00:49:01: OSPF: Rcv hello from 192.168.31.33 area 0 from FastEthernet0/0 192.168.1.3 00:49:01: OSPF: End of hello processing SanJose2# 00:49:02: OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1 SanJose2#

Router OSPF debug…

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Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company’s management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI.

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**Author:** ![Fnoonf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f6c823/32.png) [@Fnoonf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fnoonf)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/79 "2003-09-23T05:59:04Z")

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Heraclitus then adds:

People dull their wits with gibberish,  
and cannot use their ears and eyes. (4)

## Throughout human history, cliches, slogans, and catch phrases have substituted for real thought. The management lingo of the present, or the self-help shibboleths of the new age can actually keep us from learning the deepest lessons from our own personal first hand experience.

Read this on a web page somewhere and wanted to share it with someone via MSN, as it was pertinent to a conversation I’d been having a couple of days ago with that person.

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-play-the-control-v-game-again/202815/80 "2003-09-23T06:24:41Z")

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Jenny, Ruth, Lucy, Kate, Hannah, Sarah

From a post I was making to the “sexiness of female names” thread… the names of the Walton sextuplets.

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