# Let's rename France **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 12, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864 "2003-03-12T16:51:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/21 "2003-03-12T18:46:15Z")
“I’ll have a hamburger and a large cheese-eating surrender monkey fries, please…” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![KeithT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@KeithT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KeithT)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/22 "2003-03-12T18:56:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mullinator \* > \*\*I say we rename it “Kinda looks like Wisconsin if you squint.” > > Because after all, nothing is more American than our proud nation’s dairy farmers, God bless 'em. \*\* Hey! I resemble that remark! \*\* F\*\*_c_ Europe! Outer Deutschland Surrender Dorothy Le Republique de Nuclear Powered Everything\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Tacosid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tacosid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tacosid)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/23 "2003-03-12T19:05:14Z")
You know, all in all it makes you appreciate what a military genius Napoleon was. The guy made the French a fighting force. ---
**Author:** ![OxyMoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9a140/32.png) [@OxyMoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OxyMoron)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/24 "2003-03-12T19:10:51Z")
I suggest **GAP** , short for **Germany’s Atlantic Ports**. Alternately, **Französisch Reichskommissariat** might do nicely. ---
**Author:** ![DrLizardo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@DrLizardo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrLizardo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/25 "2003-03-12T19:11:29Z")
East New York? South Britain? ---
**Author:** ![OxyMoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9a140/32.png) [@OxyMoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OxyMoron)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/26 "2003-03-12T19:16:18Z")
Or p’raps **Französisch_e_** … not sure about how to decline German adjectives… ---
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/27 "2003-03-12T19:21:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*Ah, come on. If anything, it’s making fun of some Americans rather than the French.😃 \*\* **So if it were making fun of the French it would be sent to the Pit or Closed, but making fun of “some” Americans is perfectly acceptable?** 😕 ---
**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/28 "2003-03-12T19:22:18Z")
How about “The Country Soon to be Included in Germany” ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/29 "2003-03-12T19:23:02Z")
East Canvey Island. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/30 "2003-03-12T19:33:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crusoe \* > \*\*East Canvey Island. \*\* \ East? **"Where a bottle of wine can cost more than your house"** ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/31 "2003-03-12T20:12:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kniz \* > \*\ ***So if it were making fun of the French it would be sent to the Pit or Closed, but making fun of “some” Americans is perfectly acceptable?** 😕 \*\* Making fun of people who, in an act of jingoism, decide to do things like rename “French Fries” to “Freedom Fries”, is **always** acceptable - regardless of nationality. They just happen to be American in this case. Relax. ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/32 "2003-03-12T20:22:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*Making fun of people who, in an act of jingoism, decide to do things like rename “French Fries” to “Freedom Fries”, is **always** acceptable - regardless of nationality. They just happen to be American in this case. Relax. \*\* [another hijack]Is there a policy on mocking phrenologists?[/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/33 "2003-03-12T20:26:14Z")
Le Vieux-Québec? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/34 "2003-03-12T20:37:01Z")
This is presumably in the same vein as those farmers who are marketing Brussels sprouts as “British sprouts” in an anti-EU protest. Call 'em what you want, guys, but they’re still revolting. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/35 "2003-03-12T21:24:19Z")
I think France should change it’s name to an unpronouncable symbol like Prince did. As far as the house cafeteria changing the name of french fries to freedom fries, what are they 7 years old? Jezum Crow. I mean why freedom. Do deep fried sticks of potato represent freedom or something? I’d be willing to put serious money on the fact that you can find French Fries in every country in the world. What a stupid stupid stupid name. I mean at least change the name to something descriptive like “Spare Tire fries” or “Diet Killing Sticks”. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/36 "2003-03-12T21:29:03Z")
10 to 1 the French McDonalds don’t follow suit. Hell, make it 100. ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/37 "2003-03-13T00:11:35Z")
How about “Fred”? ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/38 "2003-03-13T00:28:55Z")
Heck, you can buy Freedom in a box at the drugstore! I prefer “Frutch.” Those who live there, those snail eaters, are the “Frutchese.” –Nott “War is Hell.” --General William T. Sherman “Go to war, America.” --President George W. Bush ---
**Author:** ![Merseybeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@Merseybeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merseybeat)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/39 "2003-03-13T00:30:49Z")
Do we have the technology to slice France out of Europe? They’re uncomfortably close to us. We could tow them to the South Pole and call them “Franctarctica” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![japatlgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@japatlgt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/japatlgt)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-rename-france/160864/40 "2003-03-13T01:03:26Z")
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